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/w. post in la h. allen: less that l/4 of pop are wasps and earned less than jap, fil, asian-indian, asian paci islander, chinese, italian, polish, korean, german, irish, aleut.
/ historic grudges: cath vs prot. western farmer vs eastern $ men. imms bs brahmins, the valley against the hill, southerns vs yankees. wasps feed on a new eng boiled dinner of self-loathing and smugness. wasps of prep schs, graceful clothes and deep tans of healthy summers. wasp is redundant: most anglo-saxons are prot and all are white. [everyone thinks they want to get to the top. those there wallow in it for atten and as an indulgence]
/talking about class smacks of marxism. [sig? is that one reason it’s unpop?] strange but pop belief that am is classless. wasp implies upper class. lower class wasps are hillbillies, crackers, swamp yankees, white trash, rednecks
/ 20% of ams can’t or won’t responto to requests for their ancestry. wasp means breeding, propriety, grace [under fire], awkward on the dance fl. crypto=brits with their monogams in little yachting flags on the sides of their sta wagons. ivy leagers ashamed of anything over a b-. puritans venting their ids on fox huting; thin -lipped debs with last names for lst names. [whitney, paige, kendal]. modesty, prudence, thrift, entitlement. the official preppy handbook. a glorying in decline. hero/wimps. we
lifestyle ‑ taste ‑ ambition ‑ background
/l.c. who are looked down on by all and who dislike selves.
/ as not self‑ sufficient ‑ parasites
/ patronize
/ refugees
/ victims of selves / soc.
programs that don’t work
/Auletta said re class, inequality in : access to
pol, better lawyers, grad scho. and draft. said need non l.c. poor. said
my piece was overstated.
/blue collar ‑ wk w/ hands /
/moving up and down in Am.
/one knows little of those 2 classes away.
/ be proud of self and parents.
/income, lifestyle
/ cubans ‑ mafia
/immature = outcastes, outlaws.
/guys throw out clothes, tools, food
/the subject ticks people off
/why hasn’t hollywood portrayed l.c.
/lst thing w u.c. is manners?
/pro wrestling, roller derby, / sports?
/ cheap ads bring cheap people – play all the angles,‑all they see is price, ‑ wel. types. disability types bad too ‑ got it all backwards / roller derby on p. 4 & 5 of free to choose
/ the challenge is confronting a l.c. or ghetto type
/ do we go thru phases where we give more atten to blue collars ‑
Tender Mercies? = duval?
/ good fences make good neighs.
/ defensive Javier having just woken up smelly making breakfast
too close to me. also would talk thru his food as if doing me a favor.
also the victim: would tell me my faults and say but it doesn’t matter,
go on… / his hiding pans / his cycle accident, cheating UIB, drinking,
/ his charm must have gotten him thru some things./ Javier’s I give you my word=crap
/ free to choose ‑ l2l‑2
/ kids on property taking fruit off tree.
/ hearing em tear around corner when entertaining
/ I can’t use big words here
/ react, not think
/ b.s. for control
/ u.c. uses self‑ deprecation
/do some m.c. and u.c. have it too easy and never develope so to speak? (good arguement for what I’ve been thru)
/labor not as far sighted as mang.
/ 2 on a bike?
/ upper thinner; lower heavier said u.c.l.a. prof on tv.
/vested interets
/3 generation in back at social? and no brains , kids screaming head
off.
/beer crowd: loud and profane in front of kids, stereo on car and
peel out later. ‑ baseball crowd ‑ some with lot of hair , macho
/ cream rises to the top = prejudiced?
/ Bloomingdales vs alexanders
/ crowding you physically, verbally
/ e. l.a.: limited, inarticulate, poorly made up, proud of their olympic champ boxer /
/stupid to take their kids thru skidrow
/taking kids in stollers to org. st. fair.
/ far more prone to react w/o thinking ‑espec in front of others.
/neighs that don’t understand you have to crap on you ‑more zenophebia here?
/all equal in alc? drugs, crime?
/ guy here who spent $ everytime he had it – the gay pipsqueak? dale?
/ghettos kids at palisades park ‑ couldn’t get em to stay nr car till
orged, blew all real fast, and sad and trying to borrow $ rest of night.
/ghetto kids at lunch right off; m.c. kids saved
theirs.
/run down Santiago park
/tim? drove on borrowed time, abandoned car with no insur or reg? knew starter was going out. waited til noon next day to try it / also gambles at track. didn’t wax it. mo of tv when hurt arm.
/classes seek own level
/ drop bottles out of cars, litter
/ refrig tied to tree
/ have to be coy in calling fuzz
/dumb way of making the duckbill up baseball cap go up
/ you are what you are?
/ not pretentous
/not discriminant
/ splashing and drenching pedestrians
/ telesearch
/w.c. got to be overbearing and impolite in their discussions ‑ uninformed and untrained. ‑ weak
/ fingers in ears at maslaneks, / yelling , interruption contest ‑ free for all / some you have to sit on, gag, and drug, to have a calm , intelligent conversation
/the trades don’t think ahead ‑jerry and not ordering enuff plaster?
/ghettos cars ‑ abused, run into ground till dead and then left there.
/ have to hit sign on hazard on way hm.
/ wouldn’t eat with most the guys here
/ missing the subtleties
/ inadvertently crude and over bearing ‑ v.s. eur.
/ dad said funny how sloppy places attract sloppy help
/ also obese aides at m.c. sch.
/ drop h’s ‑ lazy
/maslanek‑ain’t
/don’t read between lines
/ greasy food ‑ Joe & ed
/guy I bot car from – paul on riata – italian last name. also parts car guy.
/ as fascinating as it is disgusting ?
any correlation with speed ‑ racing? doubtful
/correlation with longish hair?
/ gentleness is weakness
/ calling cops is being snitch?
/to get over , vantage‑take,
/italian shoe repairman who wouldn’t go to opera
/ depressing choc area of s.a. ‑misshaped, spent people. life is
cheaper there and in pecos
/ living with regs in c.g.
/ beatles said one reason they made it, they didn’t try to be anything but what they were ‑ working class
/you have to confront them.
/ that guy who worked here ‑had been in ceta and job corps
/ a blue collar said the gov makes classes. /
the honeymooners
/tight clothes, tatoos,
/castro must have lot of l.c.
/ lot of rh, promises, excuses,
/Jo underconfident when job hunting at color tile, etc.;
l.c. matures physically earlier ?
/ egalitarians totally ignore i.Q.
/ rocky = lower working class.
/ guady lo rider weddings and cars
/ companions not friends ‑ hutch and drinkers
/ mark lichtenburger
/vincent & marge
/ m.c. holds ea other more to their word.
/ they wrote the book and how to waste time and $.
/ is the w.c. lazy by m.c. standards.
/ the psych problems of l.c. are just like mh field ‑ simple immaturity.
/Jon elec razor, rm, car, hosp.,
/ slam doors, born in barn ‑ blow horns in d.c.
/ do highers have more status.
/ limited b & c operators.
/all the vices worst for l.c.
/ hope here ‑ no snobbery.
/saving util & tel. ‑keeping cold in hse.
/i.q. ‑ tom sowden
/ how to tell if an adolescent is l.c.
/ small minded roomers criticizing me‑weak.
/ can’t moralize as it’s abstract
/ never trim their trees or shrubery
/ pick fruit ‑ kids do and are noisy
/ roomers here who were grabbed by the previews of some flic./
/cop who had rototiller and never used it on lumpy yard.
/ An immature worker must be worth l/2 a reg. one.
/ better the class the neater?
/ teen too dumb to move on w/ barking dogs. Paul Sedotti didn’t
wash up ‑
/dumb dogs and dumb owners
/ neighs don’t complain
/ elliot richardson/
/be what you are ‑ go where your comfortable
/ lo life in the courthse paying tickets.
/ even the Hensleys built that skatebd
/ teen talking so loud at 4 am sat night, they woke me up.
/ always proving something.
/ jon‑kept taking tv guide, getting legal notices /
Graziano/ elvis.
Happiness ‑ wayne’s family.
/expansiveness ‑no of interets
/ porn
/ who raises kids best ‑ none
/ricardo mantlebaum /
more sexually explicit
/less pretense, quicker into the sack, more catcalls
/ ex who takes em for 50 mile drives.
/ arguing at dinner
/our misconstued sense must be partly due it’s being hereditary in eng.
/ some criminal said thank god they caught me. thus they know they’re crap.
/ myth that classes compete.
/You read of poor kids hearing their kids have sex in next room, but no lo life I was ever with, even remotely considered this.
/ title ‑ what soc. class means to you ‑for a consv. mag.? or gear to consumer.
entertainment figures
Cosby, Benson , Jefferson, Gene Kelly, JGK, HHH, Ike, Nixon, J. Carson, Mirv, Dinah Shore, Doris Day, James Kahn, Jimmy Swaggert, Falwell, Gary Collins, Donahue, Suskind, Greg peck, Letterman, Jim Stewart, Bogart, 007, Widmark, Bev. Sills, Julie Andrews, Ingrid Bergman, Shelly Winters, Springsteen, Gale, Hudson, Cagney, Leslie Howard, Haviland, Vincent price, Dick Van Patten, Dustin Hoffman, S. Loren, Lollabrigida, Jane Seymore, Cris Reeves, Lucille Ball, Bob hope, Skelton, Chas Chaplin, hugh downs vs geraldo rivera Fred Astaire, Hugh Hefner
/humaness means you’ll have friends of all classes‑ true of the best adjusted people ‑ phil
/ Hy said jo got $350/2wks on UIB/ Joe‑‑ not a line in his face.
/ jon: never washed car / car always breaking down / clutz lifestyle. I helped him wax it, he stood back and watched, and got too close when waxing, and left lid of was can
/ the jumpers on game shows
/ the flasher/ the child molester
/ play with self, spit, crack knuckles,
/ wavelength, tastes, values,
/ said classifying people dehumanizes them ‑not treating them as individuals
/shirley jenson and son laughed at porno tape
/ ozzie and harriet 52‑65
/ mike wallace
/ being around those not your type affects you? = better,worse?
-/do Am.s love it in the brits cause we don’t have it.
our obsessive egalitarianism
/ woman w/ kid in shopping cart walking with friend down middle of the only traffic lane on l3th
/ quiet entertainment like getting a tan vs being blasted out
/ lst be happy
/ dogs loose w/o tags ‑ get hit
/ coll. grads ‑ you know the type
/ ben franklin seemed to be explaining it.
Jon bot car when couldn’t pay hosp. bill. reads nat. enguirer which didn’t seem that bad.
/ diff terms. soph= kennedy’s
loner=weirdo, / profanity, logic, rh, lack of pretense.
the need to go thru my rules
/say don;t smoke but do and that will smoke outside but don’t
/ teens warned kids I had called cops on em. /
loud canned music/
/have to hit em over head to get their atten. pauline [?], dean
/ hi heels and jeans
/ expensive rings with casual clothes ‑ Pauline?
/ cuban welfar ma thot it was manly of her little boy to run around wild.
/ carny people / ride operators / limited
/ gave jo every benefit of the doubt – over id ed w/ me and w hse./ my comment on maybe leaving his party early did it.
/w.c. more conventional as closer to “bottom”?
/ some prefer nr. destitution ‑ guy who sold car ‑ for fear of resp?
peter principle? /
it’s what you do with what you’ve got ‑ your horizons, vocab, how you
take care of things. ‑ not sure I buy this re w.c.
/ 2 black bros on tv. like carter bros
/ I feel better talking to those on my level.
/ urban cowboy=blu collar
/ lawrence welk = l. w.c.?
/ people say lower class, but don’t mean bums
/ a’s in sch and c’s in life.
/ tobacco rd.
/ use of bad eng at hm ‑ clear sign of lack of int. ‑ espec. when com
pared to immigrants.
/tossed out my personal coffe mug
/ cabbies “where do they get the $?”/
/breaking away//
/ the long hair as sign of inferiority, compensation, pretense or whatever ‑like guy at computor club.
are l.c. criminals when wounded the biggest babies of all?
/ resenting viets
/ rednecks =?
/ working class chic ‑a misnomer,, patronizing as hell ‑ like yuppies at pro wrestling (andy warhol)..a temp. guilt stop? radical chic, clack chic. / strippers
/ Hy’s bum talk ‑ like mafia. why? no self esteem?
/ using plastic fruit bowl to change oil.
/ cursing out front. / terrible pronunciation around here ‑w.c.
/comments to women on the st.
/ John Forsythe , Sir John Gilgud, Alistaire cook
/ when m.c. interviews a w.c. or l.c. and the latter says something, the m.c. believes em, as m.c. has been taught his word is is.
(fix) end of green notebook to l/86.
bum= immature who doen’st hold up end ‑ l.c. = beh = immature who end up
on econ b ottom.
/ u.c. better in manners, etc., but not in worth.
/ class & religion
/ Get off classes; let em be what they are/
/ terms up and low… /
/eastside kids
/ early rocky as lower working class, ‑ semi bum.
/ prestige tied to status, tied to resp of job, worth to working world, to econ, to comm.
/ and rank in mil.
/partnership ‑ea. class needs the other in the legit sense.
/ no need to begrudge
/ l.c. dump on life and all that try to help
/ gov and media never portray em as such ‑like never meeting a poor person./
/ rich live longer than poor 74 bpdf
/ lower birth rate among higher soc‑con grps ‑ perhaps due to kids being more $ for them (due to more $ for ed.) 87 cap & freedom.
/ Maslanek thot rit’s comebacks were class
/ only problem is when peole are made to feel some thing wrong with their class or that they should try to be something they are not.
/cram course in class at CMC Fried lecture: brains, $, poise, some $,
refinement, ambition, subtlety, understatement.
/ greater training = more status.
/ ben franklin: exp. is a dear sch, but a fool will learn in no other, and scarce in that
/media would rather polarize, oversimplify to make a clear cut issue.
‑ pluralism and diversity too dull for them. – not simple
/ class = pluralism
/up not better and working not worse…working is biggest
/ not class conflict and antagonism, but harmoney, complimentary, mututual interdependence ‑ ea needs the other
/ privileged
in dic. of ideas , which also missed l.c.
/ what does religion say ‑ sig/ what do great philosophers say
/giving = oppor along way would mean also oppor to catch up with realiza
tion not likely ‑ thus don’t hold others back
/ all = in realm of character /
/we never have enuff at the top ‑ class reunion
/ only those in Ban’s book dumped on l.c.
/ cap… & class
/ be proud
/ a lot of idiots like to be cute with the subject ‑ how you hold your fork, etc.
/ tie in with mang and labor & employer & employee?
/ l.c. bug em and they’ll hurt you
/l.c. to samenow and tell of carolyn see’s review
/ they move out and you keep getting outstanding? warrents (for their arrest?) in the mail for years. /
Insight ll/9/87: aristocracy has 0 to do wi $; it is ancestry and
kinship and shared long memories.??? Breeding is self‑esteem, self‑
conf, and loyalty, honesty, dig, duty, work, service, patriotism, courage,
guts, and a sense of god and the golden rule.. Only mercy is left out.
Refinement, poise, resp. love ‑greatness of spirit and generosity of
heart, truth. review of Am’s secret aristocracy by stephen birmingham.
not castes
/ soc programs that don’t work
jimmy vs billy carter
/ need class for mang.
/ care less about fixing their teeth
SOCIAL CLASSES….2 original article ‑blk binder #1
Is the U.S. one big middle class as so many academics would like to
think, or are there various classes, and will we become more class
conscious with time as older countries have?
Do classes mean inequality?
After a number of social work jobs, I would say there are defintely
clases. It isn’t a subject people spend much time on, but it is one to
understand socially, and it is important when some politician try to
The most realistic views of the subject I’ve run across …now con
tinue with original
There are even class differences in families. One has only to look around to see one or more people in a family with a lot of difference in ability and goals than others. They should not be made to feel better or worse as long as responsible and mature.
Nelson Aldrich, author of old money; the mythology of am’s u.c.: inherited wealth with inherited resp. the [old?] rich have a
-“curriculum” of bdng schs, certain colleges, clubs,and summer resorts and exp. bdng schs provide concentrated, intense socialization and soc consciousness. you’re taught
-it’s vulgar and antisocial to want anything.
-Old $’s gifts are zip unless … iven in and for the public world. -harvard takes in old $ to have it’s customs rub off on those who aren’t. patrician: jerky diffidence [reserve], rh of serv.
-all want old $ to prove itself [for pres] [evious, yet? demanding more?] old $ seeks to stand on its own feet. [ambivalence: idea that old $ is supposed to be apologetic].
[old is the grace; new, the fire]
-new money is entrepreneurial. thus new and old $ on diff. wave lengths -Dukakis reps new $.
Aldrich’s rel made into an old $ bastion in l gen.
-fastest way to join old $ is to give $ to ints that are part of old $’s patrimoney such as museums and univ. another way is serv to the class – via teachers, horse trainers, gardeners, ….
old $ is wasp as they were here lst. he said the vals and beh that are aristocratic are avail to all. and a bad finish. #
/recruiter who took applicants on 50 mi drive.
/class and hot weather: open dr when come home. don’t open their door or borrow fan. when cooler outside, don’t open window or if window, don’t open curtain for cross vent. same at night which is critical – from both ends – to sleep cooler from house cooling and from window and to cool your room for the next day. this during lows of 70 and high’s in shade of almost l00. also only l shower a day. no foresight. also with sign on dryer and microwave outside, why use the stove inside – so I took knobs off. this was domingo who coughed in refrig. priviledged, immature
/ see lease and rm
/part of next is my hidden agenda
/ discussing things with some roomers – can’t focus, vocab, mispronounce, running jump at concept, – trying to get herm’s accident straight [and didn’t make point to thank me]. some try to make the right sounds like. just takes a lot of time. off subject. they confuse areas – this needs an example. ya know , ya know.
/ soc ladder in sch
tv class=inequality rainwater of harvard. stratified. success has something to do with class. no “reliable” source of income [vs reg]
/ depends on skill, ed, position, speech, dress, wage and salary?,.
assumption that soc. is structured to keep people in certain positions.
l reward for effort [thus same $ for all?] 2 need.
people equate power with wealth. distribution of power [flaw] same with $. how bout where both end up, settle, land, collect, distribute themselves? sleepy talkers
/eastenders = tv program. pretty hateful and gruesome one night. raw
/viets arrive here and in 5 yrs in ivy leaque colleges due to ability . which is the point.!
privilege is not a bad word in eng.
/lawrence welk?; all the subtleties: the schs, main. ment, secs. cafeteria help, etc. are smarter and more able as people don’t commute that far. gas sta man, elevator man, waitress, etc. it’s all up several notches. – why I always beat it back to the east side when a hack. the driving?
/good soc life at work makes menial work more tolerable. intellects look down on such work, said tv
/s.w. background makes me look interested in people. true of card?/ flashbulbs go off in stadium – up to l3 ft
geraldo rivera vs m. adler
feeling the little guy doesn’t have a chance – from tenants re insur. voters put thru l03, some insur cos stopped writing, others raised their rates – so it’s all a big conspiracy; why vote – herm and gene.
Newswk 9/l9/88 union based class resentment
/ m.c. = 20k-60k ll/ 88 wash food down, slurp
where are: radical chic, limo libs, yuppies, tweeners
/ live near white trash for yrs, who keep their places like junkyard or pig stys and then some viets move in and fix it up some, only some.
/have to duck under their trees or walk away from their bushes that stick out
/ episcopalian
/ class=entitled, privileged, expectations?, success is assumed,
/ bring less privileged there get their hearts broken. realistic presentation: work hard, then legacies got into best college more easily. kids have more $ than faculty. showed lecture on passover. ed time lag = results show later.
/skid row has its code; so does prim and proper working class neighborhoods [?????? – have I ever seen one?]
/people move to where they are more comfortable – ma decided against river ln
/can’t say any class wants to get ahead more than any other or wants to get ahead of where it is.
/strange that this thesaurus would define bourgeois as
a: common, conventional, middle-class, ordinary
n: proletariat, working class/
/no one a mc as a mc black
/class – several classes in pub trans – rr, ships!, plane, limo
/must be class in entertainment
/uc serves dull food as spicey food is assoc with lc, they want to avoid
/ i say wc is the common man. and more up front, less subtle. uc guilty and have to bend over backwards to be mc and wc supposed to bend to be mc. /maslaneks to linc. cent. mary uncomfortable round pros -yes
/ jim mcpadden and stiffnecks of rums
/ aristocracy of birth and character = melodrama
/ whole message : realize where you came from and go where you’re comfortable. where am I comfortable: phil, spank?, tina, moks, marge, john stanford, keith,
/skip guilt, inferiority, snob.., hoops from whatever end
/people at k-mart lined up around eating area of k mart for bargain pics and loud, mouthy guy running on -schlock/
/ so don’t buy em rechargable bats, or recharger /
/with ba’s making more than hi sch dips, I wonder if that it how it should have been?/
/right after I said my folks were traveling abroad, d.w. said what does you dad do/
/great problems with trying to express selves: herman trying to say how ams. resented viet sign in am. bread shop. – tim trying to say why he didn’t like when the l a times uses a play on words in the titles of their articles like: “Police suspect sour grapes after vandal uncorks winery’s vats. I ‘ll never know what either meant./
/didn’t know if capsized ferry in news had lk or l mil on it/
/some seem to burn food often – or as a matter of course – that eddie- and they have low self-esteem all are diff and AS IT TURNS OUT the uc LOOKS “BETTER”
/jack smith l/l6/89 send him mine. I did and got note from him.
[some reluctantly taking about it more]
w.c. = w/ hands, blue collar. hsewives?, pros, degrees, hard workers/
/hodding carter l/89 more acceptance of stratification/ I got mine/
/how many women of what class want to only have kids – thus ed wasted/
/ who do you want your kids mixing with –
/ mr’s /how do classes feel bout roots and what else? bunker, dynasty? /tabloids
/what type of houses or res areas are distinctly [classily diff]
/don’t apologize for it
/shanty irish
/whose tuffest – ed mounce’s story of l. edny’s son.
/ elites
/can’t ride wc bout their grammar, concepts, and what else – like gene burpo. can’t tell a wc he’s as good as anyone
/ diffs are not inequality
/ born right time of yr for eaton, vs wel ma with 9 by diff pas.
/separate the character, bunker, from the class – bigotry vs lifestyle./dick cavett
/don’t apologize for accents
/morton downey jr, geraldo, steve allen, roseanne
/alistar cook
/d.j. ranch: jeans, hoe down, grammar, blu collar pride, reaffirmation, informal, nonconform?, anti fancy or formal or dressy
am
fallows la times mag 3/l2/89 fix
the strength of la [& am]: lack of tradition, freedom to start over -always 2nd chances., ims, no downtown, no taste, but energy.
in a one hi sch town, there is a limit to how far classes can sep. -moreso in a small town. in old cities of east coast and in eng. accents=parents $, if college, destiny. a. [assumption classes stifle ambition -opposite could be true]. asians prejudiced. black underclass growing further apart. rise of a status system based on iq, ed, ed credentials.
*college grads hide their racial or rel prejudices but sneer at hi sch dropouts. a.
-ed ranking fine for asia, but not here. it’s a threat to “anyone can make a new start”. before wwii less than l0% went to college.
– ed offers the am dream, but promotes rigidity. thus harder to change course at 40 – sig.
fallows: asians: order and disc. am: fair and oppor. -people’s best moments came when they didn’t know their place [fix] and could create. sig. am would be as lost without this as jap would be w/o its order and ethnic unity. we [no one] needs their meritocracy
He’s saying is am system better because:
-am: or cal: not hung on accents, class, tradition, taste. thus creative, flex, open, casual, fun, and oppor = 2nd chances
-asians: or just jap: order, disc, loyalty to co, ethnic=jap. hierarchy due to ed [&?] {due to crowding?] class.
-beware of: rigidity due to iq, sat, ed, gent wk, [rigid] classes, accent, prejudice [ethnic, gender, gay, disabled, im, age] [socialism]
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am’s favorite workingman: archie bunker./
/inequalities: adults always have more than youth. regs, vs ims, mng vs labor. off vs enlisted? /greater inequalities in other cul and less crime. /various meanings of elite, elitist, elitism
/u.c. charity as justification
/flics bout it: my fair lady, oliver
/atten and int span of domingo and herm at map./dom and herm never picked up hist atlas status
/class and blood sports – fox /get right to class and fix end
/postrel: folks hide pri sch. schs are the last bastion of unbridled
egalitarianism. [not done well] equity the goal despite consequences. /list all the guys that have stayed here, what they did for wk, what I learned from em re class? etc?
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gop-orientd groups / % of reg.. voters
enterprisers / l0% affluent, ed, pro biz, anti gov, anti deficit
moralists / l3% mid age, mid inc, anti abor, pro sch pray & mil
upbeats / l0% young, pos, patriot, pro gov, worry bout deficit
disaffected / l0% mid age, alienated, pessimistic, anti giv & biz, pro mil
democrat-oriented
followers/ 6% young, little faith in am or int in pol, worry bout uib
seculars/ 7% mid age, ed, not rel, non mil, pro pers free..
’60’s dems/ 9% umc,id with ’60’s peace, c rights & envir
new dealers/ l4% older, mid inc, rel, protectionist, pro union & gov
partisan poor/ l2% soc programs, anti tax hikes
passive poor/ 9% older, faith in am’s insts, soc programs, anti comm
this from la?
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jack smith: [who as usual can’t get it together]
tobacco rd/stevenson-truman/ johnson-kennedy-nix/ ford, carter, ike/ mac?/mex vs viets in ed – class/mc – pa knows best/
/wc not concerned with the how and why, just the do. I showed em on map, caught their genuine interest, but it faded quickly
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us news 4/24/89 eng – one of the world’s most class-conscious societies.
uc -eaton, oxford, & spoke like Henry Higgins.
mc – minor priv schs ” ” bbc
wc – st ed ” ” eliza doolittle
but changing: income, taste and ed more sig now than birthright.
the victorian sense of class is arbitrary and unjust privilege, [which media sees as] debutants, polo at windsor, hereditary peers in the hse of lords. now article is getting cute, chic.
entrepreneurs have emerged, due to 7 yrs of growth, tax cuts and drop in unions.
the intellectual left = chattering classes. agnostic but thatcher rev. say greed is sapping nat. spirit and bringing selfishness. 4 in l0 blus back cons.! l/2 of blus advance? now more rh and blew the ending -gap,
“fairness”, =wel state, etc/ deference to one’s betters. author assumes the erosion of civility. rich poor gap #
/ralph cramden and archie bunker, – lovable – can’t say the wc is more lovable, real?, etc
/geo jefferson
/them that has, gets
/wc more prone to girlie calandars at their workplaces
/l9th cent eur. stratified. lower classes held in contempt by mc and uc. /my anti pro things goes against u.c? /ozzie and harriet as which class
-/dic. of ideas: class used l770. soc use, later econ use. mc bout l790 [maybe it’s econ that seps them] ah ha change came bout with indust rev. /class a more fluid term than rank or order. wc meant industrial production and mc and uc ref to position in a hierarchy
/capitalism – rule by wealth. totalitarianism – rule over wealth.
freeman
church’s interpretation of medieval soc: prayers, defenders, workers.
and in france clergy, nobility, commoners till the rev. eng priests, knights, commoners became propietors of land, proprietors of stock, and workers. = those who lived by rent, by profits, by wages. [vs salary – sig?] [fallacy of bell curve – big mc nec for dem]
hemingway was wrong that only diff of rich is, yes, they have more $.
classes as complimentary 445. dict of ideas ah ha, and interdependent. this the pos view. marx took a neg view. go to 446
/acquinas: each has his calling [position] and duty to accept inequalities
. those who perform the more complex taskss require longer prep. and thus need greater rewards.
/the lumpenproletariat – dregs. [why no comps – country by country] [darwin – and the west] pri prop seen as the root of inequality – rousseau – marx. but = oppor. 3 types:
l those with rational scientifiic capacities who lead.
2 those with primarily motor capacities for manual labor, and
3 those with sensory capacities – art and religion.
mid 20th cent: class societies – large mc bulge [0] [poor] it said see equality, hierarchy, ideology and some lessers in dict of ideas
/spires or other places late fri or sat night – dregs come in/ irvine/
/hillbillies
/writing thank you notes
/class. those who work for gov or stay in serv “it’s gets hungry out there”
/gen to move up, what to move down
/class: domingo out of hse w/o hair, into kitch all time w/o hair. misses shaves lots here and outside. bathing
-/tim on class: mellons, gettys. entertainment and sports figures. power and infl. of 60/40 as 90/l0 = snob?? elites.
tim sees three: uc mc lc. and says most see it that way. & put working class as lmc
tim sees three divisions of the basic three. Higgins is always trying to prove he’s luc. farmers are umc. and sm biz owners.
mc was dobbie gillis, beaver, cleaver. father knows best. cosby is umc but a phoney family. fam ties with m j fox is mc. thinks mc less content than others and are the lst to become protesters. says uc youth rebell for a while. some switch pol parties – jay rockefeller. fdr?
gleason was mc then but would be lmc now. wk= wges. salary means mc and uc are those who get the profits. bunkers – lmc.
he sees how as lmc cause he owns a hse. thus sees these 2 sts as mc. sees irvine and m. viejo as umc.
working hmless as mlc wel as ulc skid row and career criminals as llc. white collar criminals as umc. the comic freddy prince went up to fast like the barrio kid who went to harvard.
refugees are a spec case?
? ask him of poor, midway city sch, cary grant, grace, etc. deference, manners, iq, riots in watts
/interest in travel, ethnics, foreign cultures have anything to do with class. not w/ margaret shih
/pa made it and son blew it
-/chuck johnson on southern? class: lower classes talk more bout class due to desire to advance. class determined by stability success, wk, $.
l rich 2 white collar of upper mng or who own. 3 blu – the doers
4 very poor 5 st people who choose that. less oppor now w/ viets. class is not talked about much. wc= manual, supers, and office.
midway city is lmc. pro = engineers or any speciality.
no class has more cs?. sig.
prejudice among class = love story. our grp’s folks never told us not to hang around any grp or type in h.s. – so where was the class prejudice? which I think is much of color prejudice. [lower classes defensive?]/tim sees “young” as l5-20 [re lib chart] as he was on own at l8. [whereas usual college crowd not on own till 22.
– lot don’t vote. you wouldn’t want em to
/they assume the poor want help /class.
we’ve all gotten our feelings hurt and accidently hurt other’s feeling [over this?] I always felt soc life judges you fairly.
sportsmen, bkworms, dancers, bowlers, bridgeplayers, churchies,
but not equal talent. don’t look down on or up to people.
/lc used to noise and action. put em in irvine, they’d be shocked, somewhat pleased, threatened, and then bored. like from city to country. don’t do as much hmwk as it’s so noisey -norberto’s
/class. those who work for gov or stay in serv “it’s gets hungry out there”
/gen to move up, what to move down
/class: domingo out of hse w/o hair, into kitch all time w/o hair. misses shaves lots here and outside. bathing
/lc – go off in front of kids scaring them – broward county -scaring little 7 yr old she wanted to go to the hospital to avoid staying at hm. – cop should have chewed the guy and slammed him.
/idea of challenge, overcoming
/class. gal said college should teach course on rape. & tim thought young people were l5-20
/irvine’s heritage park multi serv cent. no litter, no gum, new, chamber music, various classes – quiet. subdued, civil, gentil, refined, tasteful, understated, no ostentatiousness, no boom box, peaceful, quiet endeavors,
curbs, sts,
/ed and what else are screens? re?, soc?, tv? media?
/poor don’t read. thus dk gardening, car, hse main, news, travel, bargains, eating grease, health, $ mng.
/wc finds ritz carlton stuffy as a dress code
/farmers are planners. irvine farmers planned irvine, and segerstroms planned so coast plz. /rancho santa margarita is incredible/ / cable tv guys: refugees from del taco: hair, profane, moved car.
/class gi bill
/the wc tip more as they know that’s how people make living
only the poor wot helps the poor
/mr. limon’s room had a highly strong urine odor -migrant camp in oregon. we couldn’t broach the subject.
/palasades park, the pike, coney island, loisters, linc cent, canegie hall,
/free market allows people to gravitate to their level
/dropout class by virtue of appearance, beh, resp, vals, and wc call em low life. bikers?
/class: don’t forget troublesome kids I’ve hired. ones who warned others cops were coming. set clocks ahead. eggs on halloween. kellenbergers. worked here, than had trouble with em. larry, chucky, sammy, richard
/parades. b&c ops and this neigh – can’t appreciate you. does one have a resp to maintain one’s position. stuffy. will be filled by whomever?
/pro not interested in tapping non pro. threatened?
/do wc avoid each other more as neighs, or have reason to? as don phillips and gene burpo said they did in this neigh.
/class. norms restaurant. dick cavett. college for all
/mostly the wc that fought in viet
/class: gte phone mart. bars after wk on wkdays. ny dailey news, aquaduct, yankee stadium, shea?, roseland, mad sq. garden, radio city music hall. posters ALL over.
/common people get ahead by labor vs those who use heads: bankers, speculators, mechants, creditors.
/ll yrs in ny and never saw stat of lib from a distance or wall st
/limited horizons = interests
/when it comes to handling $ – fp, connections with brain crowd,
/elites. immaturity
/herm wks 3 dys/wk. didn’t look for wk. slept l2 hrs/day. terrible $ mang. all is play, lazy speech, borrows. chase women. yet can’t down him for no ambition
/a “good ed” probably diff for diff classes.
/big secret: the sig of the neigh. re gov programs?, class, $, ed,
/I have little in common with all of the neighbs I’ve met. but what bout other neighborhoods. I probably met more, was more comfortable
/falcon crest seen in 63 countries. am programs best for masses. -proves classes. same true of dallas? dynasty?
/indiscriminate tv watching
/jacking up car in mid of pep boys parking lot and getting underneath
/class and eth – being unrealistic only sets em up for failure. wasps
swear around their kids. spit in trash.
/more class in mex: if rich person comes up, the poor get quiet. they too use “blue blood.
/level classes – never been done
/wc is quicker to bed. assem line work. spit on glasses -disgusting – skip
/class: happy herm, joe, norberto, not a line on their faces.
/speech used to intimidate in ghetto – some necessity
/circuses, carnivals. tony randal
/does wc have more kids. org st fair
/british uc seem to spend all their time on class.
/classes in same fam: odette and bro
/jacuiline smith
/watching tv in dark. can’t believe no. of guys here hot with window only partly opened and curtain closed.
/patti hearst: conf. discriminant, knows gual, manners, propriety, iq
/palasades park. arrived. started to org, but had to keep calling em back. $5 ea. blew it, then long faces, wanting to borrow a quarter rest of the night. guy who broke case, sw excused it. docu on ghetto guy who eat his lunch right off and mc who saved theirs.
/toms pizza place: too much going on: deck shuffle, b-ball, pool drunk adults round kids. kids wrestling. LOUD. compete? terribl clothes, raukus. chance for accident. ic. b-ball cap on bakcwards. yell in your ear. blow smoke in your face, fat, poor judgement,
/people will go to anything. viet fair, mex fair, hb parade, buddist festival, org st. fair, oc fair,
/tim spends $l400 on diamond ring, no insur. when he doesn’t have a car.
fudge
/class: radio shack: too gimmicky, glitzy, cluttered. handling mng matter in front of customers.
/any rel twix iq and ambition
/studs turkel
/vita craft girls
/class: tastefully dressed, bright, polite, self-assured, discreet, discriminate, – armstrong nursery
/infl of neigh, fam sch, church. cap is good for it
/keep repeating the story – hy
/better driver in uc than mc neighborhoods?
/class: fed grp. bounce, tap fingers, rattle merchandize, change, keys. fidget, snort, wheeze, scrunch paper, tose. shirt unbuttoned, terrible hair, earing, stubble. charcol t-shirt. wk pants. suspender off. punk-chic. impersonal? phoney, gimicky, dumb tricky rehearsed humor – part of training?. talk to co-worker while waiting on you or making change. blk aisle, be bop, hep cat, stud, moll. noise. turn vol up to demo. tell me I got ripped off. sure aint nordstroms
/cheap stores: k mart, marshalls: save $, but lose time. punch register forever. more paperwk.
/class people don’t realize the talent of the top or the immaturity of the bottom. sig.
/highly amorous in public
/hl menken: people like to feel superior. most in mng claim to be in top l0%
/class – tim said: clothes, talk, demeanor, expressions, trapse, don’t fit types at the track, but not at casinos. old for their years. big labor of collecting tote tickets [and cans] for independ
/class. put out washer and dry to be sold because dryer didn’t work. only thing wrong was a switch. got both for $35. clean underneath. type that probably pull plug out by cord till it breaks, then throw it out -spec
/the hmless, criminals, poor, druggers?, gangs, minorities, etc on tv go out of their way to be obnoxious: language, appearance, no manners, ed, civility.
/dc library vs wheaton lib. same with hb & here
/cable tv pole climbers. can’t count return change. won’t learn
/lib dig said gov helps rich at expense of poor. inherited wealth
/slums. more unauthorized illegal parking? – stater bros, well fargo.
/olivia de havilland, joan fontaine?
/whistling and comments to women. do some like it? you tell em you don’t want to hear about it and they persist. sally jesse raphael asking patti hearst when she knew she was in love, patti declining and sally baffled.
describing operations
/music so loud it was distorted – abbats
/tim left bike out. stolen. got robbed?. let insur lapse. didn’t thank me for work on hit run driver. lost $ on hse. and gambling. left car on bolsa chica. never waxed it, $l400 ring-no insur. blew at boss. tv freak. 3 l/2 yr college. & a nice guy. unassertive
/holt and irv. tasteful, subdued, waspish, tailored, immaculate. you can relax. you don’t feel defensive. people put them selves and cars together better – comb hair, no undershirts, no car radios cranked way up, no boom boxes, know HOW to landscape: vines, hedges, bushes, trees – which and how to arrange, trim, shape. $ but more than money – like hank james. finese. iq. dr. johnstone. more law abiding. more courteous as don’t have their guard up
/low rents=cheap people. cheapos steal more from less expensive stores: k mart, target, vs buffums. they even steal from thrift stores. sloppy places draw sloppy staff – dad – celetex – junkyards, jim’s surplus. if we dont’ have it, we have part of it
/working under car on major st – with no safety jack stand – [tim]
/are laws enforced differently in slums, mc, uc neighborhoods
/wc = bulk of movie audience before l9l5
/silly movies in india must be for wc?
/class = attitudes, tastes, outlook, interests – all need def..
/whitney’s quiet condo – what a pleasure
/bearing, manners, propriety, hi-minded?, poise, speech, clean cut,
/the elits are the top l0% of inc? and ed?. l/2 are in new class [media, opinion shapers, academia, entertain? & l/2 in biz
/mtbatten was one of the few multifaceted people who could satisfy nehru
/assumption uc is more phoney? vs subtle
/sch bus drivers. /st. urchins, ragmuffins
/b&c ops don’t read
/local newscaster vs nat
/probably not as much? parking just anywhere in better neighs. – more concern with manners, order, courtesy, image, gentleness, restraint
/I love lucy. pa knows best, beaver, donna reed show, mary tyler moore show
/french rev: wc vs bourgeouis.
/preventative maintenance, but do some non-mechanical wc practice it or have to.
/elvis: god’s gift to the working class
/class in bars, restaurants, churches, entertainment, clothes, manners, sports?
/country western, hillbillies, okies. cheech and chong, lo riders, elliot richardson
/got to explain everything.
/I’ve told some roomers with sloppy table manner to forget ever dating a refined uc girl
/wel ma who dk how to make change – pecos
/loud, josteling in line – thot we’d get hit. boozed, making out in pub. they let it all hang out. my place
/the uc that earned their $ are happier
/no of tenants who do NOT read the paper – even glance at front page
/he bore the linquistic imprint of his subculture
/more emphasis on how the higher you go
/class. logic: tim said the 9l was not crowded implying I should have taken it, but he took it at l2:30 pm.//said what ever tastes good is good for you. and women as strong as men or your sexist. these wear you out.
/r of fear of falling. the inner life of the mc. 8/89
postwar us most assumed all were mc or gonnabe or wannabe. class no longer rel. indiff to class an am habit. seen from tocqeville on. thus left never caught on. author on left. most of our ideas are mc [a]. no one in recent yrs defined class. it remains mired in prejudice and myth.. mc insecure [a]. isolated [by whom] reviewer is doom #
-/the rich embezzle, the poor steal, the rich fabricate, the poor lie.
/wc – pa takes resp for kids after divorce ??????
/i feel better in newport cr, so coast plz, tustin, vs guady tastles #39 – clutter. non stop sales. radio shack vs buffims
/tabloid: globe, star. people, flash, ego, climb, shock, glamour, tasteless, sex, bizarre, ghoulish, sensational, predictions, fate, lo iq, immature, way off on disc, psych. live thru
/must be a lot who could live in a better neigh, but don’t vs others who’ll do anything to. you go out front looking terrible here
/wc more union minded vs independ contactors
/making out on the beach
/wc has sex earlier?
/had to practically take pa in cuffs to his girl’s grad
/speed burrs in emerald bay
/did civil rights reinforce or affect our aversion? to class
/to sir w/ love. wc – disc
/uc lives longer than lc p 33 bright promises ….
/class or is it just mng or whatever in leaders of reunion
/focus on soc: status = $, prestige, power which come from ed, job, $. lee rainwater
/- key people said pres of sjs
/diff meanings for soph, abmition, effort, hard, tuff, respect [fear], class = smart aleck?, make it = leave ghetto/ slick=get over/ masterpiece theatre: poise.
/fonz said I don’t think I’ll ever understand a mc fam
/lc seeks its own level lulu – sam. anna
/the privileged – earned em and kept em
/resp to maintain one’s position. no
/your old man, the old lady
/class. irvine ’86 proper, quiet, refined, discriminate, subtle, decent,
thus the people more appealing
/public takes over: tom and jerry’s, me and eds at sjs
/$, res, appearance, origin of inc. how you spend it./old fam. estab..
/how you MNG your $.
/why are ims left out of class
/what’s big deal bout cowboy hats at country western places?
/thatcher is fighing classes stratification
/eng nobility feels their position is to lead. [aussies? resented em but grew to admire their courage] ’86 eng nobility could have been considered dead l0 yrs ago. the well born. may begins the summer soc season. can’t buy your way in and don’t have to be rich to belong. under 30, it’s to find someone. 30-50 = soc. the invitation is the status symbol. manners from an early age. this sets them apart. respect for tradition. girls quit sch at l6-l7 and go to _____ to study cooking, typing, flower arranging at $l7k/yr. royalty, nobility, commoners. 25 dukes [wannamaker party]
class: smith, keith, whitney, chet, r allen, tom, scott, kila, coomber, june, m howell,
/dianna merril
/uc – easy to underestimate – it’s what they don’t do
/does one class believe more in classes than others
/class. don’t see you till last moment,then swerve around-like 50 mi dr
I wonder if one can’t hold their liquor as well.
/class: read between lines,
/the higher” one goes up the soc econ ladder, the greater those who:
see college as essential to advancement.
prefer college for their kids.
prefer job statisfaction
prefer pro wk to skilled manual work.
less priviledged: locally, fam & present time oriented. /their word is less as defensive, bluff?, short time frame
/wc must resent college kids – and be justified in part.
/honey, dear, sweetie to customers. koz rushed to use lst name: jon
/frisco, vegas – dego =sd
/- talk out of side of mouth lc don’t respect past troubles of ll
/gum snappers
/org muffler shop 997 9ll0 said mex on hoover st below create great litter in sts tho swept weekly. screen out use sindow for dorrs. shop tries to get decent help but late, leave early, on tel all day, indecisive, know answer but ask anyhow for permission [atten], uncommital, can’t handle mistakes
/among upper income people, do some move closer to their kinds – meaning sporty, iq, pub serv. etc – their ethnic grp or religion etc
/class preferences are not prejudices?
/no shirt in bank
/wc [party out at ……..]: loud, hee haw?, guffaa, diff kind of humor. clothes too snug on bad shapes. don’t dress up, informal.
/fams who put ed burden on teachers.
/which religion, entertainment
/does wc youth buy more junk food. bus riders
/class: got their music too loud in stores. clutter. barking specials. gimmicks
/this neigh doesn’t know how to appreciate you
/even? mi’s didn’t feel comfortable around normals.
/snobs vs slobs?
/doug rainier
/w. post re washingtonians: scotch, wht collar, cul, comp, antiques, career, less tv, and no int in
sewing, fishing, 4 wheel driv rec vehics.
43k/hse after taxes = 50% more than most ams.
richer, better ed, freer spending, more lux activities and products.
lo uib, hi no of 2 inc fams. 65% white collar vs 20% nat .
thus possibly out of touch with rest. stereotype as fat cats insulated. rest anti fed. tops in per capita consumption of booze.
/frankie took her kids to pro wrestling: they didn’t nec believe it? but showed good guys won. @#$%^@#$%
/adventures with the poor man and other local programs cater to the grubby. /bumpkin, hick, hillbilly, yokel
/ oakie, arkie /redneck
/adray’s loading dock: earing, no shirt, hair in face? tatoo? walk right in front of you, talk in your ear to someone else bout dates, profanity, loud, uncouth, macho, etc. to cope with such a job.gum, chew? tobacco. torn jeans /same in back of hm depot
/prince chas liked the naturalness of austrailians’ lack of pretense and social rank +++
/traveling lst class, 2nd class – weak
/brkln – sat night fever – see bkln in ny file
/breaking away
/i val the common man. I oppose conv wisdom, which doesn’t come from the common man. see lists.
/dianna williams and another resented my having been to college
/prince george’s cnty & hogan vs montgomery
/roach coach
/other side of the tracks
/repeat themselves again and again
/newswk: fdr a traitor to his class. assumption that wasps are on the soc register? clubbale. harrumph. manners. cap gains. tut-tutt. sailing vs power boats. [let hair down]. effortless grace. taste and style are sig. code: fairminded, generous, humble. sublimate their baser urges by vigorously competing at meaningless activities. – sports. sportsmanship. easy to play by the rules, if you own the court [snide]. above the fray. stooping to conquer. [?] pol is dirty so most wasps stay out of running and go for appointed positions. noblesse oblige. discreet, self effacing. not revealing. not public. [assuption [bias] they aren’t reg guys] #
/wc not celebrated like in past. us news. a ? /#
/how many archie bunkers walk by the paper ea day and never look at the front page.
/blue collars portrayed as beer-driking, big bellied, bigoted rednecks who dress badly., but we’re too big. would need $ tailoring for suits.
their bigotry is in open. blues are the last heros.
white collars have narrow shoulders and wide bottoms. they don’t earn their $ doing work women can do. nerds
blue: manly world of strength, skill, energy, hard work. they make things. white collars don’t.
blues drove the whites from the playgrounds into libraries when young.
blues fidgeted out of class. drop their g’s. great feats of skilled labor over the weekend, on job, and date during wk, w/o sleep. can beat body builders. being a tradesman is viewed with distain. guys take min wage to wear a suit partly blu’s fault as they tel sons get a job people repect. blues should swagger a little. won’t be respected w/o respecting selves.
their wk often hard, hot, wet, cold, and always dirty. and satisfying – as physical result. us news ll/6/89 # polarized. defensive, yet put down.
/overweight and tight clothes, why advertise it.
/country western
/ hick-deliverance.
/drive up and honk – but carry over from indians – security
/poor one now by gal who polarizes:
the working class is the majority.
6 mos coal miner strike [as of ll/89] buried by media. wc seen as less assertive. never got its share of pub. discovered by media in 69 w “deer hunter” and “blu collar” = the neglected majority. = roseanne. married with children. academia says class is out of style. [ex of mc knowing only of pros & underclass]
cul insularity of the prof mc [or any class]. [prof mc = xx?] [biased article and left out uc]. the most intractable stereotype is of the white working class as a collection of reactionaries and bigots – hard hats or archie bunker types. wc more opposed to viet war [when]. mc? suspicion wc is dumb, inarticulate, and too loyal to archaic values. thus? wc is setting for macho -sat night fever & “working girl”. also setting for mental imparement – married w/ children.
mc see wc as addicted to cigs, budwiser, polyester, and network tv. mc says polyester is tacky – a code word for lc. she said nothing of wc biases or of the uc. she played to wc. ty lib. la What Working Class. ll/4/89
did all she could to polarize.#
title: understanding class. the sig of class. class means difference.
classes monitor and regulate themselves so to speak, and anyone
julie andrews, roseanne
/look at your rel, neigh, friends, ask yourself how comfortable you are with that. if not go where you’re comfortable
/deference to one’s betters. [what is betters]. author assumes the erosion of civility. rich poor gap #
/martha’s vinyard crowd must be affluent
/always wondered if my folks kept us from others. doubtful.
/leave it to beaver is affluent says oc ratings
/all these categories are made to sound good. they overlap. do they define sep lifestyles? 40 of them were defined by the Claritas Corp, alex, va. while 48 were defined by nat. decision systems in encinitas. they are used by the army, the circus. geodemograhics. too complex
army finds recruits in lmc of dingy bars and farm jobs. should be graphed. geodemograhics:
while 20% of the pop moves ea yr, neighborhoods change slowly and their lifestyles remain stable. we’re not a melting pot, we’re statified [as birds of a feather flock ….]
pub assist = l/3 on wel. they buy cold cuts and malt liquor at many time the nat average.
the people’s court, lifestyles of rich and fam.. , drs. and lawyers earn ll times the nat average. [& you’ll probably never get em to admit to outsider their op.
the priest blesses cars and trucks of mex..
carl’s jr uses this.
altho census every l0 yrs, geodem… updated annualy.
which neighbors help ea other out more – sig? due to time?, need?, back to wall? having lived there forever? not a ghetto thus some hope. catchy upbeat names of nds.
did this favor some grps?
blue blood estates give 5 times as much to colleges as the gen pop.
/some wk 2 jobs to live a certain place.
nb: very trad, cons in style, taste, design, vals: muffy, buffy, preppie, country clubby, plaid skirt, kids with pigtails and bows. dress well & $, but very cons. bal is is casual, more? individ.
sa: hispanics. big fams. watch lot of boxing and little tennis. few hs dips. decent and hard working. watch novelas. don’t golf or water ski.
san clemete: prefer venice: iq coment bout conceptual art & which mineral water.
diff ints
/spotless glass coffee table w/ arhcitectural dig..
cold cuts and malt liquor /tupperwear parties, as the world turn.
irish whisky,
cigarillos,
nat. enguirer. tv din’s – can’t eat em. – stupid thing to say.
sitcoms & soaps. vs news and docus. wall st j, nyer, eur travel & life, mb and bmw’s, exotic cruises. blk tie fund raisers /
hot rod mag, chewing tobacco, impalas, canned stews
/brokerage servs. travel agencies, glossy cataloques.
bowling, watch hunter,
/ sushi, classical music /fine wines / tennis and racquetball
imported beer. sutter hm whitenfandel. vs gallo. all this from oc article. i had some conclusion but forgot it. # /these nds? categories are too much “feel good”/
/are sports primarily a wc int? re spectate? participate?
class is part of human nature/doc, frisco, dego
/radio city = wc
/pro wresting must be a great study of brown shirts
/lot of things disappointing at mc sch – can tell brighter asian kids.
lst, among modern countries, in feeling youth should be able to attend college. – flaw here?
/irony of hugh down and geraldo
/music and dreams more sig for wc whose lives are conventional.
/trump = new rich/ class – huggins.
/can’t have mono by class – wc=comm, mc= ? or uc=nobles
/oc levels – 4 – : lo inc, mc, affluent, wealthy.
this article “padded” and glossed ea lifestyle?
lo inc
just starting singles & couples.
blu collar, large fams, overcrowded
fixed inc
mc
young mng, mid inc, blu collar,
white collar empty nesters
lower mc in tracts
mobile hms
affluent
yuppies – fast-trackers, climbing careers, few kids
new hms
near hi tech centers
hi ed, empty nesters.
wealthy
best ed. captains of industry, pros
/50% is suburban affluence. vs l0% of us. – all this from article in r//l930’s class-warfare rh.
/class . love of learning
/poor of east end and rich of mayfair – london.
Social Class and Gov. Policy
see equal, soc?, cap?, lists?
titles the sig of class. understanding class
pensions, mand retirement,
ethnic: blk, brown, red, yellow, jews, for aid
means tested
corp taxes?,
In one city this element absorbed 55% of its welfare, 5l% of its health services, and 56% of its mental health and correctional services.
soc=wel st:
spec stores for commies.
/dual admissions
via elections, initiative, referendum, recal (pop. sov…)
/ a message of hope ‑ be what you are ‑ go where your comfortable
/mcgee and roger – the sig is not class, but maturity.
/ w.c. is UNECESSARILY defensive ‑ has been made to be.
/ stratification / class, not caste
/ deference / power, status, prestige,
/level the classe through the graduated income tax, the inheritance tax,
corp? taxes, releasing the poor from income tax and subsidizing them
heavily. what other cons. thots are in here ‑ penalizing entrepreneurs,
incentive, leadership?,
/m – the bad elite
/ groton seeks to close gap twix econ privilege and ….. potential
/ bring less privileged there get their hearts broken. realistic presentation: work hard, then legacies got into best college more easily.
/class the most avoided subject – sig
/-great temptation to say one class is the backbone or hero or better – make a case for ea! uc – leader, mc -stabilizers, biggest?, ideal. wc – biggest, workers, common, salt of earth, conventional?,
/ us news l2/l9/88: As in other industrial countries, …the working class is mainly anti-intellectual, deeply patriotic, and traditional in it values. sig sig sig/
/income isn’t nec a mark of one’s class.
white collar does tax returns.????
he says we are a soc of class./ these from jack smith l/l6/89 #
/ ea according to his ability to …needs/
/l in l0 ams doesn’t have a bank – and uses check cashing services, credit unions, etc.
/the masses? or the libs? don’t like inherited priviledge/
/if mc or uc hustles like the viets, they have to hide, it apologize for it, give it away, and other lib crap – sig /the viets don’t know that – and it’s ok as long as they are average, but resented when they get ahead
/can get the kid out of ghetto, but not reverse
/people take their iq and their schooling as judgements of their ability -sig.
-/in eng aristocrats only went into church, army, banking, law. = gentle-
men’s work. thus eng lost this talent in manufacturing and sci. in am gent.. wk= med and law, which may drain talent from other fields. in those 2 field iq makes $; in others not nec.
/-he’s saying societies have structures better and worse for using talent. that ours makes it best for drs. and lawyers.
societies work best when indiv and collective interest overlap. sig?
The temptations of an aristocracy based on intellec merit make them diverge. sig. fallows
/confuse equity [assets? cause it also means fairness] with fairness.
vouchers would let good stus leave bad ones in some schs. [better for both]
[good suppose to rub off on bad? in my day, said ma.
mc = new car, hm in suburbs, college ed for kids
/wc don’t value or use ed so they say its up to schools. the army got them over to japan or g, but they don’t use that info or relate it to a frame of ref. they can put up with assembly line jobs, routine, security guard jobs, boring jobs – lifeguard, where others can’t. they hear bout iran and will fight it, but don’t know where it is, climate, trade, strategic value, etc.. not their job nor interest. can’t assume ed them or anyone makes em better citizens – look to ims for that
/what class simple regil who took bus straight back
the victorian sense of class is arbitrary and unjust privilege.
/”fairness”, =wel state, etc/
[if am is where you can get ahead, why makes excuses for those who don’t] power, wealth, or relationships.
/we think of class as what it should not be, not what it is
/elitist in the bad [unnatural?] sense/
/WANT to think of rich lead lives like the great gatsby or rich and famous
/does wc HAVE to be more cons? uc can afford to be lib. mc?
/cap facilitates class mobility, fluidity
/uc eng =down on industry
/your income influences your neigh = lifestyle = outlook
/have the wrong discussion in front of kids – anna in other rm.
/implicit assumption that mc is average – & bell curve -/east enders – most pop in eng. roseanne. married with childre
/people seem only willing to use lower and upper mc
/ed doesn’t have much affect on class? me, bob lowe,
/cap seen as an int of the cap class – flaw – as all classes like it when understanding it
/where is the common man [or wc] wrong: unions, help ours lst, buy am, prejudice?
/tabloids and class. they are big in eng [shows wc is biggest]
/their bigotry is in the open
/soc..gists reinforce this prejudice [?] with theories of wc parochialism and authoritarianism.
/prefer the slums
-/wc on tv only as witnesses to crimes or sports, never as commentators – even when sub is their own lives. sig. source
/neighs, malls? types of stores, flics, entertainment, museums? biotry?
(valencias, garnica?, domingo, barker, corey)
geodemograhics:
while 20% of the pop moves ea yr, neighborhoods change slowly and their lifestyles remain stable. we’re not a melting pot, we’re statified 5
/don’t use autonomy, sovereignty etc w/ wc anthro,
/ I learned it from life, wch, wk. handicapped and all other disadvantages, basic assumptions, college, uib?, low life – st paul, ed, slums? alc? see the article. am dream, polarization = oversimplifying, mw, see ll, pol, revolutions! rich richer, etc. mixing,
/mao tried to build a classless society.
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divisions
/ slaves; masters/ servants. capitalists/ workers. lords and serfs?/patricians; plebians. owners and non owners/ nobels and commoners. officers and enlisted men; ll and tenant, mang and labor, leaders, followers. mngk/labor, mil, thinkers, doers, officers and enlisted vs warrant officers, etc./ underclass. elite
newswk 9/l9/88 union based class resentment sig?
/ m.c. = 20k-60k ll/88. richest l/5th have increased their share of the nation’s income from 40% to 43%. earnings gap twix 30 yr old col & h.s. grads has grown a lot! glory days when UNskilled ams could earn m.c. income on unionized assembly lines may be over. ah ha
/if hi skilled and smart make more than those w/o, u.s. is less dem and nastier. p 24 [of nswk?] takes the cake.
/r. samuelson: 7 of l0 ams don’t think am is divided twix haves and have nots. in eng 7 of l0 DO think so. redistribution isn’t pop in am. /should gov reduce diffs twix rich and poor: 36% in am say yes, but 63% in w. ger, 70% in eng, 8l% in italy. am more for oppor and the individual than [= outcome]
/movie critics on tv said hollywood puts down wc with their flics on if you make a big effort you can escape w.c. ‑ rocky. fantasy.
/ girl in brooklyn who dreamt of marrying someone with a white collar.
/inner city schools ‑ less parental involvement, more $ for disc., preventing vandalism and repariring its effects l48 free to choose, less gualified teachers
/better at working with hands.
/Hoffer: m.c. excells in mastering things, but is helpless when managing men, thus intellects arose. (?????)
Dr. Sun Yat‑sen (The Asians):
l those that “know and perceive beforehand” ‑the creators and inventers, the people of wisdom and insight who think independently;
2 those who “know and perceive afterward” and cannot initiate or
create; (don’t create and invent)
3 those that “do not know and perceive”, who like the blind, must be
led by the more knowing and perceiving. They act but do not think. This
is the largest class.
Author, using his own assmptions? here ‑‑goes on to say these became
/the rulers and the ruled. with the ruled checking the power of the ruled
/middle class shrinking by ll% said tv report 9/84 ‑ 3% moved up and 8% moved down./
/ 3 levels for tax reform, thus 3 classes?
working class build and repair, clean, manufacutre, service, assemble, collect trash, butcher, clerks, belhps, secs, messengers, tellers,
pantrymen, typists, sec guard, switchboard ops.
they don’t “practice” professions, they work, [way tip o’neil uses it] [ the movie joe] pretention
quasi pros teach, nurse, journalists, legal assist, ad writer, movie extras, pro athletes. they work for pay =? at other people’s bidding.
pros above [?] drs. lawyers, phds, shrinks, top ex, chm of bd, pols.
/ class doesn’t fit the bell shaped curve/
/88% in gallup poll claimed to be in m.c. tho l/2 has income higher or lower.
/top 2% have 38% of the wealth; bottom 20% have less than 5% ’87
richest 5% make as much as poorest 40%. in brazil richest l% make as much as poorest 50%.
/lower 0-20, mid 20-40, upper 40+ – la ll/4/87
/80’s saw l5% rise in the assets of the rich. and poor grew 9% poorer. us inc dist as perilously skewed as india’s.
/why top 5% own ___ of the wealth and bottom 60% own 5%
dem, republic, monarchy, oligarchy,
pro assoc, unions and non, /admitting blks, asians
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see divisions?
/cure all crime in slum and expect all to crowd libraries and get ged’s. 0
/should keep tabs on how much ea class, criminal, person? has cost or contributed./gov developed white mc via gi bill, fha,
/morbid egalitarianism [thus only lmc and umc/iacocca used the word crap/no mc or up wants to raise kids in tuff neigh Roseannie, Married with Children, /no matter how hi or humble said mp
/am class system, rossides [he’s 0]: l7l in us and all in indust coutnries: dist of inc, wealth, job, ed are un =. and no changes since start of indus soc. [or before]. blks and mex haven’t gained rel to whites. but jews are dispro… hi but excluded from econ? power.//
areas of in= : econ [class] soc [prestige], pol [power]. you’re set from birth. 0. p 34
/classes =arguement FOR cap & visa versa/the highly arched eyebrows
–/dumb rossides bk. sum 4l9. us falls short of ideals so why pop not more upset. ty. problem of prolonged prosperity. am class system is stabile. sig. changes are more apparent than real. class in econ terms. am soc still orged around pri prop and pri power grps. big conspiracy to control jobs and soc. 426 lower mid and wc men afraid of =. 433.
fed gov employs a disproportionate no of blks./ us took in 40 mil ims. 439 is @#$%^& uc l-3%, umc l0-l5%, lmc 30-35%, wk 40-45%, lc 20-25%
upper classes more conscious of class than lower. 455 laisse-aire ethic of rugged individualism. the classes start 454
-uc: careful atten to insure cont.. . own & control biz. secure wealth. they weather adversity.
-umc: hi inc, hi ed, hi job. hi part in vol assoc. & pol. benefit from leg… cons on econ and lib on fp and civil rights.
-lmc: small biz men, independ pros & semi pros [teachers, clergy, swers, nurses, cops, firemen] sales, clerical, mid mng. more pol than wc. big gap now twix here and
-wc blu hi skilled, wemiskille, unskilled. manual. inconsistent class, prestige, & power. [?] more unstable marriages. more distinct mas and fem roles. hus/wife gap. less civic or iq. hi hourly wages don’t always = big inc. skimming 459. few can save. live on credit. drugery or heavy exertion in wk. too many kids. wife closer to rel than hus. sig. unions protect 35-40% of wc. bias on 460 saying wc has no chance. & am blames victims.
at bottom: mex, indian, pr’s, filipinos, hillbilly’s. prost = more status than cath. some mono power [ty] up classes suppress lower ones.
/dog on the couch
/cons on fp & civil rights. gets into lot of trouble w crime, credit, and marital-fam [?] problems. & blows it.
-lc uib, abandoned mas, disabled. little assoc w ea other. worthlessness in job market. lc subculs are segments of criminal, carnival, and homo worlds. migratory workers, seasonal workers, hosp help. alcs, homos, mi’s, mr’s. dwarfs. we don’t know lc well. oeo had little impact, but legal aid helped. left out bums, criminals, druggers. [i remember visiting them renting rms in harlem apts – behind doors in desolate halls. door you expected nothing behind.] skipped last few pages
/class allows some to be limited, talented, diff
/ike, bush, dukakis vs theodore frank, ted bundy, dillinger, richard ramirez or some highly paid guy: cosby, iococa, carson [l000/hr guy being mugged by some $4/hr guy. /no subtlety in pro wrestling, monster cars, trucks
/all the junk on tv is there because some classes support it/cap depends on the enterprise of the few and the labor of many
/developers the bad guys. what about the blues that tear up the desert in off road vehicles?Sports are more popular with the masses – a .
cultural life more popular with the more educated.
/4/90 poor getting poorer due to global comp [ok] top doing better due to what? middle shrinking as able [=?] to go either way. [what other examples in hist.
/under class according to beyond the yr 2k [if I remember]: hi wel, single parent fams, male uib [dropout, crime]
/how much of the power in the mil did the top % hold
/elite: ml king, gandhi
/boss man as cop threatening blue collar justice against someone with money-on pro wrestlingbeer, k mart, lux items, lux cars, travel agencies. bunkers=sears
The working class supplies the much of the labor for the service sector, construction work, police, fire, unions?, and the enlisted ranks of the military.
/don’t forget the pecos groundskeepers who got jobs via pol and supported fams on it
/ These three can be considered the basic classes. – i dropped this concept of BASIC.
/it’s a wonderful life champions the wc.
/i remember the cmc boys setting a fire of org trees [for a rally?] and the local fire dept being called out. ray remy said they’re ticked and we should go home. [probably a ty class deal] also cops that came out of frat party next to nuns at columbia All the classes are taxed to support public colleges when those who benefit are primarily middle and upper class students.
/class diffs in the flic JOE
/mc is 60% sig w post 5/90/class discrimination/bunker= lower working class wasp 4/90 tv
/wc [roomies] sports, wk & tv. no docus. nothing conceptual like front page, docus. flics. sec guard. cashier, herm-fac. throw out things- ray. jon morrey. roofer – sloppy. parents. only guys who need to save. foreigners. see list under lease? $ mng. diet. dean. jer. lempke. michael kulicg, t. butler. t davidson. meti, fried bob glegg,
/m- drugs so blame the bldg. blow it up and all cheer/
/cap seen as an int of the cap class – flaw – as all classes like it when understanding it
/people don’t know the top and bottom – up & lc
/la 5/90 a few rich exercise great power over univs, hops, theaters, museums. lot of articles lately? bout the rich having so much.
/private schools attract the classes that have more interest in education.
/tourists
/ims use “nigger” to put em right away above someone else. lc whites too
/blu collar bars: no subtlety, no inhibitions, let it all hang out on the dance fl. all their curves. they get off
/some kind of class logic or rh – franks lawnmower
[Notice we always hear about the upper class avoiding the working class, not the other way around. But don’t working class people avoid upper class people for the same reason – lifestyle.]
-did it happen to me in pecos
/how much is a toscanni, michaelangelo worth. for, iaccoca, salk, macarther, ike
/was wc more buy am
/largest brain drain in hist was out of hungary in 56 [not jews out of nazi germ]
/you’re around bad people and you learn to talk ruff. you’re around nice bright people and you can enjoy? em more or learn subtleties? or can trust em more? -true of waxter, b&c,
/probably assumed: there is no lc. wc is poor and dying to be uc. mc fears becoming wc and dies to be uc. uc exploits, etc.
/rich main liners of art useum, concert halls, and theaters of phil. & the working class of sports stadiums, pizza joints and st corners of wc so phil.
/tim butler + are in a part of society, me and peers know nothing about
/peasants have to be farmers. they’re not working class
/gumsnappers
/class – how much is a toscanni worth, a michelangelo
/upper class blacks: dianna carrol?, james farmer?, king? strange.
/upper class hispanics: mundaray, soto, jicella, finita?,
/uc? huxtables
/did I include grammar as badge, expressions – need examples. smoking fit here? the powerful can smell their own.
/bmcwm = boring mc white men. passion impaired, [colorless], comparison shop for car polishes, file every warranty, can’t clap to a beat, wear awkward smiles. the kind of guy you hope won’t start a conversation. do boring job of running things. loyal to those in power. nit pickers. gas mileage. mid mang. glazed stares, “oh that’s interesting”. rational, hesitant. not daring. don’t kiss the woman of our choice in the canned-good aisle. no causes. as? spend time worrying about security, stability, & resale values. live in symmetrical gray houses. feel $ is wasted on poor. see envir as trade off. not against regressive tax struc as we all gain by keeping $ with those who can mng it. boring is safer. fix it mentality with obvious, familiar, rational sols. bmcwm’s look like the powerful, and so get blamed, but aren’t the powerful. can fake it but the powerful can smell their own. boredom is a sheild to hide behind. #. bunker=loud
/the wc works for wages
/can have elites in sports and entertainment & other fields, but not biz
/ the middle class is “squeezed” [by wel st from bottom, but and privileged at top – that’s must be the flaw- as they are free to get ahead, IF they want.
/d believes in ed, but does NOT ed himself
/often wondered what wc thinks of all the frills of college
/common stuff on tv [examples] shows, like radio +, the masses that watch and listen aren’t bright – anywhere. if eur wants dallas, so what
/wc – more profanity around kids
/those sch bus drivers I had nothing in common with[nix has tearful wife at side; jfk said he never would haveIf upper class Grace Kellys avoid working class Juan Garcias. Liberals call this ethnic or color prejudice, but it could be partly or totally class differences.
If upper middle class black Huxtables avoid working class Archie Bunkers, same thing.
If lighter-skinned hispanics avoid darker ones, it could be the same thing.
Some middle class blacks keep lower class blacks out of their neighborhoods. This baffles liberals; they don’t realize many middle class blacks have worked hard to get away from lower class blacks. Many don’t return to help. Liberals condemn this, but why should blacks be more than slightly more obligated to help their lower class than any other group is to help theirs?
Liberals are quick to point this out, but there is little of it. Most of it is class differences [lifestyle, style, taste, interests, outlook]. Each class has more in common with its own, sticks with its own, not out of prejudice, but of differences.
If the Grace Kelly’s of one color avoid the Archie Bunkers of another color, liberals assume this is color prejudice, when most or all could be class differences.==== misc notes on soc classes and libs ===============
/nba, football, baseball, etc. – as should have been and as entertainment was
/letting lawyers advertize
/trucks dereged in 80? and airlines.
/crime
/gas rationing
/eng only
/natural disasters
/see boon
/see soc?
/but where DO you need gov – include or not – if so include fee
Capital, labor, and goods, are free to move about.
/capitalism makes the most efficient use of money, property, manpower, skills, and education.
/our dairy quotas [tariffs?] cost us [each?] $200k/job saved: l0 times the average wage [saved?].
tarrifs
/tariffs discourage reform. us news 5/l6/88 .
/tariffs take $ from consumer and give it to producer.
/we pay double the world price for sugar. – fee
/every job we save costs consumers l00k
‑ The energy crisis was caused by gov, not by the oil industry, consumer waste, and OPEC.
mass poverty until the mid‑l8th
/gov = l-2% of us econ. vs l0% in eng ’87. us has largest free market
/us l/2% gnp is gov. eng was l0%. other modern govs l2-l5%
/cap seen as an int of the cap class – flaw – as all classes like it when understanding it
/fee? said it was not until the us withdrew its aid that s korea? and taiwan? took off. trade not aid
hist put in such a section
l2k infl – argentina.
Having been in social work, I’m interested in how the free market could help here. It seems like the subject hasn’t been touched.
[Bear with me as some of my info is spotty?]
I read there had always been mass poverty in the advanced countries until the advent of capitalism. Then began a golden age for the poor.
gives them economic clout.* 56 bpdf
– Other countries: 29 of Africa’s poorest countries have sold 5% of
their operations to the private sector. After England sold Jaguar, sales
doubled, l000 jobs were added and the company made a profit.
affordable
/where do i have info on soc’s retreat round the world.
smoot harley made depression worse?,
jb,
/mex has barely a market econ
Phase the government out of housing [including subsidizing luxery apartments].
Other examples:
Point out where unleashing free market forces has helped:
– Turkey from ’83- ’87
– Mexico in the last few years. – The Candian-US free trade pact.
– So is Eastern Europe with Poland going “cold turkey” in its conversion.
– Russian and Mozambique used to export wheat before their experiments in socialism and communism. After that they became importers of wheat. hist?
– The famines in Ethiopia have been due to prohibiting capitalism.
– The mercantile economy in Peru has been so stifling, the poor had to set up “informal” capitalism. This has accounted for 40% of the G.N.P. In the capital, it has provided 90% of the public transportation and half the housing.
Government price controls caused the energy crisis of the 70s. hist?
the recovery since ’82 – our longest peacetime boom. The longer I live the more I see how important the free market is and how the media miss it.
/hiring illegal aliens is the free market – what wages should be.
/loans to friends, prisoners
hist mil wars don’t count; it’s the econ progress that matters.
hist: ams came to believe gov creates growth. nonsense. the econ grew for over l50 yrs before any cent. mang.
– Explore the probability that business is the best charity, which would mean that any social program that works against a person’s earning a wage should be phased out.
/privatization increases the faith in those insts.
/those measures would decrease pull for il but too hard to put in
/would pri schs solve problem of schs inc based on prop taxes
/guy at some ir conf told of biz. made sense. rest talked of other things and his pts never came up. symbolic
the media – more comp, but I can’t devel thissee fee for more
make 2 articles out of this?and often finds them excessive – taxes, min wage, unemployment benefits, social security, quotas, 60 day plant closing notices, and perhaps in the future: maternity leave, health insurance, child care, and comparable worth. These cut into incentives.
– Let refugees in camps work.
, and some child labor.
/are athletes made to go thru college in some sports? it’s a joke.
malpractic insur – [covererd]
Some middle class blacks keep lower class blacks out of their neighborhoods. This baffles liberals; they don’t realize many middle class blacks have worked hard to get away from lower class blacks. Many don’t return to help. Liberals condemn this, but why should blacks be more than slightly more obligated to help their lower class than any other group is to help theirs?
/They find fault with private schools and anguish over public schools, and
====== end of notes on soc classes and libs ================= the tabloids are the moral voice of the comm. their social betters, the helping professions, have lost their moral compass
/spielberg group roseanne, cheers and cosby show together
/ethic diffs are as sig as class diffs
/more respect for blus [re life] the older I get, tho I know their limits in conceptual stuff
/finer but not better. finer arts?
/who goes to cock fights etc.Social classes
(from THE UNHEAVENLY CITY REVISITED)
Upper Middle Working
(the Grace Kellys) (the Ozzie Nelsons) (the Archie Bunkers)*
Outlook
Expect long life……. in prime in 60’s…… old by 50
Feel can shape future…. less …………… fatalistic
Much foresight……….. less……………. still less
Values
Self‑expression ……… getting ahead…….
Tolerant………… conventional ………… intolerant
Work for satisfaction…. …..
Solve by discussion, merit …. ….
Public service ……….. less ………….. still less
Privacy ……………… less ………….. still less
Stimulate kids ……….. …….. control them
Prolonged adolescence …. shorter ……….. still shorter
Kids to college ……. want them to go …… not important
73% apply to college …… 45% ………… 21%
Lower (the Cool Hand Lukes)
old by 40
totally fatalistic
radically improvident
live to satisfy impulses
work only when have to
often violent
no public service
little privacy
female headed family
neglect & abuse kids
short adolescence
little interest in school
some prefer the slums
Upper class = 8‑l4% of the population
Middle ” = 20‑3l%
Working ” = 36‑44%
Lower ” = l0‑l6%.
There is no chronic poverty outside the lower class.
wk 40
mc 26
uc 11 lc l3
0 5 9 17 24 l6 38 ? 53
all total only 89 [must be from ban]
*Characterizations added by Al Garner.
/tim sees young as l5-20 [re lib chart] as he was on own at l8. [whereas usual college crowd not on own till 22.
//all this about oppressed, etc is exact opposite that entrepeneurs do best here ???? fair?
/working class in dentist’s off: can’t stand still, taping foot to music, funny clothes. thick hair combed back. but eventually they bugged me less
/ sometimes defensive, loud, gum snappers, singing along. embarrassed.
/is country western wc?
/less educated people don’t think as logically?
/if you look at who your grew up with you can see the talent, mot, etc. and how all got what they deserved – class? etc. and kept too = too long.- meaning look at the sch class, not your crowd
/4 castes in bali. priests on top. [we’ve got em here where they belong]
/wc in touch with the real world so mature earlier – or are they supposed to? – thus wiser?, better soldiers?,
/indians in pri clubs in calcutta are more british than the british in keeping out those unqualified”
/wasps: good breeding, manners, martial virility, moral certitude.
fair play. punch bully in the nose. just wars, charity, faith.
To keep from becoming soft, 3 ordeals: spartan life at boarding sch, roughing it in the great outdoors, and fight in a war.
self-reliant. TR. loyalty. male bonding. only way to make man trustworthy is to trust him. newswk 8/90/wc hero: billy joel who said you never turned the other check in bad neigh he grew up in. he was a punk. finally grew up when he had a kid
/libs hate class wars, yet have promoted them between the working and non working poor
/see scap
/white collars know better than to use the rh and logic of that blue collar who wrote that piece.
/blus: working stiff. on the waterfront: I coulda had class I coulda hbeen a contenduh. [class to mike meant his wife always had a comeback]. norma rae. blue collar. fist. black fury. 9-5. the pajama game. i’m alright jack. a nous la liberte. modern times [chaplin]
often unions rip off workers – which is worse, unions or mng?
-class the poor are “afraid” of the finest stores. they’ll pay more elsewhere to avoid em. same with restaurants. he says the finest are the cheapest always. $%^&*()
/joe six pack
/inside edition. current affair
/mc=leave it to beaver
/ralph kramden. and his stark walk up apt. trb kingsley saying roseanne and simpsons [due to jobs] are not trad wc, but new mc. in a $%^&* article.
/mc + more involved with kids ed. lot of wc feel it’s up to the sch
/mc + more involved with kids ed. lot of wc feel it’s up to the sch
/i remember at a reserve meeting, a guy said he had to buy a new suit for a big date. dale who used to keep buying new clothes.- the term shanty irish introduced by lace curtain irish
/gum snappers
/i wanted to help carlos in some way, but then saw how many clothes he threw out
/”blue collar mc, mid am” said commander in navy. 0
/way to be one of guys in hi sch was to mess up. wc
/trash into denny’s, country kitchen at l am sat night. dregs
/sports good for l wc as disc, super, atten, tuffness, challenge, scrappy,
/bandstand during wk. super blu collar, ruff, but you have feeling they have their own rules and fun. seems to sooth em. what must foreigners think.
/cinderella for the wc?
/what is the message of: a tree grows in brkln, graziano, cinderella and other fables –
/mc = leave it to beaver – said tv
/class – stigma of being a snipe in the cg
/[crap]: war … also dispays the class “system” [0] rich men start wars and poor people fight them.
/lot of whites that settled abroad for oppor were wc.
/m.v. mall not as many 4 by’s, boom boxes, hair in face
/no shirt in a bank. undershirts
/ma says all rev’s dumped the rich. not right they cruise in yatchs when poor kids can’t get medicine. – but rich have as big a right to be jerks as the poor
/g. plimpton
/la. not good. class means boundaries – being hemmed in. crap
/us is the only major western dem whose pol parties have not been based on econ class.
/if 90s are econ issues it will be of individuals, NOT class.
People stop just short of radically [wrong word] redistributing the wealth as THEY may be rich some day.
us has always been divided by class but is not class conscious. x crap.
/bottom 5th gets 7% of income and top fifth gets 35%. la
/us not class conscious.
/80% feel mc said labor leader. also all believe in 2nd chance, horatio alger
/from 62 – 85 an unprecedented [doubltful] increase in the ability of wc kids to rise into pro and mng due to growth of higher ed. and in roughly the same period, rich
/poor gap shrunk. skimming as dumb.
/by and large the poor don’t vote. la
*/those over $70k/yr don’t feel rich.
/poor vote very little and rich vote a lot. twice as much in one white? dist as the poor in another [black] of same pop. so lib, often dem congressmen and rep govs and presidents. sig
lib policis win only thru coalitions twix poor and mc.
/when econ is up, mc says it’s up to person; when down it’s the system [a]
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/no evidence that ams harbor a gen grudge against the rich. new rep.
cop party was profane, booze, dirty talk.
/don’t class theories consol the wc
/a sch in in slum has a diff function – trades, etc.
/more and less “ed” means class, but no one wants to admit it
/a sch in in slum has a diff function – trades, etc.
/always leave out the wc
/vicky didn’t know how to take advantage of pk ave job.
/nat r: $ more sig to class in us. uc hms and clubs more $. in eng they are shavvy. st cecilia soc in charleston. verbal class dinstinctions in eng. the soc register in us is a crude index to class. with status in eng go restraints and resp of mil and cons party [to fight soc]. monetarism supposed to mean infl has a monetary cause, but came to mean materialism. thatcher says make profit so you’re free to do other things.
/can’t take the ghetto or the mansion out of either
/shouldn’t punish all the rich because of a few
/class determined by $ in am. dave caradine bit
/poles want their old nobility back
/fat in am runs along class lines. fallows ll/86 atlantic?/feel sorry for poor, wc, sometimes mc, but uc? if so never in the paper
/wc make ends meet and iq study the renaissance
/groton = the am eaton fdr went
/visible man
===== from lists ===========
There are 2 classes ………………… 4 or more
Class lines are rigid ……………….. anything but.
Classes conflict ……………………. they complement each other.
Class means snobbery …………. not really.
Class means people are unequal … equal but different [in drive and talent among the upper, middle and working classes. The lower class is not equal.*]
Classes are determined by education, income and occupation ……..
………. (false, by interests, ability, and outlook)*
Getting ahead is important …………… not necessarily.
Everyone wants to get ahead ………….. absolutely false.
If the rich get richer and the poor, poorer, something’s wrong …
….. not necessarily.
Elites are bad ……………………… not when competitive.
The upper class keeps others out ……… always room at the top.
It has more success and happiness …….. false
Anyone can be in the top … it take a family a generation to move up one class.*
Level the classes …………………… (ridiculous)*
Equal opportunity produces equal results … (extremely naive)*
It means minorities will be middle class .. be the class they want and earn.
‑ Public education is the equalizer …….. (False, it helps the upper
class, and, after the 9th grade, hurts the lower class.) *
lc
the above applies to the upper, middle, and working classes. The lower class [of bums & criminals] is diff in :
The lower class is oppressed …………… (is carried)*
The lower class can be helped ………….. (false)*
Their choice to remain immature is excusable … nonsense. dup
not equal to the other three as it choses to remain immature.]
‑ It can prepare the lower class for work and adulthood …… (false) *
= end of lists ======
The amount of wealth is limited …… a basic flaw.
When one person gains wealth, it’s at the expense of another … false.
Blame those with more wealth, pity those with less ….. nonsense
Those with more are greedy and abuse the “victims” with less … nonsense
equality
lc = beh term
/your lst speaker-phone, your lst sensor razor,
/ 1 all characteristics above [% that apply to college] from ban. p. 57-63. 2 % that apply to college from s.m. lipset, social mobility in industrial society, l95l, p. 96, a survey of white hi sch seniors.
3 banfield 287-290. %’s of pop. 4 ban l44. st paul
5 ban, 53.
6 ban l38-l40 welfare undermines the lc.
/of course hollywood etc? want you to dream with my fair lady, oliver, upstairs downstairs?, prince and pauper?, one of prince on sailing ship [spenc tracy], d. copperfield, mikes dad on riata = not refined, but fine as they come. i was never able to get the mc and uc to know what lc was like. the wc knew, but were dismissed partly due to less ed. also could never get lc to see they could make a better life. [is this true?] like vicki?
realists see four classes as natural. libs see it as rich took from poor.
/you know the classes on either side – only.
/does this apply to classes or just ethnics
/ = in voting and in mil obligation during war
becoming more = under the law
more = oppor to get ed and job than before
not = in taxes.
unequal in housing, tho housing for poor has improved?
not equal in drive and talent but a fairness here
/pros never interested in valencias. only in those with problems. psych studies abnormal beh.
/misconceptions of worth unfortunately reinforce byu “upper” and “lower”.
/don’t over tax uc. don’t tar uc and mc with guilt. don’t mislead, pity, or patronize wc. or lc. and don’t excuse the immaturity of lc. be realistic bout all., not naive,
/class and $ mng?
/”fairness” issue [= soak the rich]. but wc and mc are far less hostile to the rich and their tax breaks [pri] than they are to soc programs for poor [gov]. [I think the diff is pri vs gov !!!] d. broder see this as sad [thus biased !] l0/90 la.
-and he calls the rich, greedy
/criticizing the uc = criticizing the jap ?
/irvine: orderly, calm, etc. subdued, subtle – read between lines
/silo
/federated help: impress: bounce on feet, jiggle change, keep shifting on feet, don’t be pleasant and human but have lines, be an operator. wear strange clothes. all the answers. scorn? hard, big time
/what appeals as entertainment shows class
/good teachers and good stus need each other to function properly.
/haven’t I had a slow acceptance of fact I wasn’t in the topPeter principle: all rise to their level of incomp.. thus all val work done by those just beneath. sig
/airheads jabber away so much you never get a chance to think.
/cheaper the store, louder the music – hm club
/wc hasn’t been brainwashed
/w post [bk r] we ams try to ignore class by assuming all are mc. or when we admist class, we are cuel, hypocritical and filled with disdain toward sc. we admire dianne sayer but find donna rice tacky. we= the imperial middle = those who have made it [flaw] or think they have. ams show in ea election, they want classes. #$%^&*
/ideal: working class entertainment is no good and we have to upgrade all.
/mem day and vet day are more sig to blu collar shot and a beer guys.
/wasp = protestant patricians. andover, episcopalianism, wall st. conscience, industry, success, civic mindedness, usefulness, anti-sensuality. wasp character is the am character. but now replaced by self, ambition, gratification, group mindedness, diffidence, creativity. [aaa]
wasp left retreating to clubs and walled comms. w post l/9l
/i wonder if escape is more sig for the wc. – coney is. it must be more integrated?
/social betters
/leave it to beaver and father knows best – cited as mc
/who has louder radios
/caroll o conner said he’s met archie bunkers in all classes
/geraldo: not even worth commenting about. comes out in suit and ends up with sleves rolled up past elbows.
/geraldo. lawyer but can’t get the ghetto out of him.- the middle class is “squeezed”, [as more go into other classes &]
/can’t force ethnic groups to mix, nor classes?
/what of a horizontal class chart with criminals on sep layer below
/crummy stores: too hot or cold, loud music, slo line at check out. unimaginative help
/don’t forget where you came from
– the middle class is “squeezed”, [as more go into other classes – this totally leaves out the wc]
/ignored the wc while in c
/blu bloods give 5 times as much to college as ________
/eastenders-most pop program in engone is the drawing room; the other is the newark factory gate wall st bs main st.
/class: posture, yell, intimidate, put on a show
/people at top probably know how easy it is to fall
/libs [only?] OMIT the wc or call wc mc
/wc distinguishes more between male and female roles. tv ch 43
– country people?
/bad shapes and tight clothes
/dot said people in L.H. think they are something, but they are not. they pay alot for image, like in n.b. [pay a lot to be around own kind]
/L.H. no gum, bottle caps, order, understate, no signs, not showy, peaceful, tasteful. it’s all taken care of – not this and that jutting out, unfinished,
/mc embarrased bout mistake, wc is defensive? about it
/ wc. uncouth and surly youth
/dot said old rich not neighborly never came over at lst? nor when her ex. died. new neighbors in anh better. came over. welcome, offer to help.
/to sir with love = wc
/as you show wc several times where some countries are on a world map. they are getting ed on it and you on what little int and follow up they have
/gentle? manners? seen as effeminate
/ballets – RICH exp to be in an audience of REFINED, discriminant people*
/classes =arguement FOR cap & visa versa
/if eastenders is the most pop program, does that support claim that wc is the biggest
/top 2% have 38% of the wealth; bottom 20% have less than 5% ’87.
/richest 5% make as much as poorest 40%. must be us
/in brazil richest l% make as much as poorest 50%.
/under class according to beyond the yr 2k [if I remember]: hi wel, single parent fams, male uib [dropout, crime]
top 20% [over 56k].
/libs don’t know top and bottom. see “the pit” under skid row or sig? in file cab
/no place for classes in a dem – tv. am. tongues
/only interested in pigion english. little int in maps
/ams not hung up on class, they are hung up on denying it
/all many want is pigeon eng
/the unspokeness of all class attributesclass jim williams: bunker = poor white trash.[as p?] ralph cramdon too – poor working slob – bus driver. ed norton worked in sewer. both in bronx. his fam was. so nelsons looked uc to them. demeanor.
thot smith pic looked mc. as clothes.
class = kids listen to folks, no big problems, [how much oppor folks give their kids to rise. nelsons were a natural fam. [vs his saying $ makes class]
father knows best – uc to him. cool hand luke as lc – ner do well
lc: jame cagney in criminal flics. richard widmark in ….
godfathr. david niven and deborah kerr – uc.
lc: married with children. al’s life stopped after hi sch? wife’s a bimbo? and girl’s loose? willy horton is lc
grapes of wrath, tobacco rd, god’s little acre = lower wc. dirt farmers. who like grand old opry & nashville, as jimmy rogers sings their plight.
/uc is already forced into charity via tax bracket
/see terry
/wc tries not to sound dumb
/appearance of front of hse more sig to those of any class
/umc = 60k 7/9l
/no one is honest re all 4 classes – i’d do it with plexiglass.
/lawyers, prosecutors vs st cops. prince of city. purjery
/millionaire that financed bronx kids thru college.
/country western: pickups, prisons, heartbreak
/i assume the wc is more tired of crime
/some love declaration twix macho man and miss eliz. wasn’t there a wedding? kissing. other tacky personal private tabloid crap the aud eats up.-makes you wince
/super low class: pro wrestling miss liz declaring her love for macho man. he proposing? some kissing before. bump and grind. wedding which was ransacked?
/fam – as the tree grows, so grows the limb.
/brittany, tiffany, epiphany
/jimmy swaggert sweating thru his suit coat at both armpits, i thot it was the lighting. never seen that in my life.
/i wonder if the “truly virtuoso bravura performances” are just a classy way of freaking out. or hitting a peak
/class diffs more pronounced in big cities – neigh, outlook, reputation, lifestyle, sometimes accent
/tabloids must show something: immature, bored, limited, a need for that approach
/you can’t say the fonz is influencing people to act tuff, can you? – probably gives those a chance to see what it’d be like to be in an mc fam
/silo like fed grp – tapping fingers and pens, shaking legs, bouncing around on legs, cutsy jokes and buddy stuff,
-get hit in face with stereo
/one thing to let your place look like a junk yard or pig sty; it’s another if lots of kids have to see it on their way to sch.
/splendors of the bourgeois. ??? hitler envied em.
/many brits have more substance, polish, manners than we; vs eastenders who turn me off.
/aud – pro wrestling and roller derby
/is not looking at the front page more ty of wc?
/ru?, musak, on hold, nordstoms – weak?, tolerance: noise, litter, blight. /when gene put on a suit, he seemed white collar
/i’d never consider putting radio on roof
sport coat at thrift,
/sat night fever was definite wc – tv
/if I had a guy in rm l, he could hear gary’s radio on roof.
staples of mc: a hm, college and health care.
/do the 5 quintiles mean l=rich 2=umc 3=lmc 4=wc 5=poor ???
/bklyn, eastenders/
/messed-up ir fair at gg hi sch. irv.
/silo: tapping fingers, jiggling leg, cutsy, buddy, big deal, chomping gum, contrived, honey? dear?
/gary had big arguement on his roof
/is uc more lib?
/class diffs bigger in big cities and in older cities
/class is not longer race-specific. due to civil rights.
/which class is becomming more cons. or does so during cons swings?
/if robin hood law spreads mc and uc will send kids to priv. develop?
/which class gets more cons when things go bad [wc]
/subsidies for uc and mc? fha? ******
/country/western songs about: pickups, prison, and heartbreak.
/does one class take care of health better?
/wc more sig in small towns. of course. !!!
/people say they move for better schools is probably way of saying they moving for better everything.
/hierarchy in animal kingdomthey show [why] table which shows the higher the fam income, the higher the scores. it proves what I say. us news 9/9/9l sat scores
/privileged kids do better vs asian ims.
/out of work dings in market during day
/graceland – the height of bad taste, said maus news 9/9/9l
the higher the fam income, the higher the scores. it proves what I say. #
/eur: heavy hierarchical & exclusionary ed. highly structured class system.
/if the rich have more to protect, let THEM worry bout it, don’t tax em more.
/rita liking alex and not bloom…, nor linc cent, nor dr peale
/does wc mature earlier due to more reality
/everybody dance now. ch 28 l0/2/9l. showed the vast distance between ghetto break dancers [who chose it over drugs] and the luckier dancers who speak better. one sounded like rita.
/sp way boxers talk vs profs? add crooked
/rocky, my fair lady,
/just occured to me: some working class move to small towns where they can be a big fish in a small town – or maybe independent, creative etc.
/classes unequal but people in them equal?
/does anyone here or abroad defer to their social betters?
/wc – roseanne barr
/you never hear of the success or relevancy of trade schs.
/2/3rds of those workforce have about a high school education and are supervised at work. They don’t supervise others. thurow l0/9l tv [thus wc]
/does one class have more character?
/does one class have more character?
/easy to underestimate class like mrs. vineyard
/wc closer to reality. earlier?/more check to check dancing – wc
/graceland – the height of bad taste, said ma
/once you accept class, you don’t hve to expect yourself or class to get ahead and you don’t have to feel guilt bout those less lucky. fix. sig
/diff xmas card for pecos?
/pri lets the upper classes get ahead
populismthe distribution of income w. williams. wsw. ll/l5/9l
quintiles l947 60 72 80
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top 5th 43 4l 40 4l
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4th 23 24 23 24
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3rd l6 l7 l7 l7
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2nd ll l2 l2 ll
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bottom 5 4 5 5
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i say the “averages” are 4l, 23, l7, l2, 5%
are these fams, income earners, or what 4l, 23, l7, l2, 5%
20 6 5 7/fans at pro wrestling must feel important with their thumbs up and down in front of cameras. solicited reactions.
/wealth, prestige, power big fish in small pond for more status.
/some guy miserable on tv and geraldo get closer, puts hand on his knee, etc. had to change it.
/yuppies don’t use bumper stickers or put election signs on lawn.
/over 6l7k = top l%. 94k = top 5%. 55k = top 5th. 30k = top half. ll/9l
/rich hard to pin down as econ mobility up and DOWN. [finally]
/rossiter on class: in am it’s fluid, flex, open=ended. chief criterion is achievement [?]. ams uneasy when talkong bout it. and orators dump on the idea. 3 classes/
/it serves wc for them to call lc low life.
/wc likes soc, says al
60%? of manual laborers voted for jfk and it’s declined ever since.
/deferring to one’s social better = crap
/low entertainment tastes of traffic school crowd. -= found instructor funny and good.
/country music is the most pop. tv 9l.
/poorest gave 5.5% and richest gave 2.9% of their pers incomes.
us news l2/9/9l
/playing ball in hi sch is the hi pt in some guys lives. or traveling in the mil?
/la l2/l5/9l recession hit mc so pol want to help. mc got squeezed over last l0 yrs. said cato. just about everyone considers himself to be mc. our soc is dom.. by mc vals. nat median inc was $35k in ’90. most econs define mc as $20-$50k. but many who earn l00k don’t think of selves as affluent – espec in expensive cities. [la] [flaw] as don’t want to be taxed more for others. 2 income fams make it harder to define [???]
mc is state of mind and a set of vals, said progressvie policy inst. [close to dems]. only l/3rd of fams earn over 50k, only 3 mil earn over l00k. so not enuff rich to soak. the rich claim to vote more than those making 20-29k.
the pol mc is diff from econ mc. pols want to broaden their def of mc. which makes it meaningless ===============
/real nice people in aud of boston pops xmas program.
/traffic sch types NEED disc. is it that generation.
/traffic sch: partner who had to drive car guy peed in. aud loved it.
/why won’t uppers appear on camera.
/regil’s big 3: name, neigh, country club.
poor – 0-l3+ ’90
wc – l3-20
mc – 20-50
50 + no name for those over 50.
l/3 fams earn over 50k
those of over 70 and l00 don’t feel affluent. 3 mil earn over l00k.
/grosse pt, scarsdale, bev hills, palo alto,
/hugh down, geraldo, rosanne, donna reed, dick van dyke?, nixon, bush, rr?, audry hepburn, deborah kerr
/econs say the mc is the 60% of am in the middle of the income distribution – fam earning $l6-60k, yet in a display of mythic am egalitarianism, polls show over 90% of ams consider selves in middle. un news l/l3/92
/boxers vs wfb, plimpton,
/breakdancers
/boy out of ghetto
/pri lets the classes gravitate to their natural levels.
/mc sometimes means whites when not wanting to help the rest. often it means those outside the ny, dc, la axis of media, gov biggies, and expense account hi livers. sometimes it seems to mean the white lc. pols can’t figure out who the mc are. the media too which regularly rediscovers it. meg greenfield newswk l/20/92
/ah ha – lmc and umc. if mc = 60% of ams = $l6k-60k. how is the other 40% distributed. according to 4l,23,l7,l2,5
/wc is short sighted vs security minded re pensions Other things being equal, some of the rich would trade places with them in a minute.
/am came out of wwii what it had long wanted to be – a mc nation. [a] dems credit the new deal. reps credit wartime buildup. [?] most ams describe selves as mc, regardless of $. mc = $l8k – $74k. rich and poor are growing, mc is shrinking. us news 3/2/92 #/arm around girl in lecture/lc doing nails in class/mc is l7k – 60k p. samuelson
/a russian tried collective ownership, but found that all the workers cared about was their paycheck. pbs 2/92 now he’s a millionaire. /class: taxes, guilt, =,
/class – dianne sawyer.
. wc are principle victims of crime. wow. la/poor kids 3 times as likely to be overweight. blks heavier too. la
/lot think of selves as mc and wc. – credit-carded, mortgage-paying subruban blue collar workers./catty women. seem to have their circle. new person comes along, like nancy jackson. they critize her, but are “gracious” enough to let her in. she’s paid her dues. she has her fault, but the grand dames are generous enough to let her in. the gidget 50s./job vs career/sharecroppers who moved ea yr to find a better ll were called shiftless. a/goofs in comic store with goofy conv….
/waitress: you just want to see me reach.
/top l% of taxpayers are paying 27% of all taxes. wfb.
the enterprising class./moyers program: mc is $l5k – $70k. 92/hollywood loves to go after class, yet revere it xxxxx
/adventures of the poor man = no class
-The people in the
/max..& juarez flic shows the presumptions of the aristocracy
/fallacy of the other half
/policyspeak in pol/lc proves classes./they wouldn’t have fit at linc cent./moved to east side to get away from noise, etc. air shaft.
/tv supposed to be a great equalizer, but people sort themselves out [into what] according to their prefs. lichter
/corn pon clerics like kenneth copeland gives blue collars a chance to create their own pope. hiearchy. our of 0 as he’s 0.
/irvine = simi valley
/i think fancy places have fancy names to make them sound exotic and to discourage wc – trattaoria spiga, ambrosia, french names – lutece.
/kit larson said bj was [just?] one of us poor boys from so s.a. and wasn’t very soph. said basler was. so using soph in a diff way./festivals for wc/us vs them
/always a cutter. and after they built the college, they were put aside.
/top l% of us fams. [= over 400 fams] hold 37% of nat net worth. us news 6/l/92
/sobran implies the u-class is hooligans, criminals.
/am not hung up on the false part of class – but more open to mobility. it just won’t admit there are classes./not where you live, but how you live.
/country music is white man’s blues.
/abstract thinking/hard to imagine some roomers and applicants don’t have or use a car./beautiful, elegant grounds of nunnery? behind st. josephs hosp.
/3 comments around reunion time bout coming from so side./class – no int in logic. not conceptual. dianne sawyer.
/so called heros of the common man: fdr, huey long, cuomo?, populists, fr. cauglin, socialists?, jefferson?/ until recently one could travel lst class in paris subway. /jap: caste, hi respect for rank. in france, all are thrown together and codes of conduct fade away. a? democratization has broken down social barriers. a?
/petty bourgeoise – the lower mc. -/lower mc: envy, resentment, servility. moral conservatism, eqalitarianism, respect for workmanship, loyalty, and struggle against resentment. cons rely on these./i think the clubs I’m speaking to reflect classes – brea lions vs m.v. kiawanas wants to mix the classes. vs reunions/what does the change in the cleaver fam do to classes?/go thru reunion and put into classes for fun. keep it to 57? then and now. vs sophs
uc
keith, kyla, marjorie coomber, brenda, june, smith?, penny lyle, ralph allen,
umc
phil, al, tj?, johnny,
mc
gilmour
wc
barker, steve brooks, jenkins
lc drop outs
alex de soto, ……,
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pion, vanoye, sondra, kit, j moede, linda lou, tim clark, dave gibbs, val gish, nat glover, gary glasser, carol henson, gross, charlene, janice, judy jef, sara, jimmy leblnc, melinda, jay, dianne mott, patterson, quisling, kent s., kay pielman, pat austin, joe lynch, penny norton, maloha, ronnie ….., bill davidson, broyles, ralph placentia,
lathrop, neighborhood, $, ed, position, scouts, /their music too loud in pep boys, stater bros, fed grp./- call and they have kids screaming and dogs barking in the background/hoi paloi = common people.
/find a girl who feels like a princess and make her a queen.
/wc women will be rude to dump you, tho sweet – mel, mary webb.
/how can a BA be one of the mc credentials if on 25% of pop have it. w post 8/92 said it is./thus the myth of a classless soc is destructive. w post. 8/92 /doesn’t uc tend to be lib?/wc: obj.. accurate expression, logic,
/tight sweat pants/had to renovate pub housing, filled with wel, to attract working class people.
/sports more sig for wc?
/aud – lawyers and cops gap.
/is 7-ll a class deal?/kit felt he was a poor boy from so s.a. and no s.a. girls were too sophisticated and out of reach. j. moede was not.
/charity – what about pushing a guy into college or mng who doesn’t belong. then he comes out worse off. sig.
/don’t the wc dance closer?/Lincoln Center or to Dr. Normal/studs/dianna merril – the ultimate woman/need more modern example of ozzie and harriet. mary tyer moore?/ma: dick zalinki, kids, $
/wc has no int in for lang, accurate experession, logic?, object…
/couldn’t get shoe man to opera/sanford and son – class.
/inequalities between regions. sig. lst time heard of this./what %’s of criminals are in ea class/i hated the daily news in NY/houben’s hse in nw was shaped like box, but was elegant.
/wc must mean union/new theory from the kingfish:
/Entertainment the masses choose is pleasing, but the fine arts the few choose are uplifting. classical music, art, ballet, symphonies, historic buildings? classical architecture? radio city vs ballet [My humor is fine art.]/rich woman said you can tell which college people come from by their clothes.
/royal courts and aristocracy held sway in l9th cent. gentility came lst. in 20th power shifted to the corps. which included [?] univs. and charities. Professionalism comes lst. un news ll/l6/92/sp – we all discrim… [vs all other things being equal]
/r. brookhiser’s article in atlantic l0/92. rich wasps don’t nec think that following the well laid out path for them is wrong, but they think everyone else thinks so. they think those with less want their money, but they only want their own $.
/more respect for blus [re life] the older I get, tho I know their limits in conceptual stuff
/superdefensive wc or lc: said one of his brother’s going to college was a liability for them./linguistic imprint of one’s subculture. /southern women called terrible eng white trash or uneducated.
/the honeymooners, 328 chauncy st. bensonhurst, ny
/icream guy: no class: stereos ok, ok to let all cars in.
/what is soc position. how does it figure or fit in./ams are not hung up on class, but tend to DENY class or to look on it as undesirable. they have been conditioned to/laura and berie thot they were classy.
/…. at copymatic is wc.
/wc doesn’t stand up for itself. no one wants to admit to being a member. a. as beatles did. a wife of a mil man resented being categorized as lower mc. but NOT recognizing it lumps them with those earning 75k-200k – the mc. l0/92 w mo.
/top 20% got more than l00% of the increase in average fam inc during 80s, as bottom 40% lost ground. w mo 92
/why not docu what blu collars learn [that you don’t learn in college]
/ken said those from middle up are more competitive. sig.
/mc: mirv griffin, dinah shore, i love lucy. dick ban patten, brady bunch, others: hugh downs, geraldo, fonz.
/bob alex.. found golf too proper, too many rules. guy putting? said do you mind. they were talking.
/class status is defined by ’88 income.
up to $24k = downscale [=?]
25k-50k = midscale
50k + = upscale
source: waldrop j. “Up and down the income scale” am. demograhiscs, july l990. this from tomas rivera policy brief./the royals – show the fallabilities which means what re class?/rags to riches is better than noblese oblige in pol + bbc.
button down is waspish uc am. bush to hide it. bbc
/[rich make 8-l more than poor, re williams’ figures, vs l2-l in something I read]
/3 yrs of college and tim butler watched soaps?
/white archie bunker applies to country club vs black one.
/bob doesn’t like the etiquette of golf. the collared shirts. would like to play in sweats and t shirt. guy said, do you mind, i’m shooting.
/that mormon production vivian was at. i left. that 4th of july thing shires had./classes are inherently discriminatory. classes exist despite equality in the const. 9? classes said weirdo. uc- an employer of many. mc – teacher, engineer, tech or pro. capitalist employ workers. workers sell their labor to capitalists. mng are mc as like the other two. [if you don’t attain all your dreams, the uc stopped you]. probably many caps used to be workers.
/maslaneks are kind you want to take to where you could control the turf.
/how did peter drucker feel about this./mc is not middle.
/cul: ballet, art, sculptor, opera, classical music, lit, arch.,
/uc not better, mc not middle, wc not the only one that work, lc …
/class means DIFF. – diff lifstyle, talent, mot, outlook, tastes.
/class deal on tv. uc stu smart. wc stu was slower.
/inner city kids don’t get much super.. re sch. vs marva collins.
/umc and lmc [wc] – never even thot of it!
/from bernie’s neigh to my neigh.
/if the wc have limited time horizons, how can they be int in hist?/are there more votes in the lower classes?/wc – look at the $ the ed system lost on tim butler and steve monteque,
/get b.a. and move into mid class. tv
/uc=ll%, mc=66, lc=l4. these are averages. total is 9l%. umc = 26, lmc = 40. from ban./see elite and class in dict of ideas/bob a said rich, mc, poor. mc gets along with all. rich only with selves. poor too cept for those who give em stuff.
ban
/class: patterns of perception, taste, attitude, and beh.
obj criteria: income, ed, job.
subj criteria: attitudes, tastes, values, beh.
position in a deference hierarchy.
manners, consumption, child-rearing, sex, pol,
psych orient toward the future. present and future oriented.
lc: impulsive. improvident. irresp.
formed by adolescence?
emotional, linguistic, cognitive patters.
correlation twix iq and socioecon status
uc abstract: comm, nation, mankind. self-respecting, self-conf. great val on independ, curiosity, creativity, happiness, developing one’s potentialities. manners. internal controls. tolerant. rights. settle by merit and rational discussion. deplores bigotry. fam line.
frontier brot rugged individualism.
mc umc: express oneself. stimulate kids
lmc get ahead. [i sure don’t like this split; i think wc should be in it]
wc luck. not big on getting ahead or expanding horizons. obedience. control kids. auth. intolerant. bigot. violence and brutality up to a pt are masculine. sees mc as lacking this. and sees uc as feminine. deep attachment to fam. visits rel more than friends. vacations at crowded resorts. joins for companionshiopa and fun more than for serv. highly conventional.
lc buys things too big for his budget: tv etc. is careless with them. values only what he can consume. if tv breaks due to something minor, it stays broken. doesn’t vote. mh. violence. lc cul more attractive to men./animal service guy in mission viejo looked lot smarter than ones here.
/clerk dragged lenses across scanner. at thrifty
/rank and file must be blue collar/bob wanted college, but talked of wooshing flies away./top cops – drag it out forever. no iq
/many poorly prepared youth get low cost college oppors & soon drop out as can’t do the work. sig. w post l/93
/sch pulls dumb ones. gets criticized, then overly defensive./marge on classes. wrong sub? all better.
service is syn with blu collar. they get paid less than production [which must be blu]. /pop said we were very mc/audry hepburn
/sp. thus slowly coming to think that just go for rich, mid, and poor/l50 mil ams are mc us news 93 35 mil aged recipients of ss.
/l50 mil ams are mc us news 93 that’s 62% if total is 240. 90 mil left over. /service sector: stores, banks, airlines, restaurants, utilities. r. samuelson 2/93
/far more easy come and go with wc/divorce is $$. abandonment is a poor man’s divorce.
/gap growing as skilled being paid more and unskilled paid less. thurow 93/no official def of mc. but 30k-l00k is mc said clinton. am thinks of itself as mc. p jennings. 2/93 what is l4-30
2/93 pov is about l4k. murray says lo inc from there to l7.5k [l25% of pov] above that is mid income. but jennings said 30-l00k is mid income.
so gap of l2.5. par for the course/peter principle/gap growing as libs let the bottom get away with all./more respect for blus [re life] the older I get, tho I know their limits.
/kent’s prep sch buds all went to c. l00% folks don’t spend that kind of $ to see em stop after hi sch.
/how to tie career counseling in with wk – so they don’t learn it all and take and keep wrong job, oblivious to the cc they’ve done./class and job tips: beth vs coleen
/al sharpton is anti blk mc. he bugs me less.
/traffic 2 under class?
/wc takes less initiative?/class not sig until you see lib ideas.
/more horn honking at mc sch/asian kids here more prime and proper – bow in the hair, little sailer suit, nicely done hair, manners – vs crumb bums in raggedy sloppy outfit. mc sch.
/gov is stratifying society with projects, wel, ent zones, zip codes?, quotas,
/the neigh you live in has SUCH an influence on you: baker st, c, lena, col univ, e. 50th, cap hill, nw, /linda s. got video cam [instead of ibm]
/merchant class
/umc: soc is to blame. ban sig. thus guilt.
/mc horrified by child labor, wc was not. saw mc as meddling.
sig. tv
/bernie = example of how much a person doesn’t know.
/blues go out to dives and have their own kinds of fun. moose, church.
/lack of initiative/jogger goes by with thick flattened nose. boxer? feel sorry for him.
/ed duncan, macro econ for fema: eur sees it as lifestyle. asians as ed. ams as money (shallow).
/rough around the edges regular joes Nor does it mean they are happier; I have known working class and poor families of enviable happiness.
/bl mc [vs poor]/see scap?
many of the hispanics that have immigrated to the U.S. are from the poorer classes and
/(Liberals do the same in education: no one is supposed to get ahead unless everyone does.)
Justice
With courts backlogged, those who can afford it turn to private mediation, arbitration, and “rent-a-judge” arrangements for quicker and cheaper settlements. Liberals say this is unfair. True, but it takes some of the load off the courts; and isn’t it be better to let some get ahead through private means rather than insist everyone suffer through the judicial system?
/uc is lst to leave cuba or viet or hong kong, or calif, or la, etc. they don’t need borders. cap supreme.
/average atten span is 7-l0 min. thus races in colesium geared to that. and pro wrestling? shorter?
/mex moved into cute anna’s and tony’s – l4542. they took arbor down, tree down, fence down, didn’t maintaing lawn usually, car parts on drive, test without muffler, booming stereo weekly./wm mall gen music up and in a number of shop too. cheapo city./yuppies supposedly have to be perfect: drive bmw’s or mb’s. clothes, etc. irvine is plastic? no individ character – a giant monopoly bd. conformist./eaton – trad for sake of itself. $l8k/yr. all male. [kid born right time of yr] reminds me of doug gibson.
/those who came into grp: melinda, ralph, joan wheat?
/uc= powerful, influential,
/older you get the more you appreciate growing up in a good neigh [floral park]/class. ingrid bergman.
/wealthiest 40% get 67% of the nat. inc. w mo. aug 92
/kit larson used sophisticated to mean money as means of access to things? exposure to cul? materialism.
/cdm: clean, quiet, safe despite dim lighting, no one took a 2nd look at me, orderly. walkway, tasteful, refined, shops like ny, good looking women into market, reserve,
/princess? liz oxenburg? daughter on dallas.
/eng, tech, pro – mc. lc- blu. 3 part of ea 3 classes. another way is caps and wrkrs. but mng are both.
/ghetto talk of break dancers: show, defense, put on, jive, manuevor, get over, survive.
/uc as the powerful, infl.
/audry hepburn: quiet assurance that is in-born rather than acquired. reminded us a woman’s true attractiveness is revealed in her grace, composure, iq, and honesty. Her eyes wer large, thotful, capable of wonderful merriment. like greta garbo, what men saw in other women when they were drunk, they saw in her when they were sober. ravishing smile, effortless high style, an elegant and warmly human woman. c champlin/edifying to be in an audience of REFINED, discriminant people at the ballet
/income spread of w. williams confirmed by la 4/ll/93.
/eng. not a melting pot, but a wedding cake. those not in uc’s [didn’t define] accept their lot. more question sys now. way they talk, walk, dress. from for sec doug hurd to michael caine -cockney. thatcher pushed for merit, smarts, tuffness, not birth and connections. commerce was seen as slightly impure and grasping for weal was rude. gov pegs by job:
a and b for pro or mng. }mc [xxxx]
c1 for whit-collar, }mc
c2 for skilled blu,
d for unskilled,
e for subsistence.
70% think of selves as wc, tho 59% are. they leave sch at l6. coal miners expected their kids to mine. am miners wanted better for theirs.
eng never had a rev. the bluest of blu bloods are the dukes. 23 of em. they rank just below royals. some can look down on royals as gaudy and neuveau riche [& germanic]. brits defer; ams don’t. 20-30 yrs ago 86% of brits thot monoarchy was something to be proud of. only 26% today. less respect for leg, cts, csc too. [like us] w post may 3-/93/the rich who don’t have to work have problems: relationships, feeling used, finding lawyers, accountants they can trust, isolation, low esteem if it’s inherited. being able to walk away from any difficulty means not learning conflic resolution. heir fear losing $ as they’ve never made any. rich are in the closet as no one sympathizes with em. guilt and embarrassment. causes spouse to lose esteem./3 times as many rado stations play country music as top 40.
/cheap entertainment: sleeze, sex, danger, hype, exploitation, kids, blood sports, humiliation, pressure.
/country music thrives on hard times
/radio shack is razz, hype, cluttered, noisy … their workers are NOT classy. shades of silo. hate em/bottom 5% ims? youth? minorities.
/average fam was wc during the times of the ralph kramdens. now the average is mc like the keatons of family ties. reason. aa 93
/class is power
/wasps – once accustomed to privilege and resp. old money. the code: charming, reliable, civic minded, principled, common touch, pay their share, a gentleman must seem not to try too hard. bravery, scrifice, loyalty, and service where invigorated in battle. rise to the occasion.
but can be narrow, nasty, aimless, alc. from entrepreneur to consevateur to rotter. noblesse wasps are principled like elliot richardson [fired by nixon]. weak wasps flip flop. noblesse wasps have a common touch and talk to princes and paupers the same. weak wasps go native. noblesse pay their share; weak fudge. bush is wasp rot. war and crisis loosen the restraints of pedigree. old line boarding schs emphasized excellence, leadership, sports, piety. the women could escape by scandal [love] or mh. secret was that life for the men depended on the women. by hippyish author. w post. 93/chet said conforming soc in kc. bk on estab. said outside irish catholics back east, most is wasp – presbyterian and epscopalian./brainless ice cream truck music. loud in pep, stater-fed grp/the key is tall elegant? shade trees, landscape. victoria. live in a jungle.
/classy floral park – relax after you follow the program.
/you raise your voice to some and they think they are going to be hit. as raised in that kind of fam.
/tina a bit of a grace kelly –
/pep boys, stater bros – music too loud. hm depot p.a. is too paniced, muffled, distracting. too many ask you how you are. elevator music only.
/phillips academy at andover, mass. it’s called andover?
/you’ll find us rough, but you’ll find us ready./wc more fragile? calling back racetrack guy re lc
/sp: if you can rise, you can fall/lc too friendly and uc take forever to know.
/ my sch, neigh. which won’t keep asians.
/how does solid mc fit with 40%, 23, l7, ll, 5.
/NOT a fancy neigh: library, sch. fed grp, mall?
/oc deputies are 0 on ice cream t, dogs, stereos,/letting truck run for 20 min at 6:30 am.
/lo to mod incom people give more time and $ to charity. minority grps are among the most generous.. la 93
/i wonder if the repairmen in these neighbs aren’t worse./sloppy attitude bout sch is a bad sign. it probably carries over to crime, etc./meritocacy – those who rise econ and soc due to superior ed tather than fam $ or pedigree. it overemphasizes ed. more in c after wwii for 30 yrs from lower brackets – gi bill. but swinging back to more from $ now. us news. 8/93/world divided twix those who pay their bills and those who don’t – menkin.
/seeing gene burpo in a suit finally.
/stare at you in mc.
/teacher in pecos w/o front teeth. telesfor roybal.
/wider lanes for turning in bad neigh as dummies.
/a bunker is a foreman on a loading dock.
/kissing your kid on the mouth.
/rich richer etc, vs 40% & 5%
/40% & 5% = fams or individuals?
/man of the people: masses vs elite. [depends who’s right]
/mc: father knows best.
/syria has l0% rich and l0% poor. & no hmless
/are the wc victims of crime more often?/tabloids go for 70% accuracy.
/study said rich in chi get better protection than poor. cops denied it. tv 93 gipson said same in sw s.a.
/wf buckley comes across as an elitist.
/elitists feel they know better than the voters.
/keith likes married with children/[lib?] critics worry that voc-ed stus take easy academic classes. [of course dummy, they’re wc] us news 93/jews and rednecks let you know right where you are.
/wc needs & likes rel. uc doesn’t care./wc had little int in fp.
/if you can accept the wc as = or worthy, etc, then, you don’t have to worry./the amount of TRAINING i’ve had to do: slam doors, cupboards, messes, noise, – geo, mingo, steve3/i never think that wc missed the good boola boola. that must compare with never having lived back east? or in a big city, or abroad, /tenant said you see the fine honies at dmv cause they HAVE to go./mil – sully wishes he’d gone in for 2 yrs and NO meetings. /honky tonk/mc kids played cry wolf. stupid. got me all worried. interrupted sig program. 93
/wc and uc hate the mc in eng, said tracy ulman in some bit./mcglaughlin said wc vs mc.
/one of the worst words is exclusive said robert frost, as it moves you away from humans./manners among the uc make a pt of NOT offending vs wc let you know where you stand/wearing wedding gowns on tv. looking for men and get offers from aud.
/flirt expert on tv. 93/little asian kids dressed and taught to act more like stus, innocent kids, kept up, groomed, 93/why don’t the tanners sweep the gravel off their front walk? how can you raise kids in a place like that?-letting grass grow on gary’s fence/the more affluent parts of oc have more self help grps? sig. coda./wc with 3 yrs of c – tim butler. and steve with l.5 yrs.
/gahda not having an int in hearing bout her pa, geo.
/how does cap affect the classes/living in a good neigh does a lot for you – lena, vs upper.
/dot not happy in lag hills and very in k mart./bad neighs, thrift stores, people are too loud, crude, stand too close, pass by too close, try on stuff right there, check cashing places. all run down. discount stores, junky cars, surplus stores, out of work types. crossing in middle of blk. overgrown lots, storefronts, semi gang types sitting on cars, shirtails out, scratching, spit, wel office, crossing against signals, mormons on bikes. polluting cars. people counting out pennies, or holding up the line, music too loud. collection agencies.
/tobacco rd.
/what % of time of cops does lc consume.
/gal in the shed here is cute, but super blue collar. you realize how limited some people are. but they have the wisdom of the common man./try to find a decent tailor in this neigh
/rising tide lifts all boats [unevenly]
/uc jog more?
/silo – goof off help. same with sec. can’t dress or serv. rabble in there for sales. don’t move out of way. airs. dumb. dk prices. dk how to calculate.
/kulaks/fed grp, silo, wells fargo/day time talk shows – montel, etc./silo: guy points in front of another. arm was 4 in in front fo his face. brot bike in store and up to display. and loud bout can’t get a job after lay off after 26 yrs.
/ed parallels lifestyle – ag.
/trouble telling directions. so she didn’t take freeways.
/wc swear more in front of their kids.
/towns like lakewood co-opt ed the wc by calling it mc. told life was easy. and sluffed off. pitons of class: sexual bravado, patriotism on one’s sleve. sports oriented cul. idealization of teen males.
/in the 80s real incomes for the wealthiest hh’s rose l7% vs 4% for mc and 5% for those at bottom. w post 3/93.
/i wonder if they use remote control less? the middle class is “squeezed”,/list the auths i’ve called in bad neigh.
/amazing that pat5 + don’t know directions – no. so, e, w.
/better care of health?/can a wc white resent ims
/of the 40%-5% how many moved among those?/top 2% pay 30% of all taxes and supply most of the $ for job-producing activities.
/aud – teeth straightened?
/bob alex.. said wished he could have gone to c, and you feel for him. but get to know him better and conclude was he really suited?
/couldn’t dream of answering a question. kept getting off the point and wasting my time.
/give boxsprings to benny. he bangs wall and door.
/way I talk to mingo and cheri has to be less abstract. does suzie charlton and other do same with me? & mary fisk.
/pa said owner of iron horse used to get taken by lc workers no boom box cars, etc./have to be able to agree with roomers on what their and your class is. sig./see rich/down in irv. anteseptic but no grubby teens. understated. no big signs.
/mil fams have less status.
/hi brow. low brow.
/spoke of blus and mc as sep. tv
/pg county v. mont. county.
/fat gal and limited guy in k mart. you realize it’s good job for them. as high as they will go. and don’t need to be saved.
/mc = more parking in front of store, on red, etc. as order doesn’t mean as much/back to my neigh is depressing on easter.
/people are kind about lo iq, and sp patterns of some boxers.
/lcn all talk at same time on talk shows. no basic civility.
/accent in australia depends on where your educated. said one of em.
/parade of lc thru here when renting.
/sitting in nice restaurant, mother’s day – olive garden, in l.h. and seeing nice people come in. clothes, [iq], some refinement, etc. then coming home./chicken/egg. which comes lst – keeping ones place up or $.
‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑ @b bad:
A social class: a category of people similar in socioeconomic status. All societies larger than nonliterate tribes are characterized by an unequal distribution of material goods, prestige or honor, and power. hierarchy. MARX, “The history of … society is the history of class struggles.” “free man and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild master and journeyman.” why quote him right off?
since the French Revolution, societies have abolished political and legal distinctions of rank and privilege.
Classes in this usage are contrasted with the hereditary estates of premodern Europe, the CASTES of traditional Hindu India, and free and unfree groups in societies where slavery has existed. Social classes in the modern world coexist with equality before the law and the right of to move from one class to another. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weber regarded the European ARISTOCRACY, surviving as a social and political force after it had lost its legal and economic privileges, as a “status group”.
four main classes:
-an upper class of owners, managers, and top public officials;
-a middle class of nonmanual white‑collar workers and owners of small businesses;
-a manual working class;
-and a lower class, or underclass, of the irregularly employed and the rural poor.
In noncapitalist or state socialist societies,
-the upper class comprises the political elite and industrial managers;
-lower nonmanual workers form a middle class;
-manual workers are below them; and
-a large farm population, including collective and state farm workers in the USSR, is at the bottom. @b
Social classes presuppose a certain consciousness of belonging, but they are not clearly defined groups with well‑marked boundaries. No one, as it has been stated, is a card‑carrying member of the working class. [why them?] Furthermore, awareness of class may vary widely from society to society. The greater sensitivity to class accents and manners in Britain as compared with the United States, for example, is largely a heritage of the past that survives despite the basically similar economies and forms of government of the two countries. [0] In such countries as the United States and the USSR, which are strongly committed to egalitarian ideals, class consciousness may be diffuse and expressed obliquely in such phrases as “our kind of people,” “the higher‑ups,” or “just ordinary people.” @b
Bibliography: Calvert, P., The Concept of Class (1985);Furbank, P.N., Unholy Pleasure: The Idea of Social Class (1987); Giddens, A., The Class Structure of the Advanced Societies (1973): Heller, Celia S., ed., Structured Social Inequality: A Reader in Comparative Social Stratification (1969); Lenski, Gerhard E., Power and Privilege (1966); Parkin, F2ank, Class Inequality and Political Order (1974); Rossides, Daniel S., The American Class System (1976); Vanneman, R., and Cannon, L.W., The American Perception of Class (1987).
/pa said sloppy places attract sloppy help – that lumber yard where I got the celetex. in the United States, where class is largely defined by economic success.
Elites ‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑ @b
Elite is a term applied to those individuals or groups in any society who exercise power, possess superior wealth, or enjoy elevated status and prestige. In everyday use, elite contrasts with the masses and is sometimes used synonymously with upper‑class. Elite as a concept, however, is more specific and designates a particular group or individual that enjoys high status, is wealthy, or controls major institutions in contemporary societies. @b
-how various elites‑‑military, religious, political, and intellectual‑‑were internally organized and related;
-how they perpetuated their power, wealth, and status; and
-how they [the diff fields?} replaced each other over time.
European fascist movements transformed democratic states through elitist doctrines.
The central debate about elites was over whether the elite was
– singular or
– pluralistic [my interpret..]
/blu collar at johnny jays. same rules but not fancy. wear anything. less discreet? less subtle. get away with more. /cheri didn’t know peoria, her hm town, was the center of mid am./iq’s don’t understand that masses like tabloids. believe talboid tv IS the news, etc.
/t called uc grandees who didn’t know what life was like as hadn’t been thru it.
/elitist vs meritocratic and open./people drove by water shooting up at bus stop without saying anything.
/why didn’t the tanners ever put tarps on their fence.
/michael caine. = wc
them that has, gets./steve jacobs – his family was rich and refined. /they didn’t like my channel changing during the 2 weeks in summer.
/vita craft girls/decent people down in ft val – los caballeros.
/letting your kids scream bloody murder next to senior citizen apts./alc worse for indians; so what’s worse for others, like vice for poor.
/ irvine, safest, gray water.
/man of the people: masses vs elite. [depends who’s right]
/geo sanders.
/title: social classes – equal but different
/rank and file/class in china: lst iq, then farmers, non farm workers, and last biz. as wanted bur to be lst, then agri. and suspected biz.
/title: social classes – equal but different
/wc raises as many good kids [%] without all the fancy degrees. a. just like poor people in the 3rd world./I’ll have the fans blowing air thru the house. guys come in, go into their rooms, and shut the doors, when leaving them open, and using their fans to blow it out their windows, would cool off their rooms in minutes. no common sense. thus it doesn’t bother me that some don’t get ahead and others do./you get to love the wc as they put things simply. not posturing, hung up on ego, fancy talk. they are real.
/ teeth straightened?
/wc prides self as being kicked around.
/ people that don’t know directions./prospect for rm had lic suspended twice for driving w/o insur. 3 yrs probation now. rides bike. 27. said being dad of 8 mo old girl has changed him. her ma is his girlfriend./if thacher was bugged by the classes, they must be formidable./4rd close call on bike. dark clothing at night. i said something. no response.
/the bell curve over $l00k is affluence. 94 [libs say ] pov causes low iq. murray says/c. murray says: lower iq’s are more short term oriented. sig [so that’s how you have to deal with em]
/recording keeps coming back on for those with short horizons?/recording keeps coming back on for those with short horizons?/uc and mc NOT more privileged if it’s a matter of int.
/geo plimpton/why go to sch; you’ll just be picking oranges./sig wc stus probably drop out of academic schools more than trade schools./east vs west of newland. no and so of hazard on purdy.
/worse neighs don’t go for trees. or landscaping. and cost is not a factor.
/nit pic vs what’s normal in classy neigh./one of the bobsey twins asked how the bubbles got in the boiling water./correlation? among: crude, iq, class, maturity, job skills, of domingo, cheri, etc./maslaneks liked their furn right off. i didn’t.
/wc prides self as being kicked around.
/trying to write up an accident report for herman. super hard.
he couldn’t figure out what happened or how to express it. forever. rh?
/social classes are social DIFFERENCES/tabloids: bigger than life = cruder than life. lower and lower, trash, but they are interesting studies of class./gude went in my car.
/working class is more real. more games with higher.?
/gleason said only? kramdens in brklyn. not a lot of ability, but keep trying.
/ridiculous that the vanderbilts, astors, etc. spent so much trying to outdo ea other. if bio was right. l/95/tony randal, dick cavet ==========================================================
/5% claim to be under mc. 22% lmc, 58% mid mc, l3% u mc. l% uc thus 93% id selves as mc. median = in the middle. median inc has been round $37k since 80. many econs think mc is those from 30% below to 30% above. [the 3 mid quintiles] thus $l7k – $64k. but most ams believe it goes up to 75k. w post l2-94-l957 most is on aud.
/guy at lib tank said mc rely primarily on wages for income.
/class less sig here as no fuedal past. we reject class as an ordering concept. [toqueville found our pol very common]
Claritas inc has 62 grps for marketing.
/3/4th men lack ba’s and lost l2% in average real incomes since ’79. w post l2-94-l957 ===============================================================
/the terms rich, mc, poor, are very vague and flex. $l4k+ fam of 4 = pov line, but some say too low, others hi as leaves out stamps, etc. 60% of poor kids get wel. [& rest?]. half the single mas on wel wk. quintiles [roughly]:
income % of fed inc taxes
-l3K – l.l%
-24 – 6.l%
-38 – l2.4%
-60 – 2l%
+. – 59%
those over $l00k = richest 5%. and pay what %?
/the lower 3 get 20% of the benefits ea, the upper 2 a little less. middle grps feel they’re paying too much. w post 94-5.
=======================================================/uc gets to hm depot earlier?
/agapito got off boat at lst island and saw the peddlers and staying on the boat the rest of the trip./with blu: no resume, grammar, maps, news, horizons, int in deeper parts of travel.
/when celebrities are out, those with no class bother em.
/glasses in l hr/music so loud at kmart, i couldn’t think.
/in eur, it’s birth; here it’s hard work and merit, said newt.
/diff vocab for some: sweet meant sickeningly sweet to rebecca. soph meant the kennedys to myrna./mission viejo mall/i say lower working class fams gen not terribly interested in ed. a
/rebecca said jobs should go to people who need them, not to those with lexus buying frills, who maybe should spend more time with fams. she’s uncomfortable at fashion is., but not at so cst plz./it’s libs that stigmatized the wc/wc class KEPT from trades by c oriented hi sch.
/some of these blue collars are slack on MANNERS. – cor, rebecca, /irv has lowest drop out rate 2% in us; sa has highest 36%. l0/92. from irv to sa: then potholes and few trees
/guy calls up for rm – hard as hell to understand him – no interest in sensible communication./tongue in check/class – will say uib in eur is ridiculous./wc less good at abstract reasoning?-have to SEE everything./daytime tv: aud as bad. want to see a fight. kind that go to cockfights, dogfights. blindfolded. aud booing. scum. hooting.
the lst BONANZA program had loren green as a down an outer meeting the swedish actress who later played klaus [in benson] she sure had chracter.-reminds me of barb/talk shows show the lower classes.
/talk shows on tv. shocks: person already married, but solve it and float off on cloud in 4 min./preview of flic on tv and roomers here in liv rm were hooked.
/peter principle/i think the wc includes the poor. that’s what ban does.
/what does ban do about white collar criminals re lc./cheap: ricki lake on picking up people at bars, etc. such insecurity.
/what does ban do about white collar criminals re lc.
/country music mems of mont country better than pg county./music RIGHT over your head in dr. joyer’s off.
Some want to be executives, some want to security guards. The executive isn’t “better”; he’s different./kid falls and cries; parent yelling at him to distract him and talk him out of feeling bad, cause he can’t stand it himself. stupid as kid is overloaded already. same as suzie, john and staple./field workers who spend fortunes on quinciera to not appear stingy./cliff robertson’s wife. dianna merril.
/stratification – hierarchy. no substitute word listed. implies layers,
/way a couple danced was almost violent. his girlfriend ate it up and was all over him at the end of the dance./groliers? said most famous class theorist was marx- also said 3 classes: leisure, middle [bourgeoisie], working./those that have, get.
/dianna merril – dau of e.f. hutton
/like attracts like.
/if you don’t believe in lower class, turn on a few trash tabloid tv shows.
/one of the virtues of the wc is cs !!! beCAUSE they’re not highly ed.
/fine honnie in downhill racer – tina type./i’ve noticed the classier neighborhoods value trees and landscaping more than the blue collar ones. it’s not so much a matter of money as taste./less ed people are less accurate in their speech: cor, koubeck/sue hensley said irv is quiet, orderly, but strict – drips on drive, etc./the hoy paloy = common people.
/everything is upper montclair, etc. never lower./a more stratified soc. produces the madona/whore complex. ag/covina optimists – you can see how they cope./gal said blue collar guys are sexier and more fun. tv
/class: can’t just have music on hold. have to keep hearing same reassuring message./reporter said unions made working class people mc. sig. tv 95
/uc certainly are not interested in seeing their women as sex objects in public, whereas with wc it’s ok. ag/understated, subdued, refined, controlled [in a pos way], subtle
/just thot: white collars like to live thru blue collars./merlin and bob thot they wanted families [can’t afford em]*/30s: government was to produce something tangible, visible,
usable for the ordinary working‑class ‑‑ now called middle‑class ‑‑
/get so sick of shit, i don’t know if I ever want neighbors again./p wilson: the great thing about am is that unless you know you’re poor or rich, everybody think’s they are mc. /no one ever credited the wc with better health due to exercise. they only sot to pity em. vs they don’t watch their health?/tenants didn’t come out of rms when smoke detector went off./dianne sawyer – class.
/blu collars must get more exercise and be in better health than white. and live longer. spec which jobs – mailman? shoveling, loading.
/spoons let jarhead play his thumper
/at the opera and ballet, the upper class lets down their hair. /gov christie whitman was underestimated as she was polite.
/can judge a co by its computers and how often it upgrades./to sir with love – class, disc,/wc doesn’t have a great int in learning.
/jeanie francis/urban cowboy started the mass interest in country western.
/a tenant, domingo, age 38, in the us for l0 yrs., doesn’t know how to multiply or divide, and hasn’t take the interest to learn. incredible./some ceo’s earn l20 times as much as factory workers. 95
/wc is provincial?
/things sublime: moks, cr, ballet,
/guy here leaves his room unlocked all the time. also has bad credit and bot new car. will take him 5 yrs to pay it off. not smart./colin powell/never point out wc get exercise/cdm: great neigh.
/crowded good neighs of cdm or whitney’s apts. and NO noise, NO noise at all./shrubbery in alley
/thumper box – you can be sure the asians are more civilized./shaker hts.
/having wc vote counters fatal conceit of pros, but wc can be seduced by soc.
/c kids riot more than wc kids?
/no one credits wc jobs with exercise.
/trouble with class re tj, phil, huggins, pecos, cubans?/subject giving me hell/wreck in front: 4 cops, 2 fire trucks. on at side of wreck, cones in back, 0 i front. that’s why i like to be in charge.
The working class is oppressed, and the “underclass” is “trapped.”/well linda, mother of cory, lived with some gals, next to some guys back in the 70s. great luck as they all had some of their best times before settling down. you feel happy for them as they didn’t get to go away to college./north on purdy [wm] trees. look south [mc] few trees.
/soc gospel. then? progressive mov. it was mc. and anti booze and child labor, but wc liked both.
/feel sorry for limited? meter man. i feel sorry for lots.
/even if you work, why not save by having breakfast at hm./talking to chet brot it all hm – class. sig.
/not bright vs switch back and forth twix languages. pecos.
/LL seen as parent. said tuttle of kiawanas.
/fewer trees on riata
/93% feel mc vs ban.
/wwii created the mc. gal on mcneil lehrer 96
/johnny jays is whole diff world. don’t pass judgement too fast.
/wc are not curious.
/wc are not curious.
/must be a defensiveness in spoons idea to throw a louder party to pay back someone who turned him in./sandi too revealing/all these big words; i’m just a simple mum.
/country westerners have some stake or credentials in a hard life.
/cliff as wc but no bum
/being an LL ‑ people don’t appreciate what they don’t pay for. lower rents bring worse people. not used to better things.
/wrong subjects at dinner/dot found lag hills snobbish, but didn’t score elsewhere so that means what? anything?/Kimberly, Milicent, Whitney, Kendall, buffy, brittany, /wc doesn’t like beggars. ny. tank. sig/’tour’ of lb naval sta. guy in short pants, which had holes. could see his underwear. others loud, profane.
/should put sign: kids: you may take 5 apricots each from the grass; please don’t touch tree.
/what’s idiocy to you is normal or 0 to them. standards./reports of low test scores don’t mention the folks.
/gene burpo and others? end up happy as sec guard.
/ed mounce/car auction on harbor: shades on, TERRIBLE volume, rag in mouth speed talk over sig info. carni, whistles, yelling, jumping, stupid, insane,-auction place couldn’t dream of having all their info in writing. workers there had a hard edge. all that volume you wouldn’t expect in calif./boop reacts/class? meg and colleen/clean driveways/spoons front lamp
/vascetomy. the woman counselor had bad acne. kind of felt sorry for her./people with less class seem to have dumb recordings on their ans machines/mex who took tony and anna’s hse. has one of best lawns – soyas. now lot of crab grass. took down fence, arbor and bouganvillia, cars! dogs,
/guys sit there with their arm around their girl.- or hold hands on tv talk show./boop’s ans machine, dumb music, dumb voice messsage over music/gary saved on thinner shingles, but blew it on custom windows and aNOTher tex coat +. $6k.
/tv tabloid can’t tell story straight – have to jerk you all over.
/m.v. got cable modem far ahead of wm./i ford at a so so place. real uneducated guys who will tell you anything. /auction !!!!/diff twix linc merc dealer and cars l0l/lanscroft/so dumb, they stare at you nr hayden sch/telefor roybal – teacher with ba and missing 2 front teeth/i used to play chess with a guy in d.c. he beat me EVery time, every single time./nobless oblige: privilege entails resp.
/the excesses of great wealth.
/lc towing yard not smart enuff to put the huge barking dog on a rope in the back.
/ireland: those with more land married later and not as often. those with less land were married earlier and more often.
/m thormsbee – the subtleties of class/wc – fatalistic.
/aud some wc guys consider uc guys effem…
/crowded bad neigh is noisy vs apt cmplx where whitney stayed./now is it me deciding what’s best for them? the usual lib trip. i say no; it c.s. ???????/a bunker afraid of anything he didn’t understand
/some people calling about the room are dumber than dumb./one roomer just grad.. in pysch. gave him my article, said read it few times then quiz me as this info could save you great anquish in future. did he do it? no. /drink and do drugs while pregant./guy didn’t know if he was on north or south side of st.
/son gets arrested and he and ma go nuts, my baby,
/viet jerk sat on my book at kien’s; didn’t say sorry/wc thinks it’s up to teachers [which makes sense in a way]; vs upper middle class gets involved
/olivia de havilland
/dumb woman with kid in tricycle toy crossing st. she should ahve taken kid in one arm and cycle in another.
/uc very understated, lc – macho camacho/bob alex said if he had had a kid, he could have found out a way to raise it. bs. as he can’t mng $.
/wc has less sense of prevent.. main …. ?/debbi of bill ryders oc off: it’s influx of [lc] from all over last l0 yrs: merchants don’t scrub walks or parking lots any more. 7/97/told guy in market to pull his pants up. 97/people in ma’s area nicer, more discerning.
/prospect for rm expected to have his kids over every 2 wks. he also called at l0:45 and wouldn’t get that that was a bad idea.
/stupid fry’s has music way up on tel and in store and help look crappy/warner cut down leylandis/cycle in inside lane cuts out, he keeps trying to start it as car go around, never looks behind. light turns red, keeps trying, wouldn’t dream of moving over to the side, now pushes it across st and hops on, tries to start it, never looks behind, could be hit. did he finally move over as guy stopped and helped push him to get it started.
/cars l0l. short pants, shades, bs, talking loudly bout other biz around you.
/dry cleaners has stereo so loud they can’t hear you.
/ghetto blaster’ as in ghetto their dumb enuff to turn em up so loud.
/castes in india. top on down: priests?, mil, merchants, untouch. = 4. due to previous lives.
/dianne sawyer/some biz people in better neighborhoods are more subdued, polite, natural, pro, etc. too many of the others are big time interupters, brassy, affected etc. in looking for ma’s long term care. sig/i tried to take a [blue collar] couple there and to linc center. couldn’t be bothered. show man too./gary cut tree down.
/monarchies promote hierarchies/dumb enuff to sit on the hoods of their mercedes – neuvous riche/what if i go to sell my hse, people see alley, corner, 2 sts./dumb neighbors probably not looking into working some deal to buy that foreclosed house. par for the course./the flic Breaking Away keeps showing up on tv. a wholesome flic. makes you wonder about the diff between college kids and ‘cutters.’
/comp usa: one smeller with tonque pierced; a gal with ring in her nose./24 hrs: jerk at nursery, ken – mech, cars l0l – plates.
/cable guys who pushed car down st, profanity, hair,
/to store in pincurlers, no scarf, obese and tight clothes, vericos veins.
/junky guys work at junky places said pa.
/gary could have cut tree way down to something managable./gleason: ralph kramden was mad at everyone. but had to end up loving his wife at end for the viewers. he struggled for dig.
/end monarchies for the sake of the royals as much as everyone else./tel man wouldnt make u turn on hazard as ‘these people’/little problems sometimes with me and one tenant here, maybe another there. can’t believe the small mindedness.
/funny how people sort themselves out according to levels of intelligence. with few exceptions, i don’t have much in common with those who are a not too swift, nor those who are far smarter than me – can whizz by me in the blink of an eye./was mad at someone on phone, she said you can’t talk to me that way; i’m a christian girl. touching./cable guys/can’t believe how loud those seniors talk/badn – bread truck has radio up
/dumb beh in pep boys
– & 99/move to better schs [means class]
/background music should be barely audible.
country western types seem to go out of their way to be ungramatical, plain, down homes folks, overweight, victims of every misfortune: society, laws, police, alc, love, bosses, creditors, natural disasters, pov, strikes, gambling,
play their record backwards. self pity, struggle, no iq,
can only rely on their dog, truck, and somebody done me wrong
song. corn, grand old opry. cowboy hats, two step. constant justification and identification
pdi
/like many americans i’m sure glad we don’t have a monarchy. as in eng, japan, and other countries. such an inst asks a family to be perfect and to keep having perfect kids based in birth, not merit. preposterous. in ours an dother countries
the world’s sys of sports and en stars and other pub figures is much better – people rise and fall on their own merits: jackie o, peck? grace kelly, cary grant, cal rifkin?, audry hepburn, chas heston, rr?, muhammend ali, rockefellers?
enter dianna, a very dignified person with a gift for the common touch, exactly what the royal family needed but could not tolerate. she rose above it, retaining her humanity, vulnerability, and the public loved her even more. grew into job, not a threat, a natural,
moreso the monarchy has to compete with ‘natural’ celebrities.
/little people are told they should worship and live thru big people. those in between. marry a commoner who becomes less common.
/local access channel is so tacky/kept saying the working class wanted to honor princess di. came to lay flowers, etc.
/country western – plain and simple folks want to be left alone, but do they?
/sch probably breeds resentment among wc. sig.
/i can’t figure out country western types on tv. seems they go out of their way to be ungramatical, plain, overweight, down home folks – victims of every misfortune looking to justify selves and identify with others.
/linda’s not working round the house [i offered some work for low pay], not hustling, off socializing all over with her church grp. not using her head in little ways. 23 yrs ago we both didn’t have much, now i have a lot [even if you take family $ away] and she still doesn’t. she cares less bout the future and has 2 kids. would have had more./took her to interesting korean supermarket, she stayed in front and didn’t even go thru the aisles; later i took her down a couple and she found them interesting. typical blue collar/c.m. is better neigh. than wm,
consignment shop in laguna hills had class./good guys select which cameras to carry on basis of demographics. 8/97. there is it – like redlining.
– trailer trash. country: no dirt under her fingernails, callouses, bad grammar, terrible table manners, tatoos, twang, chewing tobacco, pick up truck, barefoot, pregnant, with a bunch of dirty kids and dogs around her shack./how much of ed is wasted on w.c. linda, mingo/the mentality of some of the people in the house: get fat, waste time, take menial work and never advance?,
/didn’t move to east side of manhattan to put up with rock and roll in the airshaft/blood sports/some class wars now: me vs linda, mingo …./big easter dinner here [without asking] by linda = crowded, too much, clutter, overkill – like place of tom’ssee wc/ed mounce/jonny cash on biography. reminds you of how taylor, wayland jenning, and all them down home country types who had it hard -singer their somebody done somebody wrong song./can’t stand it when women pluck their eyebrows/chasing they-it neon rainbow, down nashville way. bk: country music culture
/alcu had more class than span am inst, so you could run the class better.
/class couple at airporter: subtle, inner, understated, conf, subdued, refined, discreet, nothing to prove, have it or you don’t. older guy and younger gal./radios on trash trucks/Linda likes this neighborhood; i can’t stand it./could believe regs who said the outside world gets cold out there/asked don if living here he was saving $. dk, was he saving $ on housing. yes/country music: self-conscious, rationalizing, in your face, not subtle,
/radio city music hall/funny how class, brains, $, success seem to go together. /i can see how when you income goes up, you have to delegate clerical work, but others want to burden you with it/classy couple at airporter looked like they enjoyed being quiet.
/ ‘mah baby done me wrong’/harder to sell cheap cars said a guy back east.
/country western is so apart, conspicuous
/innovations broaden gap twix rich and poor – elec, tech.
/country-western — a subculture
/net: 0 on classes but some on stratification/klan makes nobodys feel like somebodys
– but those who make a bundle off being that way, gilly?, don’t lose their touch on purpose/upstairs, downstairs, my fair lady, oliver, chas dickens?
/silo, federated grp.
/ballads thet repeat and repeat and repeat /bob put self in hock for 5 yrs for that tercel/cut down trees – has to hurt the resale value/monarchy means: hiearchy, subjects, bondage?,
/country western is am’s heartbeat. they are the most loyal fans.
/aud. you’ll only pic oranges.
/wm mem park took down their wall – really stupid. like gary and tree
/had to practically handcuff some pa’s to get them to go to their kid’s grad. wfb.
/likes the ‘ivory’ on my fence/if there were no monarchies, then there might be more diana’s in other areas: sports, entertainment … whatever./never planting the parking strip – hazard newland to riata/even this late, 3? yrs later, jun plays radio loud while waiting out front. – and you’re not dumb enuff to do it to LL where you had trouble, d’s LL, etc./also d’s hair, etc.- says he keep telling jun/neigh sch reflects the neigh. ag class
/natural order – classes/whitney’s apt complex – no noise/cor, linda, jonny, mingo – against al. class deal? (probably moreso in this country than others)/that ruby at e.j. gould said, no one’s calling me low class.
/class sys on beaches in scicily
/prez is 8 yrs, the monarchy is forever/consignment shops in lag hills: gentle, discerning, relaxed, content
/caddy in front of a shack
/sitting on cars
/you pay for quiet and fewer tatoos, baseball caps with hair sticking out, haircuts, shaggy beards, underwear, pincurlers, vericose veins, cough on you in line, gum snappers, /all country music people seem to have in their lives is music. ag. tv: nashville is buckle of bible belt. was no dancing? and dry till the 60s. ah ha: rel and music are outlets./wc class more open to admit 3 yrs sober.
/nashville: country western, buckle of bible belt, didn’t used to dance [?], dry till mid 60s. reluctant to talk bout aids. [they are SO repressed, their feelings have to come out thru music !!! i figured it out !]/wc, lc can’t help but have chip on your shoulder? not nec. as lot don’t
/class = careful with emotions?
/lot of little people in opra’s aud, were glad she beat meat industry.
/anna 42, said those with less iq can get into more trouble on ft. bull
/nw corner of new and haz, mid of night, guy stops, haz lights on pick up?, could hve swung a u, but stops traffic by pulling out into it, then backing up into his place.
/stupid distorted music on hold – hm dep.
/my income has gone up. i’m living with guys who won’t have a fraction of what i have. i’ve learned not to give them ANY indication of what i have as resentment, d, owe em, /l454l – sergio – fixed it up and parked rv, then junk.
/country music is the poetry of the working class
– then will it spead to other countries?/why country music singers hide behind low slung hats/tommy lee? said country people used to be portrayed at ma and pa kettle, bev hillbillys [tobacco rd], before becomming mainstream. [i was country before country was kool]
/appalacian woman on net of 52 said not ed, but didn’t have to apologize to anyone/during clinton’s st of union adres, everyone applauded some woman in a burgundy? dress around 30? she had such sweetness and unassuming poise and dignity in her own quiet way, she put all those politicians to shame./uso girls in seattle. sad./sammy and co that worked here, then made trouble. badn
/charm of homes in cdm shows size is not the issue
/country music: realize there is no way they will make it, so wallow in self justifiction, id.
/started file called wc for working class/lumpenproletariat, ghetto, tobacco road, across the tracks, unskilled, monosyllabic, limited, coarse, crude, ruff, LOUD, profane, earthy, slouching, tatooed, unwashed, unlettered, underprivileged, illiterate. no driver’s license, puts on her scuffed leather and drives a uninsured Harley with no muffler, bleached blond, goes to professional ‘rassling,’ then gets in a baroom brawl, usually wins.
what did i leave out? ——————
/gum snapping, tobacco chewing, knarly,
/country western has no cleavage, etc.
/in calif we don’t have to see people going round in net shirts, tank tops, undershirts, in NY on buses, etc.
/hensleys nice, but built skate bd ramp/lone lines and crowds at el torito. a joke. $ll/ea. 5/99/every ll tourists to africa create l job. 98 more $ than gold.
/ron’s party not bothered by his? dog for long on other side of gar. it bothered neighbors./l48l3 and up 2? is guy from wm trans, like ron & gary, stuck up for his kid with loud sound, tit for tat, b & w, unmannerly kid, across from noisy viets, whom he turned it. 33 grew up on eden. fiesty, overbearing. will retaliate re kid.
/refig unit on stater bros truck serenaded the whole neigh for a whole? night. 40 ft from houses
/people stand around at accident: don’t help slow traffic, don’t push car out of rd. [look to me for dir]
/warner cut down lelandies.
/daily news/roseann = wc/see badn/tim butler didn’t like the play on words in the la times. temp?/see wc/rudoph bing/d – said friendlier in s.d.
/gary not worried bout prop values as not selling
/smith lacks sensitivity in telling of his grand times etc. mrs v almost worst – of things others can only dream of. Something ostentatious bout it all: to eng ea yr for perfect time. Great apt the bank has for son in law. Great home they have. Nr prt wash. He farms out computer work, etc. snobbish. Bailey too. Emma: only the best dr. smitty doesn’t realize he does it.
/those satisfied with cg, buffims,
/ Social Classes and Liberals
American liberals resist the idea of “social classes,” assuming:
– Classes mean “inequality,” “stratification,” and conflict.
– If the gap between rich and poor grows, something is wrong.
– Those with more exploit those with less.
– The working class is oppressed, and the “underclass” is “trapped.”
– If capitalism isn’t the cause, it must be close.
– Government should redistribute the wealth and power to level the classes.
(Conservatives disagree.)
To get a picture of classes, let’s consider what noted conservative E. Banfield describes as the four classes: upper, middle, working, and lower, and how liberals view them.
Housing
The lower class of bums, common criminals and the improvident can afford only the worst housing (and they let it run down, as we’ll see). The other classes can afford better, but they maintain it. They fight to keep the lower class out. (When this is middle class blacks keeping out lower class blacks, liberals are baffled as they assume blacks stick together.)
When the middle class “push” the lower class out of a neighborhood, liberals complain; when the lower class “push” the middle class out, liberals are quiet.
Education
Liberals consider private schools “elitist.” They ignore them, and anguish over public schools. The latter are supposed to be the great equalizer, but, in fact they help the upper class; and, after the 9th grade, hurt the lower class.
The lower class doesn’t value education. The working class Archie Bunkers value it somewhat, but not as much as liberals think. Many are ready to leave school after l4, get a job, and later start a family.
The middle and upper classes want to stay in school longer. The liberals, most of whom come from these classes, assume this is better and that others have or should have the same interests. Not so.
Liberals have wanted so badly to help the working and lower classes, they have dropped educational standards since the mid-60s. They wanted to include everyone and not have anyone feel bad by getting low marks. They have also taken responsibilities from the family and put them on the schools, but have taken away – authority, discipline, punishment, and standards. The disastrous results are well-documented.
At the college level liberals support taxing all the classes to pay for public colleges. This is one of the great injustices in our system as those who benefit are primarily middle and upper class students, says nobel winner Milton Friedman.
Work
Liberals have appointed themselves champions of the “working man.” They are sure he is being exploited by management, so they support unions whose policies: cost the country thousands of jobs, raise prices, monopolize, discriminate, and support raising the minimum wage.
Liberals have gotten many people to frown on menial work. They’ve decided it’s boring and numbing, because that’s what it is for them. But many working class people are content with it. They raise families on it and their kids often do the same (and don’t need their jobs put down).
Liberals have made welfare so generous, people are paid not to take menial work. (But such work and working harder than the class above have been the traditional route out of poverty.)
Liberals keep raising the minimum wage; this costs thousands of entry-level jobs, and deprives many teenagers of a chance to develop work habits. Some feel life owes them something, and with no job, have a greater inclination toward crime.
Business
Various businesses use demographic studies to determine what social classes exist in which neighborhoods and target their products accordingly. The military uses them when recruiting. Insurance companies use them to “redline.” Liberals would like to interpret this as class or racial prejudice, but it’s economics.
When businesses operate in a ghetto, they have to raise their prices as it costs more to operate (security, theft, vandalism, staff turnover). Liberals call higher prices “exploitation.”
They say businesses in ghettos are “taking money out of the neighborhood and giving nothing back.” Nothing back? They are providing services no one else will!
Liberals continually want business to take on more social responsibility: child care, health insurance, comparable worth, family leave, 60 day plant closing notice, helping local schools etc.
Taxes
Liberals don’t mind “soaking the rich” through the graduated income tax, inheritance tax, and capital gains tax (highest in the modern world).
Social programs
According to noted conservative E. G. Banfield (and supported by my experience), the lower class is made up of people who choose not to become self-sufficient, self-respecting, and mature. Education can’t prepare them for work and adulthood. In one city they absorbed 55% of its welfare, 5l% of its health services, and 56% of its mental health and correctional services. There is no chronic poverty outside this class.
You don’t hear this from liberals. In ’64 they created a “poverty line,” which allows this class food stamps, medicare, legal aid, school lunch, rent & heat subsidies, job training and fewer taxes. They are paid not to work. This has caused polarization and resentment – especially from the working poor.
Liberal programs have caused more harm than good: rent control has created inequities and a housing shortage, and welfare has broken up families and created dependence.
Refugees
When early waves of refugees from communist Cuban and Vietnam come to the U.S. and become rich and later waves don’t, liberals blame our system, missing the matter of class. First came the upper classe, then the middle class, then the working class. The upper class does better because they arrive with more skills.
Conclusion
We all believe in equal opportunity, but starting in the 60s, liberals began to think this should produce equal outcome. It didn’t: many education programs failed, many public housing projects became notorious, and welfare caused dependency, resentment, and polarization. Liberal permissiveness increased crime, and affirmative action was often reverse discrimination.
It’s time for realism. Broad overlapping social classes are a fact of life. They don’t conflict; they complement each other. They are natural and healthy in an open society. People gravitate to their own level. They should be left alone to do so and not be manipulated by liberals, whose programs have often left everyone worse off. #
/I was the lst one ever to complain to l-one paint bout their asking one’s name right off the bat.
/drum line at warner. Bet few complain.
/jim mcpadden said in a way he envied those stiff necks at rums
/seems like the people in thrift stores, 99, bug me – fat, slow, in the way, ill mannered.
/to sir with love.
/wonder how much gary is losing by having his olds sit around.
/j springer: loud, crude, profane, disrespectful, get over, defensive, terrible way of working their voice, out of chair, threatening, make fun of all, humiliate, use, expose, anything for atten, hair, tatoos, piercings, no what I’m saying, you know, /worse is prison values: get over, power, punk, damage, hurt, super vengence, once your down, they are dogs./gary lays carpet in closed? Comms where you can NOT park on the st. [so maybe that is why summerwood leaves curb red – for neighbs.
/gary said that neighb he knows knows it’s me that clipped his brougenvillia and is ticked. And not getting along with wife as no $ and on workman’s comp. Ty of neigh.
/jo found willard boys much more refined.
/550k/yr prop taxes in palm beach. 5k/mo to air cond homes there. 370 charity balls/yr during the season
/subdued elegance
/everything bout m is understated.
/I once saw a very pretty, sweet, more refined little girl at mc sch – seemed way out of her class.
/weak? Wc? Servicemen in port that got about a far as the nearest bar.
Tuesday, April 24, 2001 |
Entertained Into Social Change
Soap operas are found to influence people much more effectively than lectures or pamphlets on how to combat AIDS, teen pregnancy and other pressing problems in developing countries.
By CAROL J. WILLIAMS, Times Staff Writer
BERLIN–Can sub-Saharan Africans slow the spread of AIDS if the stars of their favorite TV melodramas practice safe sex?
Will Chinese families coping with the country’s one-child policy stop valuing boys over girls because the heroine of the most-watched television drama is as successful and dutiful as any son a parent could imagine?
Is the answer to Brazil’s bloody struggle between wealthy barons and landless peasants the sympathy generated for the destitute squatters by a wildly popular prime-time series?
Tune in tomorrow for a daily dose of encouragement for the behavioral changes that these shows’ producers believe will create a better world.
Soap Operas for Social Change is a multinational mission aimed at lacing entertainment with role models whose trials and tribulations mirror the everyday lives of listeners and viewers in developing nations.
It’s an international cross-breeding of philanthropy, development aid and local media talent. Germany, as one of the top media powers in the developed world, has become an incubator for ideas on how to spread democratic values via entertainment.
From teenage pregnancy to pollution, domestic violence to school dropout rates, education masked as dramatic diversion reaches a far broader audience via the airwaves than it ever could on a face-to-face basis, says Hans Fleisch, head of the German Foundation for World Population.
“With hundreds of millions of people in the world living in trauma–forced [female] circumcisions, war, discrimination against women, AIDS–there will never be enough resources to provide individual therapies, which is why television presents such a great opportunity to convey an important message,” he says.
“Television in the developing world isn’t only for entertainment, and it’s not regarded as a waste of time. It’s seen as an engine for social change and development,” says Dietrich Berwanger, head of the television training division of Germany’s international broadcast service, Deutsche Welle.
Berwanger, a sociologist who has worked in Kenya to help create local radio serials with a message, contends that the number of TV viewers in Latin America, Africa and the Arab world is as high as in developed countries despite the lower number of TVs and radios per capita.
Watching Television Is a Family Affair
TV watching remains a communal affair in developing nations, he notes, with extended families gathering each night around whatever sets are available and often discussing the plots and predicaments after the program is over.
“Viewers trust TV characters more than their governments, so it’s important for the entertainment media to take up issues that will enlighten audiences and lead to resolution of social problems,” says Benedito Ruy Barbosa, a Brazilian writer of soap operas and prime-time dramas for the last 30 years.
Barbosa’s hugely popular “O Rei do Gado” (The Cattle King), which aired in the late 1990s, was credited with instigating land reform because it brought home the suffering and injustice of the landless to 80 million Brazilian viewers six nights a week.
“Even before the end of the series, the government was forced to impose a tax on land left fallow to pressure the ‘fat bellies’ to allow the landless to farm it,” says the writer.
Television soap operas have long had the power to educate viewers, even against the will of their governments or families, as German sociologist Gabriele vom Bruck reported in a 1987 study of Yemeni women who, after viewing Western programs, began challenging traditional dictates to wear veils when in the presence of anyone outside the immediate family.
Berwanger suggests that Western respect for diversity and racial equality displayed in prime-time television programs such as “The Cosby Show” also contributed to the defeat of apartheid in South Africa.
Similarly, West German soap operas that could be seen in the East during the Communist era kept viewers aware of the prosperity and freer lifestyles on the other side of the Iron Curtain.
At a recent seminar to brainstorm broadcast interventions into the world’s most pressing problems, the German activists and the U.S.-based Population Communications International were approached by Primus Guenou, a production executive from Togo, who was seeking collaboration on a soap opera to educate Africans about the causes and prevention of AIDS.
‘They Want to Be Entertained’
“This is the only way to do it. People won’t read brochures or listen to lectures. They want to be entertained,” says Guenou, the director of Primus Entertainment Production based in Berlin, where he also serves as his embassy’s media liaison.
PCI President David J. Andrews confirms that Africa’s AIDS crisis is his organization’s next big priority and that the New York-based operation, funded by private donors, hopes to partner with local broadcast producers throughout Africa. Soaps for Social Change is the core of PCI’s development aid programs.
The inspirational side effects of melodrama were first noticed after the massively successful Latino soap opera “Simplemente Maria,” which aired from 1969 to 1971 and was later translated and rebroadcast in dozens of countries, Andrews says.
It was a Cinderella story that followed a poor country girl’s travails through a big-city servant job, an ill-considered love affair, an unwanted pregnancy and the prospect of lifelong poverty but for her wise choice to become literate and learn how to sew. By the end of the 448 episodes, Maria is a world-famous fashion designer living the life every poor girl dreams of.
“In every country where ‘Simplemente Maria’ was broadcast, sales of Singer sewing machines skyrocketed,” Andrews says.
PCI began supporting radio and television serial productions a decade ago and had empirical evidence from the very start that the messages embedded in the dramas were contributing to beneficial change, he says.
PCI hopes a soap opera now in its third season in China will resolve a reproductive problem–in this case the marked preference for male babies among couples allowed to have only one child.
“The purpose of ‘Bai Xing’ [Ordinary People] is to get across that the birth of a girl child is equal cause for celebration as the birth of a boy,” Andrews says, “and we can do this more effectively through melodrama than any other form of communication.”
Despite the opportunities television and radio offer in educating people in developing nations, bureaucratic and ideological obstacles remain. The St. Lucia government bans the use of the word “condom” in the PCI-assisted serials it otherwise welcomes. To get around the technicality, writers aiming to educate listeners about family planning simply substituted the word “catapult” for “condom.”
“It took people no time at all to realize what was meant when the girl would ask her boyfriend if he remembered the catapults, or if he knew how to put one on. The result is that today there isn’t a single person in St. Lucia who doesn’t know what a catapult is,” says Andrews, adding that the euphemism was probably more effective than the real word would have been because listeners like to think they are in on a secret.
Indian sociologist Ravi Vasudevan, who heads the New Delhi Center for Study of Developing Societies, notes the need for sensitivity to prevailing social values and gentle nudges toward change to avoid the risk of alienating audiences who have long been subject to official manipulations.
Soap operas in India tend not to challenge the traditional authority of older males in the family, instead imparting female role models with respect for their fathers and grandfathers as well as wit and ambition to lift them up from the current standard of abject submission.
The 40-odd countries now receiving development aid via soap operas and other entertainment vehicles are mostly poor states with too few resources and production skills to undertake such programming tasks on their own. But even highly developed countries are experiencing similar influences when soaps tackle delicate subjects such as teen pregnancy and breast cancer, or subliminally encourage public donations to international relief efforts, as did one episode of Germany’s most-watched soap, “Lindenstrasse.”
“When encouragement of good works comes in the form of a favorite program, it doesn’t feel so much like being lectured to or made to feel responsible for the outside world’s problems,” says Rolf Seelmann-Eggebert, a veteran television correspondent who created an ongoing relief project, One World, in response to the 1984 Ethiopian famine.
Barbosa agrees that the motivational message is best when it’s subtle. “After a long day, when a guy comes home and wants to forget about the world and its problems that he has just closed the door on, he turns on the TV because he wants to be transported. You have to strike the right balance between raising consciousness and letting people relax.”
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/they don’t think to commit things to paper – mingo going to mex. What becomes of his stuff if something happens to him.
/do college stu riot etc more than non c stus?
/since the conformist 50s, country music emerged more into the mainstream in the 70s 80s?
/tammy’s car radio super loud and asked you can hear it over there? [well, of course]
/so in this neigh, re sound I had trouble with sch-4, postman only once, mex – 8, fidel’s dog –l0, ron-25, gary-5, bryan in shed 30, Sharon – 30, yellow hse on corner, garcias, viets 4 blks away,
/country western types know they’re not on top and not going to end up there, are defensive about their position, thus tend [and love] to be victims of the boss, the co. booze, love, bad luck, crop failure, weather ………… and can only count on their truck, dog, and guitar. They seem to milk twangs, cowboy hats, jeans, the texas two-step,
/kit larson said hiatus over so. no. s.a. and he bridged it. lived on so ross, later on no. french.
/ Class is soooo subtle and wendy is. You almost can’t put your finger on it
/subtlety is so much a part of class and soph. your finger on it – spec with Asians. She’s lot like moks
/ron Lancaster – That’s 3 generations of noise I’ve gotten from them.
/Roseannie said in 95 not supposed to talk bout class. Her show was blue collar: drank, preg, fired, pot,
/trouble with most my neighbs: postal wker – l, blks-2, gary – tons, how-0, steve-tons, anna – some, someone diff after that? with loud coming out back, then mex- tons. trish – l, fidel’s basset hound – tons, ron – tons, hensley’s – only the ramp. Van-tons and mm too! Loud seniors. That goat. Only grafitti from jack. Thus to gated comm. as cops are – 0.
/so ron must be in mid? 30, his girl l7? And her brat 3?
If I’ve been here 24 yrs, they’ve been here l8? /wendy has so much class and it’s so hard to define.
/when I first moved in to 8602, ma said the neighborhood isn’t much. Prophetic words.
/lot of wc like dot, never stop talking or whatever long enuff to think.
/mingo just saw what looked like an attempt by an asian women to abandon her kids. I’m passing info on to cops, he doesn’t want to get involved [as law in looking for him?]
ticks you off how these people can’t describe anything and won’t get involved.
/nice to go around backer st, riverside dr, etc. very quiet! Clean, subdued. And mex woman with no eng 4 doors down.
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> 1. The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who run the country.
>
> 2. The New York Times is read by people who think they run the
> country.
>
> 3. The Washington Post is read by people who think they should run
> the country.
>
> 4. USA Today is read by people who think they ought to run the
> country but don’t really understand the Washington Post. They do,
> however, like their smog statistics shown in pie charts.
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> 5. The Los Angeles Times is read by people who wouldn’t mind running
> the country, if they could spare the time, and if they didn’t have to
> leave L.A. to do it.
>
> 6. The Boston Globe is read by people whose parents used to run the
> country and they did a far superior job of it, thank you very much.
>
> 7. The New York Daily News is read by people who aren’t too sure
> who’s running the country, and don’t really care as long as they can
> get a seat on the train.
>
> 8. The New York Post is read by people who don’t care who’s running
> the country either, as long as they do something really scandalous,
> preferably while intoxicated.
>
> 9. The San Francisco Chronicle is read by people who aren’t sure
> there is a country, or that anyone is running it; but whoever it is,
> they oppose all that they stand for. There are occasional exceptions
> if the leaders are handicapped minority feminist atheist dwarfs, who
> also happen to be illegal aliens from ANY country or galaxy as long
> as they are democrats.
>
> 10. The Miami Herald is read by people who are running another
> country, but need the baseball scores.
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> 11. The National Enquirer is read by people trapped in line at the
> grocery store.
/I didn’t’ move to the east side to put up with music from the lynch boy.
/we love diversity horizontally but not vertically. Horz – is all the culs, but vert is class. Sig. Ag. Just thot of this in the bathroom.
when I was young in 50s, we were all supposed to be the same. Country music was thot of as very small? Minority of hillbillys, but it caught on or came out in 70s? with urban cowboy and is seen as a bigger part of society. More accepted.
/little guys – that mex guy who walks down hazard daily – like he’s carrying a great burden. Or self pity? also day laborers.
/dalits – untouchables. Even below the formal caste system.
/class: hermitage, frick, Huntington
/skip – Westminster terrace – assisted living. Just not as sharp – re donating articles. Skip.
/probably lot of wc parents who don’t think their kids need prep schools. Sig. what about the mc kids that did, etc. like the girls we know who never used their degrees. Why should taxpayers pay for it. thus choice to go up or down.
/some dumb article in life in ’59 had leisure time of 4 classes as: l aristocrats, 2 upper bourgeois, 3 lower bourgeois, 4 peasants. How they spend their leisure time:
l being an expert, not results.
2 results, not expertise
3 results are more sig. runs in packs
4 wastes time – in nothing original or creative.
/that Kathy at cats is always breathless. Less likely if uc?
I like getting to know merchants. All the more reason to live in a better neigh.
/when you get more $, you don’t want to tell others and have em think diff of you – like vain, ego, soc, better, envy, undeserving, …
and you don’t want dumb ideas: new car, cruise,
Sinbad – the only thing that’s changed is the money.
/you get $, then you ‘hire’ people.
/wen moved from cypress to nb. Said in later people more int in exercise, self-improvement [classes, therapy …
/workers on the mulholland? Aqueduct bringing water to la – bars and brothels sprang up. some would blow their whole paycheck on em.
/one mine in brazil, sierra pelada? , no women, guns, booze. What bout gambling?
/l wc don’t thing that loud music turns in stores uc off. Viet thu.
/any class diffs in those that want their kids to keep the lang and customs of the old country?
/sam ash, silo, fed grp – ALL were and are bad, loud, junky, mangy, hyped up, oppressive, gimmicky, with dressed down staffs with such an air of self-importance. Some wouldn’t even look at you. Defensive.
/fryes – their clothes hang on em. Comp usa – not much better.
/never and undershirt and never to show your muscles
/judy hersheiser, gilmer’s adopted girl
/dup? rp says people in Newport more health conscious.
/how many times are tanner’s pets going to get out.
/99 is a study in carts that don’t work, gum on sidewalks, gum in staff? And customers, no room for 2 carts to pass, turn, wait in line without blocking others, no room to easily grab your sacks. Probably dumb music. Too much ringing, uh oh, assault on senses. Fryes.
/century city: floors so polished that your tires squeak at the slightest turn. Sec guards & all dressed up. no music, no solictations. Market mall there was atmospheric.
/just in wal-mart: as things improve for me, I feel sorry for people that work there, yet I held jobs like that and was glad to.
/beggars outside 99, target, viet markets, phuc loc,
/country western music for underdogs or those who FEEL like underdogs
/don tyler running water fast and long when washing hands. Also got grease on front dr and sink [and bac ba?]
/so many of the wealthy are portrayed as living silly lives. I’m the opposite and I guess many of them are too. I guess the rest would like to believe they are silly so they can condemn them.
/rich get up there and hide it as don’t need someone trying to pull em down with nitpicking, born of envy.
/never thot: who in our class had the most successful kids?
/those from n. s.a. had more $ and talent? And still do and those from so s.a. had and have less and are happy. Pion, van hoye, Martha,
/if you live next to noisey I guess that’s it, but I want to say noisy blue collar as they’re always running power tools. They’re leisure is work.
/elaborate playhouses at fash. Is. speaker made to look like a rock, ‘hidden’, uniform sound, nice selections, which add not subtract. [so nice, the occasional awful customer or teen sticks out all the more]
/that trash can troupe. Also FAME. Also THE WARRIORS
/gary tex coated his hse twice, bot new? truck once, wants to get another, had 2k in back with kids hm. Vacation but with friends.
/another 99 nr springdale: aisles at angles – very confusing, tons of extra displays, trouble getting car thru, sharp ringing noise every time an item is checked. Loud uh oh. Tuype of customers who will talk about their operation, stopping the line, get in people’s way, not mind their kids, must be numbing to work there.
/mounce said he’s not an educated man.
/even the check out counter is so clutter with last minute junk to buy, there is hardly any room to put your purchases.
/Thing about rp, like all classy people, is that she’s understated; the more you know her, the more fine qualities you see.
/odd how p.a. sys of some bands at airporter actually can hurt your ears. Wonder if others feel same
/dj and dot believe what they want to believe – that I was too lucky with $.
/tina vs ana. Edgar, john Stanford, rob chitchuk, Ralph allen, scot, keith
/dj’s silly ideas of my always being able to fall back on folk’s $. I turned it down in ny.
/I wonder if if blue collar neighborhoods on weekends they don’t constantly work with their hands on hobbies, their homes, [as opposed to reading …]
/2 fams with bad kids – one of straggly ragmuffins [living in car? and the store is their rec yard?] , the other of noisy, bapi …
/mingo and don – do they ever have the scope and vision to appreciate what makes a good rooming hse or good neigh? vs Don knows of ruff parts of s.a. mingo said people nicer in s.d.
/working under car on busy hazard: tim butler, don and mingo
/The wc expects to take mass transit.
/guy in hse doesn’t make much money. buys a NEW car and is in hock for 5 years. not smart. bob alex.
/the artistic Japanese porn shows how classy some Japanese are. Whole world’s missing this. little motoko was so pristine, cute, sweet, diligent, dedicated – a saint. I guess I love her more every day [as a person]. Runping too. Tina was tops too, so which guys were? Can’t think of any.
/secret: demographics for the allocation of products.
/how many guys join navy their jr or sr yr or right after grad.
/clothes are to hide our imperfections, not advertise them.
/you begin to think that people pay for good neigh to avoid goofs in stater bros, etc.
/sams, 99, silo, fed group, sam ash, toms place seem to go out of their way for bad acoustics, NOISE, clutter, distraction,
/I was signing up for a cel phone at sams, some idiot was standing with legs apart, arms folded, shifting back and forth, facing me 5 feet away as I sat with salesman.
/could barely hear and avoid my echo on sams cheapo phone.
/poor guy there had a stuttering problem. His lower lip trembled often. it didn’t seem to bother him as much as me, or maybe he was tuning it out. courageous guy. Like gal at frame and lens.
/ken boone said has to hire l00 to get one good one and pay em $l5-$20/hr. l/03
/if I retired and was part of mc senior cent, I’d want to cut the noise and it’d be a big fight. Stater bros here and in lag.. woods.
/how many won’t be able to retire in as nice a neigh as me.
/8602 haz didn’t bother mingo a bit. [said far worse]. Probably didn’t bother don tyler either. Bob Alexander said far worse too.
/whole diff feeling at heritage escrow [vs mc]
/sec at escrow said big diff twix no county and so. her granny was in gg. Not nice. Moved to better area.
/maybe w.c. likes kids to be loud to be macho [that wel ma] or rebel as trapped anyhow.
/all clean in the back of moulton plz shopping center. Good landscaping all over. space, subtleties of uniformity, space, every thing kept up, trimmed, painted, no pot holes,
/now the friggen rulls have a NEW little dog. oh boy. If they couldn’t hear ron, then probably couldn’t hear old and new dog.
/should they ban dogs at lw?
/cost me tons of time walking round this neigh trying to locate boom boxes. Vs stand in center of whitney’s.
/50l8 – all kinds of outlets in hse and gar, lights, faucets, double drapes, movable mirror opposite a huge mirror,
the landscaping is extensive, continuous, consistent, tasteful?, very pleasing.
/if you let your kid scream while playing, then your super loud dog barking during a party doesn’t bother you either. Noise = life.
/lw: constant maintenance. Pot holes, crowned sts, backs of bldgs kept up, no dumping there, drum line,
/could be blue collar to make lot of noise at piñata party.
/back to old neigh 4/03: beggar at 99. limited poor people. 3 loud car radios, Sergio ignored me for no reason. Run down places, no uniformity.
/if they can’t mng their kids, no surprise they can’t mang their pets.
/if violence in neigh, stereos are 0.
/workmen have to have radio with brainless music blaring.
/class [quality] just grows and grows as more and more facets to appreciate – rp, tina, moks
/lw vs the outside.
/one thing bout people with class, like runping, takes long time to get to know em. Subtle. The more you know em, the more of a treasure you see they are.
/don’t bother to dress appropriately when going out in pub. You actions are somewhat like the way you dress. Develop
/good guys – the dress well. circuit city – guaranteed their pants don’t fit. And the vol is up.
/mingo and don sure that leaving old neigh and moving to lw was a mistake. Wow. They don’t see the subtleties.
/academy of country music awards – gave awards last nite in vegas, didn’t watch much: some wearing cowboy hats, jeans, shirt out some, [dirt?], affected airs? Why go so far out of your way to have a twang, be a victim, defensive, bad grammar, down home, no minorities?
/those board and care operators, but is that fair? don’t forget, mr. bell looked ticked.
/computer repairman is quite a guy, but always sports a hickey his wife gave him the night before. No class
/nice gal at my party said everyone dresses up more here [on east side]
/in bank, lw, customer had a ring in his nose and ear? Disgusting.
/sch kids would cut thru gas sta where viets worked. Awful.
/ez lube: rag in mouth on phone, eat on job, introduced self, took bite & talked with mouth full, know what I’m saying, yelling, radio in waiting rm, hit you with tons of add ons when going to pay – just want to get OUT of there.
/had hoped to leave cruddy people behind in wm; some here are worse.
/mingo doesn’t plan for the future. Bet his girl feels the same.
/a woman fixes herself in the bathroom, not in public [car, etc]
/how truly stupid of some women to keep pushing their hair back or tossing their head to get it back. Wouldn’t dream of fixing it.
/new theory: many immigrants eventually assimilate but our country western class seem to go our of their way to talk funny, dress funny, never really think, and wallow in self-pity and defensiveness.
/search demographics determine selection, distribution of products
/don’t block? stairs? At wm crthse.
/touching: pink note with ‘housecleaning many years of experience, excellent refs, maria martinez 7l4 662 5857’ in my dr at 50l8.
/wc – not phoney with a bunch of small talk. That’s one thing I like bout the working class – no excessive role playing. What you see is what you get.
/archie bunker had lot of fear, said n lear.
/mc vs folks, smiths, bryants,
/lot of women on TV keep pushing their hair back behind their ear, then it falls forward. Is that supposed to be exciting? Gee, I sure want a woman like that – so dumb she doesn’t buy a clip for her hair.
/there exists a layer of guys who are sec guard, messengers, cabbies?,
/Johnny cash – rural roots, songs of the downtrodden. Wore black as a general protest far as I can tell. 1500 songs bout laborers, hardluck heroes. Music was refuge from the sweat and pain of fieldwork. Travails of the working class,
/why does sams have terrible acoustics and blaring music. I feel sorry for some of the people there who look not too fancy.
/belabor the obvious
/so sympathizes when I’m sick, but raises her voice.
/dup? idiots at park Newport party
/giant earings etc
/mc was county and so were the folks.
/a bad neigh… pulls you down.
/all on the outside: cap, t shirt, bumper stickers, flags, logos, signs, tight clothes,
/started early on taxes as fire and didn’t want trouble. Probably told cats. But they caused trouble right in the middle of my move. Joe … down here saved my rear.
/woman at reunion must have had pointed bra. Very uplifting bra. What the hell’s the pt. does hub love it?
/super fast dental gal here said people go to wm [to save $ and take pot luck.]
/seem busier in lw. Certainly less distracted and irritated by lousy stuff in mc
/being around $ means you’re more like;y to be around people with manners.
/cats vs the tax specialists
/better off working for the right boss than being your own boss. – that carlo at cotton goff
/once you realize we are all the same – that the kennedy’s, Hollywood, wall st, whites, etc aren’t magic – that your crowd is diff but fine ……… sig. develop. And just be yourself.
/started diverting in hi sch, c, grad sch
predestination scarey. top down, ’57 guys: ralph allen, tj, jay, martin, keith, smit
donaldson, bj, barker, edney, mounce, gills, sully, Jenkins,
exceptions phil, hutch, medley, me, quiz?, steffans, gills
other classes strochein, immel, dawson, scot, hap, jeff
girls coomber, sheila, sondra, char, jan?, river ln, judy jeff…, Sheila, vicki, moks,
I am the only one who thinks bout this stuff [too much?] [for my own purposes? Or] to figure it out
/guy who bot haz to fix up, and eventual couple that bot it, didn’t water lawn, finally cut it, cut front tree back to 5 x 2. how that would never happen at mm or lw. That’s why prop vals go up. my old neighbors must HATE it.
/wc and poor have NO idea how important uc time is – lawyers at 250/hr, drs, —- sofi, +
/bros, scot, k, s, ken as officers in the mil – wow
/to sear outlet in back [lw]. people working there with limited social and other skills. Kind of feel sorry for em.
/don still thinks I should have kept the old hse. L6 mos later.
/joan rivers asks eliz… hurley to turn around. she glances at hugh grant before doing 2/3rds of a turn. Ty
/tom? Ritter said country was blue grass and western was cowboy. They later joined.
/don’t the poor hate criminals the most.
/all that tacky stuff in the mc post office – blow up dinosaurs etc.
/………… and all her perfume etc.
/ny times on summer camp: I’ve never been to a place where race and class mattered less.
/some poor whites talk and act like blacks but we’re all melding more …………… very slow, but happening.
/cars on haz go by with flat tires – flap, flap, flap …
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Strange Answers to Questions on Welfare Claims
-I am forwarding my marriage certificate and 6 children. I had 7 but one died, which was baptized on a half sheet of paper.
-I am writing to the welfare department to say that my baby was born 2 years old. When do I get my money?
-Mrs. Jones has not had any clothes for a year and has been visited regularly by the clergy.
-I cannot get sick pay. I have 6 children. Can you tell me why?
-I am glad to report that my husband who was reported missing is dead.
-This is my eight child, what are you going to do about it?
-Please find for certain if my husband is dead; the man I am now living with can’t eat or do anything until he knows.
-I am very much annoyed to find that you have branded my boy illiterate as this is a dirty lie. I was married to his father a week before he was born.
-In answer to your letter, I have given birth to a boy weighing 10 pounds. I hope this is satisfactory.
-I am forwarding my marriage certificate and my 3 children, one of which was a mistake, as you will see.
-My husband got his project cut off 1 week ago and I haven’t had any relief since.
-Unless I get my husband’s money soon, I will be forced to lead an immortal life.
-You have changed my little boy to a girl. Will this make any difference?
-I have no children yet, as my husband is a bus driver and works day and night.
-In accordance with your instructions, I have given birth to twins in the enclosed envelope.
-I want my money as soon as I can get it. I have been in bed with the doctor for 2 months and he doesn’t doe me any good. If things don’t improve, I will have to send for another doctor.
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/one could say the all sch reunions are blue collar and they are as defensive or tasteless about the heat as everything, but this could be an assumption.
/winona ryder. What a queen going thru lines in the courthouse and standing up deeply offended.
/ruff guy on elimidate said other guy would get beat up in his neigh.
/wm mem park took their wall DOWN
/tennis shoes on the tel wires power lines
/mother’s market: bohemians, yuppies, pretense, defensiveness, independents, unhealthy grubby types. The village or art supply warehouse.
/remember those blue collar guys in leather? At Eastchester comm. Center. Did they chose parker?
/search class warfare, stratification, system
when your income goes way up
/you look out the window and see men working at jobs that will never come close. [jobs you had]
/same habits, just bigger toys
/you can’t tell many
/time is more sig than $ – spec if older.
/buy new for warranties and less trouble
/can afford better ways of investing, protecting, your $.
/better ins, tax man, lawyer, dr, dentist,
/financial independ
/spend more time managing it
/see foolishness everywhere
/long range planning
/better neigh, hse, conveniences, appliances? Clubs?
/I look at some of the blue collar guys at reunions who had fewer privileges but did well enuff and raised families and wonder where the hell did I go wrong.
/program on tv: in hi sch: who you eat lunch with, clothes, speech, preps had more, others thot they were uppity, rural parts said don’t forget your raising, blues didn’t want a lot. Sig sig. content with less. They’d made it if the house was paid for and they bot a fishing boat. Girl went away to college. Folks didn’t want to feel disowned, rejected. Lot of bowling. Yuppies would dive bar crawl. Locals could tell. Blue seen as more genuine.
I add: way of talking, outlook, values,
/the NEED to feel superior – smit, k, kyla, me
/blue don’t part hair.
/dog likes his wife to dress next to nasty when they go out. he goes sleeveless.
/big hair?
/hee haw. Blue collar tv
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=redneck+culture&spell=1
/who uses which terms for classes. Ah ha. do wc people prefer blue collar?
/what’s diff twix cheri and bryan and scot. Wow
/Class Matters: Shadowy Lines That Still Divide
A new series begins with an overview of the role social class plays in America today. NYTimes.com has interactive graphics that help you see where you fit in the American population, and that take a closer look at income mobility, public opinion and the intersection of income and education. Also, a forum to share your thoughts. 5/l5/05
The College Dropout Boom
Poor and working-class students have been falling behind; for them, not having a degree remains the norm. Includes audio slide shows and forums for readers’ responses.
Sent rotc down due to bush and he replied: yea and i guess the reserves are down also. thank you to the intellegent intelligence folks.
/76 yr old jean doing 0 bout all. Only 1 of 4 kids turned out. granddaughter is a mess.
/A Short History of Class Antagonism in the Black Community
By BRENT STAPLES Bill Cosby has brought the black community’s class antagonism into public view.
/If most reporters, editors and publishers are like this writer before his son volunteered, they don’t identify with members of our armed forces personally. Most members of our media are drawn from my privileged class. And we, the most privileged Americans, seem to believe that everyone but our children should serve. When members of the elite do volunteer — as did the Harvard-graduate son of Richard and Doris Kearns Goodwin — it’s a news story in itself.
A Bridge For the Underclass A few weeks ago I met Mark Kushner, a charismatic product of Harvard and Oxford who dumped lawyering in favor of crusading. Kushner opened a high school in a tough section of San Francisco and took in kids who never counted on making it to college. By demanding high standards, Kushner succeeded in… (By Sebastian Mallaby, The Washington Post)
/I notice noisy kids across the way on some weekends. Lw.
/you have to approach the less educated very carefully when it comes to things like conservatorship. Ag
/search themes etc of country western music. Jonny cash just said all music is about love. Country has more sadness. Not sure why. Maybe due to working man ? simple people. Then he poked the donkey, wife objected, then bent its ear down to its eye.
/you don’t hear classical music blaring on car radios
/fryes, compusa, microcenter
/dumb sloppy teens in record and music stores. Same with vid games?
/best buy is much better here than in wm. Stater bros too
/sony’s puter, packaging, lit, helpline [so far] pro, iq, like the diff between norstrom and sam’s club, but the fun is that you argue with libs who won’t get it.
/TO some, the Upper East Side is clean, prosperous and endowed with an enviable service culture that lubricates the lives of busy residents. To others, it is staid and prissy, the home of an uptight, white-collar ruling class. Sig
/Blood Runs Red, Not Blue
By BOB HERBERT
If President Bush’s war in Iraq is worth dying for, then the children of the privileged should be doing some of the dying.
/read that upper class from elite univ are lib and don’t like the mil. That the mil is wc.
/higher prices at design expo center are probably what you have to pay for quiet, subdued lighting, calm pro help, understatement, ….
/sofi was amazed I figured out using 2 mirrors to read plague on a/c next to wall. Iq
/x company
/never heard loud stereos in the upper east side. Sometimes did in ghetto
/The Vanishing Middle
(The Washington Post)
We’re All Preppies Now
By CAROL McD. WALLACE
The popular plaids and polos of today are a pure fashion revival, with little reference to the original subculture that spawned them.
/trying to get the gobbler to the opera or the maslaneks to linc cent.
Computing the Cost of ‘Acting White’
By JOHN TIERNEY
At integrated public schools, minority students with higher grades end up with fewer friends.
/using a computer for games only – don. Vs me
/leela inn, euro park, evergreen – feel so much better in each higher level
/dr. pacharee? It’s rare
/on planes: lst, biz, econ
/no fit: /some defeat selves: d wouldn’t learn ibm. Nor watch his health, nor resume
/In every town, a few individuals and their families have disproportional influence on the affairs of the community. Through their power of wealth and property and religious, social, and political connections, they dominate the city as the elite, either tightly by marriage, social institutions, and businesses, or loosely by sharing capitalist and middle-class values which are represented as community values. When the elite cluster together, they create elite landscapes. Wealth and income has always been unequally distributed; but, to day the gap between the rich and the poor is the largest in U.S. history.
The origins of the caste system in India
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Rajas include qualities like passion, pride, valour and other passionate … Before the Aryans there were other communities in India of other origins. … |
/a blue-collar middle class. Nyt
/ lowlife reprobates.
/those who talk more of class are from back east. Preppy murder case of [jewish] gal in central park. Rape at duke
Duke Failed to See Gravity of Rape Case, Report Says
By KAREN W. ARENSON
An outside report criticized university officials for communication problems and for failing to conduct their own investigation of a rape accusation.
/hi vs popular art. Linc cent vs david blaine’s performance
David Blaine last week spent nearly 180 hours submerged in a water-filled acrylic capsule. Staged in the plaza of Lincoln Center, his endurance test provoked much criticism and ridicule in the press. But such cultural hauteur is misguided
Mr. Blaine’s no-cupcakes-in-school critics ignore the undoing over the last half-century of the old distinction between high and popular art.
/answer machines that don’t work. d
/mingo and don need a hse to rent. Net would help, but they won’t be on that for yrs. 5/06
/nyt can be tonque in cheek
/longer you live, the more you believe in the individual. Alc, gamble, mh, drugs,
/got married in las vegas [jean’s rels]
/sw was for me mostly frustration. thus I’m sick of hopeless causes: slums, crime …. Silly theories that cause such. Thus Tijuana depresses me. So did the chaos of Bangkok. Conversely I think I would love singapore
/how impractical at mothers to scoop cereal many times, write no, tie the tie,
/Astoria, queens – home of the fictional archie bunker
/ A recent article in the Atlantic Monthly, summarizing a Brookings Institution report on the decline of the urban middle class, says that middle-class urbanites now tend to live in increasingly stratified neighborhoods
the knickerbocker greys http://www.knickerbockergreys.org – http://www.knickerbockergreys.org/faq.htm
http://www.pbs.org/peoplelikeus/resources/essays6.html
/marge and masterpiece theatre and the forsythe chronicles.
/we had latino friends and they didn’t have to be exceptional? Vera Garcia vs soki, rudy mont….,
/boxing: subculture – boom boom mancini, the guy that trained Tyson [his nose flattened some]
/nat said rutan & tucker was bourgeois ……………….[he was blue collar & laughed ]
/I heard north was tau mega and south was zeta t.
/ “working poor” or “lower middle class,”
/class is what you do and what you do NOT do
/bob dornan said he never got along with the country club set
/I do something around k to bring some life to the party, to make it more real
/tuff guy, smart aleck rh – http://www.askmen.com/money/mafioso_100/105b_mafia.html
/diff in sony’s helpline and dell’s
/m.c. is $25k-l00k? I.R.S. Audits Middle Class More Often, More Quickly
By DAVID CAY JOHNSTON The I.R.S. has nearly tripled audits of tax returns filed by people making $25,000 to $100,000 since 2000.
/sloane ranger handbook –
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sloane+ranger+handbook
via prince William dumping mc gal: who’s ma was a airline flight attendant and chewed gum at will’s grad. The posh and the chavs upper class twits.
/I don’t like the way the discussion is carried on: b & w – 2 choices, trying to be cute, righteous, idealistic, not making others feel good
/how bad do you want ed if you drop out. Moreso in wc, lc?
/ did ban… say the u chase more int in public service?
/ bourgeoisie – (in Marxist theory) the class that, in contrast to the proletariat or wage-earning class, is primarily concerned with property values.
Marxist theory, the social group opposed to the proletariat in the class struggle.
Marx distinguished between the “haute” (high) bourgeoisie (industrialists and financiers) and the “petite” (small or “petty”) bourgeoisie (shopkeepers, self-employed artisans, lawyers).
/redneck humor was reading politically correct version of snow-Caucasian to kids for a bit, closed it and said how he’d tell it [all rehearsed]. Big applause, some on their feet, which said to me they feel that repressed.
/people in humble positions [temporarily or longer]: houbens having to rent to 3, Indian woman selling gum, hmless?, those in market research, sec guards, thrift shops, bums, semi-retards like alfredo and little paul, mingo and don, [me], ils I hired for $4/hr. wanted more work.
/neighbors here are sure better than mc
/ hoi polloi -the masses, sometimes misused in ref to uc. Hoity toidy is another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoi_polloi – hard.
/knickerbocker grays or greys
/the right people by Stephen Birmingham our crowd by him too
/ Birmingham,S. The Right People. 1969
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Birmingham, Stephen. The Right People: A Portrait of the American Social Establishment. New York: Dell, 1969. 325 pages. This book is a relic from the 1960s … |
/wanamakers
Total Manor Makeover By DOMINIQUE BROWNING How the Rockefellers planned, built, feuded over and rebuilt their Hudson Valley estate.
Many Qualified for Child Health Plan Don’t Enroll By KEVIN SACK
Nearly 30 percent of children who are eligible for state-sponsored health care have yet to enroll, a study says.
/guy said wade davis was hamburger
/…. said he use to feel up …..
/gibbs: parents night in laguna – most showed up. In orange, only 3 did
/I thnk in greenwich village they’re bored
/free here to be country western, hippy, nascar, dumb as you want?
/country western, fatalistic – feel they screw up and do it more …..? so if they can laugh at themselves, it makes it better. like their music
/scot’s transportation: loud & scratchy, kept looking at me as if to engage me in the talk, slow to see a pedestrian, starts and stops too fast, kept promoting himself,
/redneck know they’re going to screw up. Said jeff Foxworthy
/guy in national truck kept washing his food down.
/joey rubbed the wallpaper when he should have touched it gently
/…………..’s sister doesn’t learn eng – probably understandable, but blows what she earns.
/some classmates send schmaltzy patriotic stuff. Re troops in iraq. Blu collar. Misses the pt.
/so dumb for you and your friends to parade their implants
/on baker st, people used to go thru our property as shortcut. Why did folks put up with it.
/ nouveaux riche Nouveau riche – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Nouveau riche (French for “new rich“), or new money refers to persons who acquire wealth within their generation. It is generally used to emphasize that the … |
/latinos who put flyers and little newspapers in plastic on your door.
/humble jobs I’ve had: Bloomindales, some factory on the west side. Some rooming hse in d.c.
/lot of blue collar humor is crude like black humor – as if to prove how crude they are
/overheated and unclean air? In 99 feb 08
/if equal, we have to be the same, so wc is meant to feel they have to be something they are not – go thru college, and the uc is constantly saying how mc they are
/blue collar tv, country fried home videos, jeff Greenfield and the 3 others
Urban cowboy, country music awards, Nashville,
/distrust of the masses
/industrial rev created the mc , said hist ch
/telesfor …… missing front teeth. Mrs b played bingo – minor
/you live in a big city, you have to put up with weirdos. You live outside, you have to put up with rednecks
/classical destinations – program on TV. One on Vienna was great. – this similar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class = dup?
/sully, gills didn’t get the boola
/couldn’t get maslaniks to peale, linc cent, ballet, moks
Could get shoe repairman to opera
/old neigh was awful again. 4/08 LOUD gal in big lots, crummy people vs Asians some of whom do NOT belong there.
/you see pix of bright kids; you only want to work with them, not the others. Same with adults – those with class.
/fire extinguisher up a woman. Pix of it. why and why send em around to a dr, and why would he forward em?
/c span guests and those that call in.
/country-western is almost an ethnic grp
/wc tells you how to react, flag jump. The uc doesn’t.
/wake forest must be some special univ. never heard of it
/Best Is the New Worst By SUSAN JACOBY The word “elite,” once an accolade, has turned poisonous in American public life, as both the left and the right have twisted it into a code word meaning “not one of us.”
/chubby worker with hi voice at arby’s was spending $l50/wk on gas. With 8 cyc. Switched to 4 now that gas is 4.50. his mom gets up at 3 in riverside to drive to n.b. to work from 5 till 3. latinos. humble positions. Sobering
/more misfits, sociopaths in bad neighborhoods. Like tenant who cursed when working on car. get involved, takes time,
/preppy handbook and the I hate preppies handbook
/the lst kaleidoscope in Irvine. [guy in undershirt]. The ones after declined.
Hard to find quality
/gary cut down that great dollar leaf eucalyptus tree of his. as tired of raking?
/brighter people analyze more, more cr,
/send you stuff that scares you – python.
/Country fried videos of people getting hurt, even injured.
/raunchy tour in night of the iquana and tesdell’s tours
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Crusader Sees Wealth as Cure for India Caste Bias By SOMINI SENGUPTA Chandra Bhan Prasad’s latest crusade is to argue that India’s economic liberalization is about to do the unthinkable: destroy the caste system.
/some anti gentrification movement in pr ? ny
/images has some charts etc on this
/rednecks – self-destructive, almost a death wish?
/ g-dropping. – runn’n, go’n, climb’n like Clinton
/tape of helicopter accident repeated l0 times ! thus shown ll times. during report on it. on one of these scariest vids? ….
/those who call cops are snitches. Too dumb to know the cops help.
/Sergio hse was watched in s.a. got robbed lots.
/ The Class War Before Palin By DAVID BROOKS Over the past few decades, Republican political tacticians decided to mobilize their coalition with a form of social class warfare.
/tv said Jackie 0 became a prisoner of the Camelot legend she helped create.
/lumpenproletariat – people regarded as living on the margins of society, particularly criminals, homeless people, and the long-term unemployed
/Who Is in the Middle? By EDUARDO PORTER The candidates may enthuse about all they intend to do for the “middle class,” but how do they define this segment of American society? Nyt
/how can Raycelle heat the room all nite when she could have me buy an elec blanket. She doesn’t like lot of blankets.
/chas said irv is all asscs, too many restrictions. That’s all he knows. University hi is the best, but if average, you get d’s or f’s and can’t get into uci.
/NYT doesn’t have blinking, moving things on its site, nor the l.a. times. The register sure does. Yuk
/jac and m limit selves by not getting into ibm. Like hap
/did dave gibbs say the south end was the tuff end? he was surprised at the $ of donna kay dye, susan musfelt, the crowdy’s.
/one div had 5 : lc, lmc, mc, upper mc, uc
/billy joel said you never backed down in his neigh
Bill oreilly said the same. he came from Levittown, long is. hit it right on the head
/zeta-t’s love to be victums and tau mega’s love to say there’s no problem. Same in other examples: wc vs uc
/bright people can deduce and learn. Others have to learn the hard way – by exp
/horatio alger, social Darwinism, protestant work ethic,
/pri schs strengthen the class sys… in eng.
/internal and external migrants are always more successful james fallows saw honors on hi sch? Wall: the Haitians go the academic honors, the am blacks got the b-ball honors
/libs miss pt on lc and wc.
/gi bill students were best as were the most motivated. College admin… resisted em
/red lining = appraisal standards. For ins? Banks?
/lst gen makes the fortune, 2nd exploits it, 3rd fizzles
/how do diff c… treat animals
/guen saw the ladies in their hats at the Kentucky derby as u.c. snobs?
/limited people – /guy caregiver staying here as a favor. Joey. Maria. Seems limited in some ways. I had a couple of semi retarded guys at the old hse. could hold jobs and drive but could be taken advantage of. Sad, yoda, alfredo,
/monarchies promote classes, class rigidity, unreality
/immel said so s.a. didn’t feel less
/people want to believe the kennedy’s are cursed so they can keep worshipping em and not grow up either.
/I think aud in jerry springer goes to feel sup… to the guests, ask close to their level. Later backs off some
/ ‘He was not perfect, but my father believed in redemption. And he never surrendered.”EDWARD M. KENNEDY Jr., at his father’s funeral.
/vita craft girls, buffim’s girls, = working girls. I couldn’t wait till the kids came hm from c.
/john Wilson said again, someone was hamburger
/Ban: foresight, talent, tolerance, privacy, ambition, and interest in college. [all of which are talent, ambition and values, backgrounds . They are not equal in talent and ambition and often opportunities,. fix
/ www.peopleofwalmart.com – proof
/nat said something bout rutan and tucker being uc and he and rest were the bourgeoisie
/some don’t like trees: gary, guy who bot my hse
/class can be for the insecure.
/the public trough
/search Brooklyn complex
/young couple at roadside stand in the fall. Understated. Refined, all the best schools, in her prime. Lucky guy.
/ The ‘Highly Qualified Teacher’ Dodge Recent decisions in Washington continue to allow poorer schools to be disproportionately staffed by unqualified teachers. Ll/09
/Class War at Public Universities Do taxpayers subsidize well-off students in California?
/some teen Indian hostess at restaurant. One Chinese gal at mcdonalds. Another in white sweater in some hm. Gals you protect. Little gal with class in black at midway sch. Also carol kim. Great one at lb st walked by. Another asian at uci
/High School’s Last Test By J. B. SCHRAMM and E. KINNEY ZALESNE
High schools must now show how they increase both college enrollment and the number of students who complete at least a year of college.
/surprised to hear one guy say someone was ‘hamburger’. Said it bout another guy too, yrs later. Sounds like an insensitive snob. Clumsy
/why not lst class etc in mass transit
/blk gal collecting signature at walmart had one tooth on top. Have to admire her
/stubby gal at exit to w-mart
/phone keeps ringing there – sometimes answered. Welfare too
/take cotton puffs
/off… and enlisted
/nascar
/best buy in wm bad; here it’s good. Same with stater
/patti labell said they’d have to sell new song with outlandish costumes
/should monarchies be in the article.
/I try to liven keith’s hse up and strike out? Like guy in pr did with me
/those who didn’t go to c: mary howell, those who went later. Any feelings bout that? Fred & those who got ba’s or ma’s who didn’t benefit. Go thru the roster. Moks. Tina, m.
/ http://www.peopleofwalmart.com /
/ Red Family, Blue Family By ROSS DOUTHAT When it comes to marriage and teen pregnancy rates, there’s more than one America.
/hobo’s lullaby . hobo jungles were camps
/you could write a story about little paul – yoda, alfredo, maria
That geo guy ended up on a bike pulling stuff
/economist: Victorian england relished the caste system of india. Wow
/our sys better: stars rise and fall according to public approval – oj, Kennedys,
/regil said top and bottom are the same – corrupt
/rednecks looked down on blks as at least they weren’t black
/“The rich are different: they are more ruthless.”SAM KHATER, an economist on why the rich have stopped paying their mortgages at a rate that exceeds the rest of the population. [too hard. And some bs]
/am seeing some of the old class stuff with chattering saints and moto mail that I saw in hi sch – raunch, sleeze, anger, gossipy, low brow
/he’s hamburger. J Wilson said this twice of 2 diff people.
/what did sahs drop outs feel like, or c drop outs, or those who didn’t get into grad sch or finish, or those who breezed thru. Nat vs immel. Those who after hi sch went into serv, or right to work,
/little princess who didn’t belong at mc sch., nor did carol kim.
/Why the Wealthy Never Retire For most Americans, dwindling savings, falling investments and rising prices means that the idea of retirement faded long ago. But surely the wealthy can retire in style. Except that, according to a new study, they don’t want to.
/ag: the dem of the media – cable, net …. Has shown how the masses go for junk – oreilly, donahue?, mma, wwf,
/the regulars in the cg, regulars at buffims, and at mary lu’s factory job
/as crude and dumb as you get –
/top l0% are paying 70% of the income tax. L0/l0
/Fast Track to Inequality By BOB HERBERT A new book offers the best explanation to date for the extreme concentration of wealth and income in the U.S.
/don’t want to remember back east: the few guys dressed like pimps, pimpmobiles in d.c., glad rags of some blacks, things I can’t think of but don’t want to remember like this I saw back east, ghettos? Slums of philly, d.c. ny, must have seen idiots on the subway. Some Puerto ricans in their net undershirts. Could be worse since I was there as it’s gotten worse here.
/I never said a word to steve ebbert? on the corner as I didn’t like the way he was running the neighborhood down. Didn’t have any contact with his kids, didn’t want any. But I had?
/sergio added another story. Good masonry wk in front. Boom box. Later his rv parked on his prop in front of the hse. Wow
/gal with teeth, beverly, hired at lq. Gal with wig at mc sch. I got her yearbook by chance. Suicidal guy in library that as in my b & c. those with humble jobs. Torch, son or rick richardson. Doug winton in sahs. Had a sister. Elvin greenhagen.
/what did k mean by sara and bob worked one of these parties.
/laura ingram says elite colleges look down on the mil.
*Banfield, Gilder, Hazlitt.
/learning about class snobbery – lack of credit and empathy via k, cuz, s, suzie goode,
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Rising Wealth Inequality: Should We Care? Why do Americans seem unperturbed about the growing gap between the rich and the poor? Nyt 3/ll
/people who don’t clean their rugs. G, her friend,
/return of the class sys on cruises – 2.
The Return of the Class System
/tj and jay didn’t want to study, pri schs didn’t help
/general pub can be pandered to by jerry springer, barnum, and thus by pols.
/marginal white collar makes blu look bad?
/wrong: men who wor
/hoi polloi
/class shows in biz? And visa versa?
/the lynches in NY used to yell and get it over with. Not the sullivans or I couldn’t hear em. Am chopper hashes it all out, whether the cameras are there or not. Fix
Real profane blow up walking in front of hse on haz
/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_middle_class
/ http://www.doughroller.net/personal-finance/the-difference-between-white-collar-and-blue-collar/
/wrecking soya grass at anna’s. cutting trees
/elvis did a couple of serious flix , then they switched low brow
/why get lifts, then wear tight clothes
/can’t afford to have ‘vision’ or don’t have it. Balledos
/can’t get some from alex… to bloomingdales, nor to linc cent, nor to n v peale. Couldn’t get shoe guy to opera – even with tickets
/sat nite fever showed the imperatives of class said bio …
/to sir with love
/dog the bounty hunter’s wife, beth, said she was a terror when young.
/barker said his fam never talked about $.
/rent rm from lwv for $5 and blow it on food and toss out leftovers
/more polished, smoother, more dip…
/ The Social Contract By PAUL KRUGMAN With shrieks of “class warfare” going back and forth in Washington, a closer look at the data shows just what class warfare looks like.
/ag: the lower classes like blood sports, pro wrestling
/talk with toothpick in your mouth
/sacrifice to send kids to pri sch, c, nursing sch – to arrive here, buy new car, treat many to mimi’s, turn down paper marriage, …
/who makes comment about one’s ma.
/hank williams jr? on hannity – just as ignorant as possible
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Who’s Your Baby’s Daddy?
The following are all replies that Detroit women have written on Child Support Agency Forms in the section for listing ‘Father’s Details,’ or putting it another way… Who’s your baby’s Daddy? These are genuine excerpts from the forms.
Be sure to check out #11, it takes 1st prize and #3 is runner up.
1. Regarding the identity of the father of my twins, Makeeshia was fathered by Maclearndon McKinley I am unsure as to the identity of the father of Marlinda, but I believe that she was conceived on the same night.
2… I am unsure, as to the identity of the father of my child as I was being sick out of a window when taken unexpectedly from behind. I can provide you with a list of names of men that I think were at the party if this helps.
3. I do not know the name of the father of my little girl. She was conceived at a party at 3600 East Grand Boulevard where I had sex with a man I met that night. I do remember that the sex was so good that I fainted. If you do manage to track down the father, can you please send me his phone number? Thanks… (The runner-up).
4. I don’t know the identity of the father of my daughter. He drives a BMW that now has a hole made by my stiletto in one of the door panels. Perhaps you can contact BMW service stations in this area and see if he’s had it replaced.
5. I have never had sex with a man. I am still a Virginian. I am awaiting a letter from the Pope confirming that my son’s conception was ejaculate and that he is the Saver risen again.
6. I cannot tell you the name of Alleshia’s dad as he informs me that to do so would blow his cover and that would have cataclysmic implications for the economy I am torn between doing right by you and right by the country.. Please advise.
7. I do not know who the father of my child was as they all look the same to me.
8. Tyrone Hairston is the father of child A. If you do catch up with him, can you axe him what he did with my AC/DC CDs? Child B who was also borned at the same time….. well, I don’t have clue..
9. From the dates it seems that my daughter was conceived at Disney World. Maybe it really is the Magic Kingdom.
10. So much about that night is a blur. The only thing that I remember for sure is Delia Smith did a program about eggs earlier in the evening. If I had stayed in and watched more TV rather than going to the party at 8956 Miller Ave, mine might have remained unfertilized.
11. I am unsure as to the identity of the father of my baby, after all, like when you eat a can of beans you can’t be sure which one made you fart. (This made number #1).
REMEMBER, WHEN THE WEALTH IS REDISTRIBUTED THESE PEOPLE WILL BE THE MAJOR RECIPIENTS
/not sure this belongs here: some don’t know north south – pat wouldn’t take the freeways.
/ they never look into those who got their hearts broken in all levels of schooling and work
/rank and file
/……………..said the $l00 seats were bot by that no. s.a. crowd. You know
/$ means you can live in a gated comm.
/the NY daily news
/archie bunkers always yelling. Maslaneks too. Hurt my ears
/short muscle guy in wal-mart – tons of little people. Much shorter gal at return line
/eng: monarchs, dukes, earls, barons. Same fams of l00 servants with a hierachy.
/lack of int in learning how to write better, tho a col grad and nursing sch grad. Wanting to be a masseuse after all that.
/m – your gentle, upper class lifestyle of manners, taste, discernment, understatement, subtlety, pleasantness, education, professionalism ……
/g: in pi, some move to suburbs and act like they don’t know their previous neighbors
/shaker heights
/edward c or g banfield – net has both
/you’d think moto, big on eth stuff, could dress up for mex integrat… event
/takes a gen to move up one class dup
/this is from a joke but makes you wonder if various classes go for diff sports?
1. The sport of choice for the urban poor is BASKETBALL. 2. The sport of choice for maintenance level employees is BOWLING. 3. The sport of choice for front-line workers is FOOTBALL. 4. The sport of choice for supervisors is BASEBALL. 5. The sport of choice for middle management is TENNIS. 6. The sport of choice for corporate executives and officers is GOLF. Nascar, polo, hockey, boxing, blood sports, chess, cards,
/must be the immature that wallow in power – tractor pulls?, guns, power, naked women, cheap thrills, nasty stuff on tv, fighting, wrecks, injuries, evil kenivel, reps, j springer,
/the less talented get taken advantage of. G?,
/ rich couple on subway during bus strike.
/ well dressed normal couple quietly observing bohemians massed in central park
/have to be realistic bout ambition and talent. So no heartbreak like ag
/the rich downplay their wealth to avoid resentment, envy, being patronized, security for selves and kids,
/trees in n.w. dc but not on c st. rail tracks there? they never took up.
/why such an effort to be odd in mother’s market and do all backwards – dumb conversations at check out counter, watch caps, tattoo on cleavage, – re
/g spoon cut his tree
/49% of ams pay no fed inc. tax
/lots of trees around styvesant town but few around the projects. Same const?
Two Classes, Divided by ‘I Do’ By JASON DePARLE Motherhood outside marriage now varies by class about as much as it does by race, and changes in family structure have broadened income gaps and posed new barriers to upward mobility. 7/l2
/lot of the high powered move to Greenwich conn. –
/chain link screens on balconies of low income projects but not mc projects
/vertical slums, urinate in elevators
/trees west of newland, but much fewer east of it. gary chopped his, new owner of my hse chopped mine
/the rich don’t want you to like em for their $
/ag: if over ed, you can be unrealistic bout your soc life? – weak
/bkk: miserably loud mcdonalds vs quieter starbucks vs probably very quiet Japanese restaurant
/rich downplay their wealth to reduce or avoid envy, jealousy, patronizing, fakes, ownplay their wealth to reduce or avoid envy, jealousy, patronizing, entry of …
/projects same mid inc? former has chain link screening on balcs? Trees
/koz. I wonder bout his b.a. must have been an officer in nam. Ended at army times
Similar to sam?
/I saw Rudolph bing
/the right people. Our crowd. Both? By Stephen Birmingham
/mr shute was classy, who else?
/a redneck usually hates everything
/g: class stuff in pi. Some here forget that everyone is equal here. Wow. Who cares if you have lots of land in pi, you’re in am. Now. Great.
/talking to someone bright is like not speaking their language, knowing the expressions, slang …
/every time I go to walmart
/peter Detmold
/opening of new walmart – reg staff and the supervisors in their black suits.
/fry’s where the staff wear clothes that look like they are draped on them – just hanging on them
/alexanders vs. bloomindales
/an employment agency in NY ad… for attractive, poise, charm. And the women in their waiting room were!ear, late birthdate, no invited out on boats like hutch, those
/lack of grace
/refugees from del taco that made up the crews hanging the cable on tel poles for cable tv on tel poles
/some don’t know north south ea west. Some don’t take freeways as don’t understand em. Some don’t understand in-out therm. Many can’t give directions. Some don’t know how to count the change
/eng in l9l2: …. dukes, earls, barons, . the manor staff had a hierarchy too: housekeeper & butler, lady maid, footmen, house maids, kit & scullery maids. Only those with land could vote.
/someone I know goes to medley concerts, rose parade, and bud sold those plaques.
/mng guys in suits? At opening of new walmart.
/mc notary blurred – had to take it back
/gt cars : it all fit, bumpy crowded st, mostly indust so who would want to live across the st in that run down place. Upper Tijuana, guy turned on super smoky car. Wow. Then big grin to laugh it off. Dark grungy shop. …….office. http://www.gtcarsautorepair.com/index.html blu jeans, worker there who seemed a bit diff. loud people nearby, 2 grubbys walked by.
/need more speed berms in bad, dumb neighborhoods
/sparklets truck hit a manhole that some had done something to the cover with? In mc
/shopping carts around which neighborhoods.
/some sch mates went to the rose parade this yr – 0l3. They also go to …….concerts
/moto sends gross stuff of fishing accidents with blood etc.
/jim mcpadden said some envy those stiff necks in rums
/can’t tell you what it’s worth to get away from barking dogs – you had to gather a complaint signed by 5 neighbors.
/You‘ll find us rough, sir, but you‘ll find us ready
/more and louder radios with w.c.?
/mounce, barker, brooks, ralphy, tim butler, don tyler?, mingo, mary web, bob low, nat glover, moto
/o’reilly and billy joel grew up in neighs where you never turned the other cheek
/little princess at mc sch didn’t fit. She was too fine. Same with carol kim
/dr. ben + love to make fun of the less privileged
/how did the blues here and everywhere feel bout not going to c
/what did c do for the people I knew and know. Any affected by sex, alc, religion, radicalism, gamble, drugs, crime, love, preg,
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don’t overinterpret this:
% of calif law grads in 011 who found full time, long term jobs as lawyers
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School |
Percentage (%) |
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Stanford |
91.1 |
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UC Berkeley |
80.0 |
|
USC |
64.7 |
|
UCLA |
61.3 |
|
UC Davis |
56.4 |
|
U. of San Diego |
46.9 |
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UC Hastings |
46.5 |
|
McGeorge |
43.6 |
|
Santa Clara |
42.9 |
|
Pepperdine |
42.8 |
|
Loyola Marymount |
42.7 |
|
Chapman |
40.1 |
|
Calif. Western |
39.3 |
|
Southwestern |
34.6 |
|
U. of San Francisco |
34.2 |
|
La Verne |
32.8 |
|
Western State |
32.2 |
|
Thomas Jefferson |
26.7 |
|
Golden Gate |
22.0 |
|
Whittier College |
17.1 |
Source: American Bar Assn.
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/some emails of class ahead are almost a contest to see who can find the raunchiest, grassiest, grosses sex in every form. Also jokes have to have shock value with the worst profanity.
/insecure people have a way of backing off: your jokes are less funny, their conversation is more important; they interrupt more, they laugh thru their teeth at you; they laugh at you, not with you. They make you feel your grammar, pronunciation, table manners etc aren’t up to par
/one fall a young couple stopped by a roadside stand. The woman was so refined – at her peak. Classy, well dressed. Should be in an ad
/cg’s reaction to induction cooking vs mine: / cooked thru the meat better. softer when done,
/sum: faster, cooler, safter, cleaner?, cooler to work at, a cooler kit in summer, cheaper, easier to clean?, more efficient as can cook in stages, easier as can vary the temp far easier, accurately and faster.
/early belief there is a class that can’t control themselves. No booze for them. Some laws tho racially based
/hardcore pawn
/Dianne sawyer
/the leela inn hotel in bkk: staff, customers – breakfast out for hours
/why does hardcore pawn have so much more serious trouble than pawn stars?
/Talladega nights, will farrel as ricky bobby. Makes fun of rednecks. How do they take it
/one google animation or doodle. had old fashion cars going along at night, manned balloon going by moon, apt lights on and off, steamship, shooting star, piano music – familiar classical piece, people rowing, 2 boats pass each other, rain, umbrella, http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/22/claude-debussy-google-doodle
Here it is – finally, at last. Valuable –
better sound and vid qual on this? –
/dup: rich downplay their wealth etc as don’t need the envy, jealousy, resentment
/not class, but what?: bob a….. said why not whoosh the flies away from the baby’s face
/upper crust of ….. the starchy preserve of the ……….elite who quietly conduct biz over whiskeys or games of bridge.
/Dianne sawyer
/chum lee’s housewarming party
/such a thing as a blu collar frat?
/cut trees down – gary, guy who bot my place
/redneck tv: violent, injuries, almost never call police. Combative, assaultive,
/wk teaches you some can take those jobs – buffims, factories,
/weak: pay cops once and pri security twice and pri investigator – third time?
/repo guys said they never had a gun pointed at em, but worst part was not getting the car.
/sahs: hutch, how could tirico be so insensitive, guys into serv, martin, pri c, Shapiro?, minorities, moto vs bro, immel, steve brooks, barker, hamburger, poor boy from so s.a., discrim all my life, one guy got out of mil, some still act superior, s.a. vs Irvine, Newport, the fairness, mendes vs wm, moto to mex sch, white to hoover, those that let health slide, those at top are quick,
/weak: people I know needed a cabinet, yet disregarded one that seemed to be repairable.
/the way some people around here eat. ……I bet …..doesn’t like it
/look up the Brooklyn complex.
/Dianne sawyer , ageless, 68, in 0l4
/an air of eur…. Soph….
/one beatle said they were wc and never tried to be anything else
/Michael cane said british flix about officers; am flix bout all
/cliff couldn’t learn how to read
/haven’t heard the term underclass is yrs
/r goodman: His every statement advertised that he was a blue blood, with his clench-jawed diction, dated vocabulary and patrician circumlocutions. a P. G. Wodehouse character
/if you have class and live in a slum, it’s awful
/rocky is wc
/couldn’t get mm to dr. peale or linc cent. Or shoe man to linc c
/here in lw there are no dogs that bark forever!
/some flail their hands too close to your face
/no s.a. gardens at one party. One told of her pa’s work.
/fdr doted on. Went to sch, didn’t get along, but was taught to keep it all in and always appear that all was fine. Ty ty
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/I knew one of the nicest famlies who grew up in a foreign country. 2 parents, 7 kids, in a house with one bathroom. [There HAD to be a way to fashion another bathroom.] Parents saved to send one or more kids to private schools. Then one to college, graduated, then to nursing school, graduated. I don’t know about the others. The one came here under a false name, took the nursing exam, flunked. All that education for what? During that time she overstayed her visa, got bad and expensive advice from a paralegal to marry a guy who took advantage of her financially. Immigration saw thru the phony marriage and started a case to deport her. She paid one lawyer to effect a divorce and another to stop the deportation. During this time she was a caregiver for 15 yrs. She was The family bot one new car and bot another which was probably new. Huge mistakes if you’re poor.
That the end of the first part.
2nd part: One of her realtives got all sorts of medical treatment. The taxes he paid probably never could have paid for it. He didn’t keep up his cardio and died.
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/I’m tired of poor people, wc, religious people, fakes, those hung up on class,
/gal at picnic, v.g., said she was from the other end when being invited to join asst league
/people mag: r rated comedies are often dumbed down for tv
/you work your way up and don’t need incompetents like rite aid getting my birthdate wrong and not being able to correct it, the fed ex truck with loud music …………you pay more for good serv, but you don’t have time for bad serv. It’s like hi sch and c – only the key people can get things done.
/ag: won’t condescend to empathy
/dog the bounty hunter at a bk signing – id with and helps those with fewer privileges.
/smith says the quality of people has gone down in skiing
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau_riche
/tie in with rel…? in holding back women, slavery
/j. mcpadden said he kind of envied those stiff necks at rums
/frys where their clothes are draped on them. Opening day? At Walmart where the mng guys were in their black suits. Silo or sam ash where they don’t look at you and care less. Scene at buffims once. One time I was eating some empty place and a group of 5 women were full of airs. Performers or something.
/they don’t mind boring jobs – lifeguards, cg’s,
/gum-snappers
/vita craft girls
/grace. M had it. Asian do
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/what was it about the kennedys or was it john – smugness? Patronizing, Aloofness? Taking selves too seriously, the worshipping of them, their making their own rules, the baloney of the kennedy curse.
/hoi polloi – the masses –
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hoi+polloi
/sometimes the minister, with an aide, at riverside would meet the public. Cultured aloofness
/class knows no bounds to cruelty, apathy, denial. Look at mine
/radios in outdoor work. Not in lw so far
/I sure feel better in a better neigh. Everyone must.
/beatles were working class. said they never tried to be anything they weren’t
/I felt sorry for little guy at Walmart who worked out. what about alex
/search people that go to the store every day
/ https://socl120.wordpress.com/category/social-location/
/am legion built a large metal bldg. which had loud dances next to apts
/ever think about those who use laundromats, check cashing services,
Search def of wc and mc
/thots of clothes, classy people, linc cent, taste, ed, manners, moks,
/Ingrid bergman
/refugees from del taco hanging cable which made the tel poles bend. Hair, loud, talking bout their pri life loud ? on pole. Pushed care 20 ft
/wc at silo and sam dash don’t look at you. think more about their date last nite
/’managers’ in blk suits at opening of Walmart
/ Britain’s prurient fascination with privilege.
/judge and criminal recognize ea other from middle sch – utube
/those who retire on ss vs those who collect it and keep on working
/rosie the riveter – told to save $ for hse; no blew it on fox furs
/country music country western
/couldn’t find Beekman place purple glass – https://www.google.com/search?q=house+entry+lamps&biw=1200&bih=571&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMIuPL_oZrPyAIVj5SICh002wvQ#tbm=isch&q=antique+exterior+house+lamp
try same for light and got –
/how can one couple spend so much when they can’t stand being apart
/a better neigh means ……….
I read this:
/ http://www.amazon.com/The-Right-People-Portrait-Establishment/dp/B0006BU2U6
/ https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=the+right+people+birmingham
/once you release those with talent, they take off and benefit all in the long run – after rr lowered the tax rate, and CHINA. Graph any correlation
/learning from the sts
/cable guys were refugees from del taco
/noise from above so sandy had to buy a noise machine to sleep
/what do the rich and poor do about unplanned preg….
/look what happened to sen chas percy’s daughter
/talented 10%
/why so much emphasis on boxing in poor neigh… why is it the only way out
/various ‘classes’ in trains, boats, planes
/some less privileged kids learn 2 ways to talk- sch and neigh
/blk princ so hurt when girls in hi sch dressed cheap for a dance
/the sig of classes: lc, don’t save wc, mc and uc don’t need guilt, global…., c!, im? Eth, skin color in ir?, entitlements?
/nothing in common with vita craft girls
/shark tank vs ‘West Texas Investors Club’, blue collar millionaires? Venture capital [show]
/a working class neigh began to be gentrified – bushwick? In brkln
/hoi polio
/regardless of how many classes there are, etc. the sig is : guilt, victims, waste, i, pity, mobility, ed, entitlements & subsidies, human nature – corruption – exploitation, vision, lifestyle,
/to sir with love
/life’s not fair – tommy barker the hunk
/mounce puts on facebk – women’s ass size study
/how you feel bout irish, and all the issues
/not class but ………………. The uso girls in seattle
/gentrification involve gov?
/wrecked that good lawn of k soya grass where anna used to live.
/smith’s bunch: not wearing hoodies
/ https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Social+Class+in+the+United+States&FORM=IRMHRE
/kind of envied those stiff necks at rums
/I didn’t have much in common with working girls, during vita craft
/it’s what you do and do NOT do
/gaither hymns timelife.com/gaitherhymns
/brad has guy working for him who has 7 kids. Shouldn’t have told me in front of him.
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A thousand years of smits in those facebook pix, but no saggy pants, headbands, undershirts, cap on sideways in restaurants, dreadlocks, shirttails hanging out, tattoos, piercings, gross table manners, bleeped out words, shades, tank tops, untied tennies with no socks, scruffy torn jeans, iridescent hair in faces, gang signs, loudness, toughness, macho. ‘inflated’ womens, terrible grammar , grunge, punk, hip hop, t shirts in …..
/diff in stater bros in wm and here. deli
/see housing
/sig? – https://www.bing.com/search?q=difference+between+working+and+middle+class&FORM=QSRE5
/search auctioneer’s cadence
/there was a cop at the back of the traffic school for a moment
/tabloids worse in eng? Any connections with class sys?
/when selling vita craft or out of c for a long time, I couldn’t wait for the c kids to come home. But maybe that was fleeting
Irvine spectrum: orged. Clean, bit heavy on music, macy’s quit, why so many people and what do they do? No blks, few latinos, tons of Asians. Beguiling youth, unaware of their charm, potential. Families, many tots. Few tatoos if any. No undershirts, one tank top. Kids go to fake grass on a slight slope and to fountains. Great teens. No loud people. parking sys was incredible. lot of valet parking. Clean cut. Refreshing parade of humanity. Seemed to beg for a dance area but that would have to be in the parking lot. I should go to that dark restaurant with no name outside. Was it classy? Dogs. Idea: petting dogs . tons of vids on the place. Kids run thru fountain I missed. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=irvine+spectrum&FORM=HDRSC3
[vs s cst plaza] an energy. People feed off ea other. look up how the parking works. No fast food. Ice skating still?
/Roseanne barr
/repo
/ wiki: In the United States the lowest stratum of the working class, the underclass, often lives in urban areas with low-quality civil services.
/ Smit, A thousand years of smits in those facebook pix, but no saggy pants, headbands, undershirts, cap on sideways in restaurants, dreadlocks, shirttails hanging out, tattoos, piercings, gross table manners, bleeped out words, shades, tank tops, untied tennies with no socks, scruffy torn jeans, iridescent hair in faces, gang signs, loudness, toughness, macho. ‘inflated’ womens, terrible grammar , grunge, punk, hip hop, grungy shirts
/maslaniks might have felt out of place at linc c. or bloomingdales?
/those middle agers in market research in NY – must have been a lot of stories
/easier here in lw. I don’t have to see a lot of lousy stuff.
/deli in stater………here, but not in wm
/sushi bar in ralphs
/kaleidoscope vs d-land
/I start to feel sorry for some workers at Walmart. Fix
/no deli in wm stater bros, but one here
/desegregation allowed the mc to move out leaving the ghettos w/o some of their leaders.
/by the end of the voyage 10% have most of the $ and power.
/repo, parking wars, auctions
/those who stay in the mil
/to sir with love
/many here had privileges and never made it big
/refugees from del taco
/someone on tv said ams don’t get the layers of snobbery in eng, who enters the room first … one gal who married in said hardest part was learning how to set a table.
/you’d think those latino clients in manulkin’s waiting room would dress better, take off outdoor jacket?, not slouch. Did one have a hat? The noisy sliding glass window was also a turnoff.
/jeff doesn’t have much int in vegas.
/radio city music hall
/mgm
/dina Merrill , well bread scion, the epitome of class. Aristocratic poise
/rich couple on subway during bus strike [might have overdone it?]
/aoc said moving to a better neigh in her youth made huge diff
/prep sch. ralph allen
/aplomb – self-assurance, confidence
/ https://classtester.com/ = 0
/cora rosevear, jicella, john Stanford, countryman, ralph allen, m. comber, walter geiger, lynn able, mr. Schutte,
/nobless oblige, white man’s burden, to rule, upper crust, aristocracy. In conn: Greenwich, Stamford, darien. Stepford wives
/ the right people, our crowd, heraldry,
/ monarchies reinforce it all
The yuppie handbook, and the preppy handbook
/nouveau riche – https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=%22Sloane+Ranger+Handbook%22&form=HDRSC2&first=1&scenario=ImageHoverTitle
/ https://www.bing.com/search?q=Nouveau+Riche&FORM=HDRSC1
/working on your teeth while talking to colleque in next booth. Wm. Far worse with glover. Ear puffs
/long driveways
/seedy class along the beach said Disney
/Asian hostess at restaurant, Chinese? Gal at macdonalds
/some get the following, some don’t: afs, ny, tik tok, moks, tina
/ which society uses a class system – Bing
`/ for sp: class semi sig as; blame, econ, crime, poor ims, wc, ed, rh, eth
/labor official, former union man, on tv: better pay so wc can move into mc. [as if something’s wrong with wc]
/who is concerned about social classes
/do social classes matter
The Effects of Exposure to Better Neighborhoods on …
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Feb 21, 2016 · We find that moving to a lower-poverty neighborhood significantly improves college attendance rates and earnings for children who were young (below age 13) when their families moved. These children also live in better neighborhoods themselves as adults and are less likely to become single parents. The treatment effects are substantial: children …
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Social Class and Government Policy
hist
are there classes and what diff does it make. bunker, etc?
/in bible decendants of ham condemned. st. aug used this to justify slavery and others to justify serfdom. similar in koran and in hindu castes.
/it is central to indian and other asiatic soc, but of marginal int in west. vertical order.
/we got our idea that the top is all locked up from eng. [libs milk it]
that soc is structured to keep people in their places.
pol revs
communism marx – classless, but left out mc. -/ ussr tried to do away with officers. red guards.
socialism soc just.. health, ed, housing, law, justice. /mw /uib /day care /ss, subsidies for farm, bailouts.
cap cap for the individ?
/on the enterprise of the few and the labor of many.
/The large salaries of the few are irrelevant when considering the many jobs and valuable products they create. ‑ Trying to redistribute the wealth of those few is pointless and suicidal.
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entrepreneurs have emerged, due to 7 yrs of growth, tax cuts and drop in unions. /the intellectual left = chattering classes. agnostic about thatcher rev. say greed is sapping nat. spirit and bringing selfishness. 4 in l0 blus back cons.! l/2 of blus advance?
housing skip /lo, mid, & upper inc housing
slum or bad
/pushing poor out as a class? deal? vs econ.
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working class
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/mc blks keeping lc blks out
mc & uc
/lot of uc and others move as far as possible from the lc and wc?
crime, -grafitti, drop outs, bums, schs . pol power?
laws favor ll or tenant – but save this till end?
ed
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wk
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/can’t expect all to have the int and talent to be top. bunker
/menial work. intellects look down on such work, said tv
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/wkmn’s comp. better for blus
/do corps and agr subsidies? favor a class
biz
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poverty see slums
/a: gap-redistribute
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emerg rm.
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justice
st paul. legal aid vs wc
access,
aaa, rent a judge,- if all can’t have speedier justice, then none can.
is this nec.. 2 tiered? vs already polarized at wc level
taxes inheritance tax [wealth vs talent], grad inc. tax. loopholes. mc. wk. poor pay none=dup. cap gains. corp. soak em. vs
blue blood estates give 5 times as much to colleges as the gen pop.
deductions for PRI charity
conclusion
media
/the assumption of inequality! envy, resentment. incessant leveling.
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open = dem and cap and pri [sig] sort them out [via comp] and prevents one from taking over. balances them? you get into trouble when you see em as 2 or when you elevate or dump one one of the basic three.
polarize or favor ll/tenant, mng/labor, rich/poor,
don’t know what to do with
access to ed, legal, pol influence
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wkmn’s comp more for blus? / anti trust
When one ethnic group resists another ethnic group’s moving in, part of it may be ethnic prejudice, but part can is a matter of class. or class prejudice which is justifiable — needs explaining.
This must exist at all levels. needs work.
, but they and the middle and upper class, still better.
The working class Archie Bunkers do hold up their end in … but they have limited goals and abilities.
Whatever group gain more economic [& pol?] power can prevail They are skip this whole pt
When the working class moves into a neighborhood, the middle class often moves out. st paul
lower, working, middle, and upper classes
/only l/2 of u class are poor. this contradicts ban
/no parent wants to raise kids in tuff neigh
what % of the poor are lc going to have to skip u-class
talent = the forbidden subject – it’s the hidden nasty secret of each of us as none are perfect. talent: iq, creativity, art,







