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Alternatives to college
/Enstitute = 0 a two-year program that focuses on real skills and apprenticeships with tech companies and non-profits. It’s already difficult to gain admission given the flood of applications.
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/ Learning Counts: Receiving Credit for Job Experience dup
/ http://www.coloradotech.edu/ sig. fast track you get credit for what you know. Even ma’s and phd’s wow tv /
`/Adults Are Flocking to College That Paved Way for Flexibility By TAMAR LEWIN There are almost as many routes to a degree as there are students at Thomas Edison, which has offered adults higher-education alternatives since 1972.
Online? Vocational, trade
Alternatives shortcuts
Praxis, and it is accepting its first batch of students for this fall. The program is ten months, and, according to the website, can be treated as a college substitute, a pre-college program, or a post-college program. @@@@ http://discoverpraxis.com/
`/Since writing the article in ‘88 I’ve run across the amazing idea of alternatives to college
https://www.google.com/#q=alternatives+to+college
http://profoundlydisconnected.com/foundation/ info@mikeroweworks.com = mike rowe closed for appl…..
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/does this exists for trade schools?
/competency-based education…. Advances students on what they know, not how many course they’ve taken. Sig https://www.bing.com/search?q=competency-based+eucation&FORM=HDRSC1 is a link, not a site
/www.educationconnection.com I filled out the form for fun with diff tel no. did it again. It just ref me to several. 0 like above. And liberty calls me right away
Open courseware, nontraditional
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9/l3/04
What your college pres… didn’t tell you
beaufort, S.C. — Much has been made in recent years of the unwillingness among college and university presidents to venture above the parapet and challenge some of the shibboleths of higher education. By this I do not mean advocacy of political positions. Presidents who would keep their campuses places where ideas are in fact freely exchanged ought to avoid signing public letters or endorsing candidates, tempting as it may be.
No, I mean something else. I retired in June as president of Middlebury College in Vermont, but during my 13-year tenure I was as guilty as any of my colleagues of failing to take bold positions on public matters that merit serious debate. Now, a less vulnerable member of the faculty once more, I dare to unburden myself of a few observations. As the new school year begins, there are many things I suspect university presidents would like to say to their various constituencies but dare not.
To faculties and governing boards: tenure is a great solution to the problems of the 1940’s, when the faculty was mostly male and academic freedom was at genuine risk. Why must institutions make a judgment that has lifetime consequences after a mere six or seven years? Publication may take longer in some fields than in others, and familial obligations frequently interrupt careers. Why not a system of contracts of varying length, including lifetime for the most valuable colleagues, that acknowledges the realities of academic life in the 21st century?
Moreover, when most tenure documents were originally adopted, faculty members had little protection. Today, almost every negative tenure decision is appealed. Appeals not upheld internally are taken to court. Few if any of these appeals have as their basis a denial of academic freedom.
To current and prospective parents (and editors of magazines that profit by the American public’s fascination with rankings): student/faculty ratio is overrated as a measure of quality. Can any faculty member persuasively argue that a class of eight or nine students is qualitatively superior to a class of 10 or 11? How many classes at any institution, large or small, are the actual size of the celebrated ratio? (Answer: very few.)
More meaningful statistics, for those seeking to measure quality of education in terms of faculty accessibility, are average class size, average instructional load, percentage of faculty members who are full-time, and how frequently professors hold office hours or take their meals in student dining halls. And not all subjects are best learned around a seminar table. The large lecture, well designed and delivered, can, in fact, be a superior way to learn certain subjects.
To lawmakers: the 21-year-old drinking age is bad social policy and terrible law. It is astonishing that college students have thus far acquiesced in so egregious an abridgment of the age of majority. Unfortunately, this acquiescence has taken the form of binge drinking. Campuses have become, depending on the enthusiasm of local law enforcement, either arms of the law or havens from the law.
Neither state is desirable. State legislators, many of whom will admit the law is bad, are held hostage by the denial of federal highway funds if they reduce the drinking age. Our latter-day prohibitionists have driven drinking behind closed doors and underground. This is the hard lesson of prohibition that each generation must relearn. No college president will say that drinking has become less of a problem in the years since the age was raised. Would we expect a student who has been denied access to oil paint to graduate with an ability to paint a portrait in oil? Colleges should be given the chance to educate students, who in all other respects are adults, in the appropriate use of alcohol, within campus boundaries and out in the open.
And please – hold your fire about drunken driving. I am a charter member of Presidents Against Drunk Driving. This has nothing to do with drunken driving. If it did, we’d raise the driving age to 21. That would surely solve the problem.
I hope the public, and the higher education community, will be willing to engage these issues seriously and respectfully. My head is now well above the parapet. Gaudeamus igitur!
John M. McCardell Jr. is college professor and president emeritus of Middlebury College.
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The Legacy of Legacies By JEROME KARABEL President Bush’s denunciation of legacy preference in college admissions, a system he benefited from, may have set in motion the demise of this anachronistic policy.
The smog of academic consensus
A ‘conservative studies’ professor is exactly what calcified universities need.
By Crispin Sartwell la times
May 29, 2008
That the University of Colorado is raising $9 million to endow a professor of conservative studies is rather delicious in its ironies. It smacks of affirmative action and casts conservatism in the syntax of departments decried by conservatives for decades: /women’s studies, gay studies, African American studies, Chicano studies and so on.
Furthermore, the idea of affirmative action for conservatives seems gratuitous. These other groups may be oppressed, but conservatives run whole wars, black site prisons, sprawling multinational corporations. In fact, if these other groups are oppressed, it’s conservatives who are the oppressors, which may render faculty meetings a bit tense.
But as an academic who is neither a liberal nor a conservative (anarchism has its privileges), let me tell you why I think a “professor of conservative thought and policy” in Colorado, or anywhere else, is not such a bad idea. Within the academy, /conservatives really are an oppressed minority. At the University of Colorado, for instance, one professor found that, /of 800 or so on the faculty, only 32 are registered Republicans. This strikes me as high, and I assume they all teach business or phys ed.
I teach political philosophy. And like most professors I know, I bend over backward to sympathetically teach texts I hate; ????? I try to show my students why people have found Plato and Karl Marx — both of whom I regard as totalitarians — compelling. But when I get to the end of “The Communist Manifesto,” I’m usually asking things like this: “Marx says that all means of communication should be centralized in the hands of the state. Anyone see any problems with that?”
I don’t deceive myself into thinking that I teach these texts as well as, or in the same way as, a professor who found them plausible. And that’s fine. What I’m trying to point out is that even as I try to be neutral (well, even if I did try to be neutral), my personal opinions affect every aspect of what I do, and I think that is generally true.
But it can be horrendously true in academia, where everything is affected by the real opinions of real professors, from the configuration of departments to the courses on offer to the texts taught. And because there’s a consensus, there is precious little self-examination; a slant that we all share becomes invisible.
Academic consensus is a particularly irritating variety of groupthink. First of all, the fact that everyone agrees and everyone has a doctorate leads to the occasionally explicit idea that all intelligent people think the same thing — that no one could disagree with, say, Obama-ism, without being an idiot. This attitude is continually expressed, for example, in attacks on presidents Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, not for their political positions but for their grades and IQs.
That the American professoriate is /near-unanimous for Barack Obama is a problem on many levels, but certainly pedagogically. Ideological uniformity does a disservice to students and makes a mockery of the pious commitment of these professors simply to convey knowledge. Also, the claims of the professoriate to intellectual independence and academic freedom, supposedly nurtured by tenure, are thrown into question by the unanimity. Professors are as /herd-like in their opinions as other groups that demographers like to identify — “working-class white men,” for example. Indeed, surely more so.
That’s partly just a result of the charming human tendency to nod along with whomever is sitting next to you. But it’s also the predictable result of the fact that a professor has been educated, often for a decade or more, by the very institutions that harbor this unanimity. Every new generation of professors has been steeped in an atmosphere in which the authorities all agree and in which they /associate agreement with intelligence — and with degrees, jobs, tenure and so on. If you’ve been taught that conservatives are evil idiots, then conservatism itself justifies a decision not to hire or tenure one. Every new leftist minted by graduate programs is an act of self-praise, a confirmation of the intelligence of the professors.
That this smog of consensus is /incompatible with the supposedly high-minded educational mission of colleges and universities is obvious. Yet higher education is at least as dedicated to the reproduction of Obama-ism as it is to conveying information. But academics are massively self-deceived about this, which makes it all the more disgusting and effective.
So as my liberal old professor Richard Rorty said, referring to Allan Bloom, conservative Platonist: “Let a thousand Blooms flower.” And if they take root in endowed chairs of conservative thought and policy, that’s at least pretty funny.
[what was he saying]
Crispin Sartwell, author of “Against the State: An Introduction to Anarchist Political Theory,” teaches philosophy at Dickinson College.
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The college scam by john stossel 2/8/09 r
A college diploma is supposed to be the ticket to the good life. Colleges and politicians ??? tell students, “Your life will be much better if you go to college. On average during your lifetime you will earn a million dollars more if you get a bachelor’s degree.” Barack Obama, stumping on the campaign trail, said, “We expect all our children not only to graduate high school, but to graduate college.” 000
Rachele Percel heard the promises. She borrowed big to pay about $24,000 a year to attend Rivier College in New Hampshire. She got a degree in human development. “I was told just to take out the loans and get the degree because when you graduate you’re going to be able to get that good job and pay them off no problem,” she told me for last week’s “20/20.”
But for three years she failed to find a decent job. Now she holds a low-level desk job doing work she says she could have done straight out of high school. And she’s still $85,000 in debt. This month she had to move out of her apartment because she couldn’t pay the rent.
The promise about college? “I definitely feel like it was a scam,” says Rachele.
Her college wrote us that that many of its graduates have launched successful careers. But Rachele’s problem isn’t uncommon. A recent survey asked thousands of students: Would you go to your college again? About 40 percent said no.
“The bachelor’s degree? It’s America’s most overrated product,” says education consultant and career counselor Dr. Marty Nemko.
Nemko is one of many who are critical of that often-cited million-dollar bonus. “There could be no more misleading statistic,” he says. It includes billionaire super-earners who skew the average. More importantly, the statistic misleads because many successful college kids would have been successful whether they went to college or not.
“You could take the pool of college-bound students and lock them in a closet for four years — and they’re going to earn more money,” Nemko says.
Those are the kids who already tend to be more intelligent, harder-working and more persistent.
But universities still throw around that million-dollar number. Arizona State recently used it to justify a tuition hike.
Charles Murray’s recent book, “Real Education“, argues that many students just aren’t able to handle college work. Graduation statistics seem to bear him out.
“If you’re in the bottom 40 percent of your high school class,” Nemko says, “you have a very small chance of graduating, even if you are given eight and a half years.”
Colleges still actively recruit those kids, and eight years later, many of those students find themselves with no degree and lots of debt. They think of themselves as failures.
“And the immoral thing about it is that the colleges do not disclose that!”
For many kids, career counselors told us, it’s often smarter to acquire specific marketable skills at a community college or technical school, or to work as an apprentice for some business. That makes you more employable.
Vocational education pays off for many. Electricians today make on average $48,000 a year. Plumbers make $47,000. That’s more than the average American earns. But some people look down on vocational school. A degree from a four-year college is considered first class. A vocational-school degree ? is not.
“More people need to realize that you don’t have to get a four-year degree to be successful,” says Steven Eilers, who went through an automotive program and then continued his education by getting a paying job as an apprentice in a car-repair center. He’s making good money, and he has zero student-loan debt.
Eilers story is no fluke. In the past year, while hundreds of thousands of white-collar jobs vanished, the auto-repair industry added jobs.
Self-serving college presidents and politicians ??? should drop the scam. Higher enrollments and government loan programs may be good for them, but they are making lots of our kids miserable and poor. For many, the good life can be lived without college.
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Same for m.a. glad I didn’t get one
/2 articles, might be just the way I feel:
Look for a career, not a job By Sandy Banks UCLA grads have diplomas from a respected school, but they’re also carrying in their heads a long list of things they can’t do and jobs they can’t get. Photos
Is a college degree still worth it?
/ The R.O.T.C. Myth By DIANE H. MAZUR Elite colleges haven’t forced out the military — it left.
/ Learning in Dorm, Because Class Is on the Web By TRIP GABRIEL Online education is finding its way into more colleges, many of them public institutions facing tight budgets.
/Live vs. Distance Learning: Measuring the Differences
/A Quest to Explain What Grades Really Mean By TAMAR LEWIN
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is planning to add extra information – probably median grades, and perhaps more – to transcripts, among other measures.
/ Does College Make You Smarter?
Students make little progress in intellectual growth in the first two years of college. Why is that?
● College Condemns Classroom Sex Show A3
Northwestern University reversed course and condemned a live demonstration of sex in a classroom, after defending the act earlier in the week.
Unpaid Interns, Complicit Colleges By ROSS PERLIN The uncritical internship fever on college campuses is symptomatic of a broader malaise: Universities are often blind to the realities of work in contemporary America. Sig
/India Graduates Millions, Few Are Fit to HireA1
India projects an image of a nation churning out students who are well educated, a looming threat to the middle-class workers of the West. But in reality, companies are having increasing difficulty finding employees.
o Video: Indian Engineering Grads Unprepared for Work
o Wipro Program Takes on Education Woes
o Doubts Gather Over Rising Giant’s Course
/ More Pupils Are Learning Online, Fueling Debate on Quality
By TRIP GABRIEL Though proponents of online education say the course offerings are rich, skeptics say corners are being cut in an effort to save money.
Op-Ed Contributor
/Major Delusions By TALI SHAROT Why are college grads irrationally optimistic about the future?
/Arum and Roksa: Your So-Called Education Your So-Called Education By RICHARD ARUM and JOSIPA ROKSA New research questions how much you really learn in college.
/ College, too easy for its own good By Richard Arum and Josipa Roksa Colleges have abandoned responsibility for shaping students’ academic development and instead have come to embrace a service model that caters to satisfying students’ expressed desires.
/when I was young, one grad sued for lack of wisdom
/crisis of competence: the corrupting effect of political activism in the u of ca. –
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/ The Campus Tsunami By DAVID BROOKS What happened to the newspaper and magazine business is about to happen to higher education: a rescrambling around the Web and online learning.
/ Got a Computer? Get a Degree. Harvard and M.I.T. are going to offer free courses online, but not for credit. Why not?
/Retired Military Officers Teaching at Ivy League Schools Campuses that once turned a cold shoulder to the military are now inviting former top officers to come and teach.
/ A Generation Hobbled by the Soaring Cost of College By ANDREW MARTIN and ANDREW W. LEHREN Nearly everyone pursuing a bachelor’s degree is borrowing money, and as prices soar, a college degree often comes with an unprecedented financial burden.
Easing the Pain of Student Loans What can be done to control the level of college debt in the U.S. and protect young people from taking on an onerous financial burden
/Come the Revolution By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Through ventures like Coursera, world-class learning is coming at bargain-basement prices https://www.coursera.org/ – sig
/The Class of 2012 Until more is done to strengthen the economy and job market, a college diploma is no guarantee of upward mobility. 6/l2
Fixing College By JEFF SELINGO Colleges and universities must mitigate a decade’s worth of unsustainable growth by looking for ways to lower costs, embrace technology and improve education.
/ College of Future Could Be Come One, Come All By TAMAR LEWIN Colleges are building global student bodies and trying to create models for massive open online courses, or MOOCs. Ll/l2 nyt
/ The Professors’ Big Stage By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN The MOOCs revolution will go through many growing pains, but it is here and it is real.
/ A Dangerous ‘New Normal’ in College Debt By CHARLES M. BLOW Many students can’t earn their way out of this trap.
/ How to Shop for College The government’s new online scorecard can help families cut through some of the cost confusion.
/ California Bill Seeks Campus Credit for Online Study By TAMAR LEWIN Legislation in California would require universities to honor faculty-approved online courses taken by those unable to register for classes on campus.
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/ Better Colleges Failing to Lure Talented Poor By DAVID LEONHARDT Most low-income students who have top test scores and grades do not even apply to the nation’s best colleges, which contributes to widening economic inequality, economists say. |
/ Opinion: Suzy Lee Weiss: To (All) the Colleges That Rejected Me
/11 Public Universities with the Worst Graduation
/ Affirmative Reaction By BILL KELLER Five reasons to rethink diversity in higher education.
/ In Student Housing, Luxuries Overshadow Studying By JOHN ELIGON As developers try to outdo the amenities that their competitors offer in college towns, concern is growing about the academic and social consequences of upscale off-campus student housing.
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Is There A Viable Alternative To College?
JULY 18, 2013 by JEFFREY A. TUCKER terrible one by fee, but listed:
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/ Elite Colleges Differ on How They Aid Poor By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA As colleges profess a growing commitment to recruiting poor students, a comparison of low-income enrollment shows wide disparities among the most competitive private institutions. ——————– |
Colleges Set to Offer Exit Tests
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/ College-educated workers are taking jobs that don’t require degrees
By Alana Semuels
Story | September 20, 2013 | 5:00 AM
… offer lower wages. The earnings of college grads have fallen about 13% in the last … entry-level jobs by overqualified college graduates who can’t find other work. “It puts college grads in a condition that’s unique …
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/ Lists That Rank Colleges’ Value Are on the Rise By ARIEL KAMINER Purists might regard it as an insult to the intellectual, social and civic value of education, but dollars-and-cents tabulations are the fastest growing sector of the college rankings industry. |
/stupid and ty: As Interest Fades in the Humanities, Colleges Worry
By TAMAR LEWIN With the growing money and attention devoted to science and technology, university administrators are concerned that the humanities are being eclipsed. L0/l3
/ College recruiters give low-income public campuses fewer visits
By Larry Gordon
Story | December 27, 2013 | 5:02 PM
… s Center for Research on Higher Education Outcomes. “Having visits … to the vast landscape of higher education opportunities,” he said … meeting, he added Babson College in Massachusetts to his list … random strangers.” larry.gordon@latimes.com
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Degrees of Value: Making College Pay Off
/ Making College Pay By THE EDITORIAL BOARD Employment prospects for college-educated workers have eroded, so a degree doesn’t necessarily mean a good-paying job anymore.
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What You Don’t Know About Financial Aid (but Should) * Need is the most important word. And the most misunderstood.
/ http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21600131-too-many-degrees-are-waste-money-return-higher-education-would-be-much-better thus http://www.economist.com/node/21600212 csf’s roi – ll%
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https://www.google.com/#q=colleges+ranking
/ Getting Into the Ivies By DAVID LEONHARDT Why is it harder than it used to be? Colleges are globalized.
/ In College, Nurturing Matters By CHARLES M. BLOW In terms of future happiness at work, the kind of school experience you had is more important than where you had it.
/ Rape and the College Brand By ROSS DOUTHAT The corporate university doesn’t want to hear about sexual assault.
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Opinion: Bonfire of the Humanities – looks good
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/ Class, Cost and College By FRANK BRUNI A new movie’s troubling questions include whether the best schools encourage social mobility or perpetuate privilege.
/ Colleges Rattled as Obama Seeks Rating System By MICHAEL D. SHEAR College presidents are balking at President Obama’s call for a rating system that would compare schools to aid prospective students and determine federal funding.
/The Working Life: Degree? Check. Enthusiasm? Check. Job? Not So Fast.
/Student Debt Relief to Expand
Americans Think We Have the World’s Best Colleges. We Don’t.
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Free exchange: Wealth by degrees | The Economist 6/l4
www.economist.com/…/21605909-returns-investing-univ… Cached
The returns to investing in a university education vary enormously
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IS A university degree a good investment? Many potential students are asking the question, especially in countries where the price of a degree is rising, as a result of falling government subsidies. Recent research suggests that the conventional wisdom remains true: a university degree pays handsomely. In America and the euro zone, for example, unemployment rates for graduates are far below average. Yet the benefit of university varies greatly among students, making an investment in higher education a risky bet in some circumstances.
The value of a degree, like so much else in economics, boils down to supply and demand. The gap between average pay for university graduates and those with secondary-school degrees is commonly called the “college wage premium”. When firms are hungry for skilled workers their demand for university graduates grows, and the premium tends to rise. When the supply of graduates grows faster than that of less-educated workers, in contrast, the premium will stabilise or fall.
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● Wealth by degrees
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● Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development
Though the demand for graduates varies slightly from country to country, the trend across the rich world is clear. For at least a century firms have sought to hire ever more of the best-educated workers. The college wage premium, however, has bounced around, as the number of graduates has not grown so evenly. In America, the big premium graduates earned in the early 20th century melted away in the post-war years as universities churned out ever more of them. In the 1970s things shifted again. The supply of university graduates had been growing roughly five percentage points faster each year than that of high-school graduates; by the 1990s the gap had shrunk to less than two percentage points. The wage premium duly began to rise again.
The share of people attending university was slower to rise in other rich countries but has caught up rapidly in recent decades. Older American workers are much better educated than their peers elsewhere in the rich world, according to data from the OECD, a club of rich countries. Younger Americans are comparatively undistinguished (see chart). Elena Crivellaro, of the University of Venice, notes that from 1990 to 2005 university enrolment rose by almost 50% in Nordic countries and by more than 30% around the European periphery. In America enrolment growth was about 26%.
So rapid was the change in some European labour markets that they became “saturated” with new graduates, reckons Ms Crivellaro. This saturation has combined with generous minimum wages to keep the college wage premium relatively flat in Europe. Graduate premiums rose in the 2000s in France, Ireland and especially Britain, she calculates, but fell in Germany. In 2011, the OECD says, American graduates earned 77% more a year than those who completed secondary school, compared with 57% in Britain, 47% in France and just 25% in Sweden.
Over the course of a working career these premiums add up impressively. Christopher Avery of Harvard University and Sarah Turner of the University of Virginia estimate that between 1965 and 2008 the discounted present value of a college education in America, net of tuition fees, rose from $213,000 to $590,000 for men, and from $129,000 to $370,000 for women in 2009 dollars. Most of the increase occurred before 2000. A number of studies conclude that most of the past generation’s rise in inequality within the American labour force (that is, among all workers, and not just between the top 1% and the rest) is attributable to the rising premium on a college education.
Yet despite these impressive statistics university may still look a gamble. In many rich countries students are paying more for their education—and borrowing more to do so. Between 1993 and 2012, the share of American graduates taking out student loans rose by 25 percentage points and average debt per borrower doubled, after adjusting for inflation.
That is worrying, in that investment in higher education, though lucrative on average, yields highly variable returns. The pay-off hinges on many factors, beginning with the name of the institution issuing the degree. A recent study by Payscale, which monitors trends in compensation, calculated the expected financial return from graduating from almost 1,500 institutions of higher education. For grand places like Caltech and MIT the 30-year return on a bachelor’s degree is around $2m. But attending institutions near the bottom of the list actually diminishes earnings. Graduates of Valley Forge Christian College can expect to be made $148,000 worse off for their trouble. [flaw here: name vs major]
Graduated risk
The subject of a degree also matters. Jonathan James of Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, found that the college premium in America ranges from 125% for engineering graduates, for whom demand seems endless, to 40% for students of psychology or social work.
And at least some of the college wage premium reflects the rising importance of postgraduate study. The premium earned by biology graduates is relatively small once those with postgraduate degrees (often in medicine) are stripped out. A recent study reckons that the premium earned by postgraduates relative to college graduates was virtually nil in America in 1963 but had risen to roughly 27% by 2010. Much of the increase occurred in the 2000s, when the premium for a bachelor’s degree levelled off whereas that to postgraduate credentials kept rising. Recent figures from Britain show a similar trend.
On the whole, a university education remains a reliable money-spinner. But as with most investments, it pays to be discerning. There is no guaranteed windfall for all who don cap and gown. [not written well] ——-
/ Social Science Palooza IV By DAVID BROOKS Most social science confirms the blindingly obvious. Here are eight examples where it doesn’t.
/ john silber greatly improved boston u.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+silber+boston+university
/ Degrees of Education: Building a Better College Ranking System. Wait, Babson Beats Harvard?NYT Now
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Degrees of Education: The Economic Price of Colleges’ Failures NYT Now
/The Economic Price of Colleges’ FailuresNYT Now
By KEVIN CAREY
Many students do not learn critical-thinking skills in college, and they’re suffering in the job market, a new study finds.
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Schumpeter: Got skills? | The Economist www.economist.com/…/21613279-retooling-vocational-e…
Cached The Economist Loading… Aug 23, 2014 – FOR decades vocational education has suffered from the twin curses of low status and limited innovation. Politicians have equated higher … I must have this on c4
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/ Top 25 Colleges In The US – Yahoo Finance
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/top-25-colleges-us-140400853.html
/ Why Poor Students Struggle By VICKI MADDEN The price of success in college is often their own identities.
/ CNN Films: Ivory Tower With America facing a student debt crisis, is college worth the cost? Sunday at 9 p.m. ET.
/ Most College Students Don’t Earn a Degree in 4 Years, Study Finds By TAMAR LEWIN
A new report says that only 19 percent of students graduated in four years from most public universities and that only 50 of 580 public universities graduated a majority of their full-time students at the four-year mark. [makes me feel better]
/ College for Grown-Ups By MITCHELL L. STEVENS The four-year model of residential campus life is becoming obsolete.
Degrees of Education: The Roots of Obama’s Ambitious College Plan
Football Major, Basketball Minor? By BEN STRAUSS To reform college sports, some educators propose acknowledging reality, and awarding academic credit for playing and a curriculum built around the sport.
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College’s Priceless Value By FRANK BRUNI When it comes to learning, there’s a thin line between luxury and necessity. Columnist Page |
Knowledge Isn’t Power By PAUL KRUGMAN Why education isn’t the answer to inequality.
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Some Private Colleges Turn a Tidy Profit by Going Nonprofit NYT Now
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College for a New Age By JOE NOCERA An author has an education model that is not just cheaper, but also better.
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Starving for Wisdom By NICHOLAS KRISTOF The humanities enrich our souls, and sometimes even our pocketbooks.
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Things They Wish They’d Known About Student Loans
Personal stories about student loans painted a picture of clueless teenagers, frazzled parents and college administrators who may not question students about their debt levels.
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http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21646220-it-depends-what-you-study-not-where
/You Draw It: How Income Affects College Chances Draw your guess for every income level, then compare it with the actual data on college enrollment and the drawings of other readers.
The Value of a Mindless Summer Job By JENNIFER FINNEY BOYLAN
Humble work assignments give students a chance to build their character, if not their résumés. /
Scott Walker’s Effort to Weaken College Tenure By THE EDITORIAL BOARD The governor’s proposal would make top academics think twice before going to work in Wisconsin’s university system.
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A ritual to let freshmen blow off steam left 30 cadets injured, including 24 with concussions and one with a broken leg.
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Is College Tuition Really Too High?
The answer depends on what you mean by college.
Bruni: How to Measure a College’s Value
The College Access Index: A Promise to Critics
Academia’s Rejection of Diversity
By ARTHUR C. BROOKS
Many academics and intellectuals are biased against conservative viewpoints.
/ http://hechingerreport.org/ had great one on csu maritime ll/l5 vs their low grad rates, if relevant
hechinger@tc.columbia.edu I sent c and ed . are they at col……?
By RANDALL KENNEDY
People seem to assume that I should feel deeply alarmed and hurt after an incident on campus. I don’t.
When the College Degree Is Useless and the Debt Is Due By THE EDITORIAL BOARD A court ruling and a proposed federal rule should help to rein in predatory education companies and provide relief to their students. /
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Absurdity reigns in campus sexual assault trials Justin Dillon and Matt Kaiser
There’s an old legal adage that good facts make good law, and bad facts make bad law. In the case of campus sexual assault, it may be that absurd facts will — eventually — make good law too. About five years ago, the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights issued a letter that would change…
How Colleges Can Again Be Levelers of Society
A Confession of Liberal Intolerance By NICHOLAS KRISTOF 5/l6
We’re big on diversity, but not when it comes to conservatives in academia. That’s wrong.
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Veterans Groups Seek a Crackdown on Deceptive Colleges By GARDINER HARRIS The Department of Veterans Affairs received letters calling for improved oversight of colleges that mislead students about the value of their programs while receiving G.I. Bill funds. |
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The entrance to City College at 139th Street and Amsterdam Avenue in Manhattan. Credit Ángel Franco/The New York Times
See how to kill a college see refs to this on cn
Dreams Stall as New York’s Engine of Mobility Sputters
Financial troubles throughout the City University of New York system are representative of a funding crisis that has been building at public universities across the country.
By DAVID W. CHEN
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The One Question Most Americans Get Wrong About College Graduates
An Expensive Law Degree, and No Place to Use It
By NOAM SCHEIBER 5:00 AM ET
Thousands of debt-ridden law school graduates highlight a once unthinkable question: should their law schools close? 6 Comments
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How Cuts Are Pushing College Students Out of State
Declines in state support have led many students to attend public universities in other states, where they pay higher, out-of-state tuition. By NICK STRAYER
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Why Did We Stop Teaching Political History? By FREDRIK LOGEVALL and KENNETH OSGOOD
The topic is everywhere in the news, but it has disappeared from college campuses.
/ Georgetown University, Learning From Its Sins By DAVID J. COLLINS
As a historian and a priest, I’m convinced our school must reckon with its historical relationship with slavery.
Why College Rankings Are a Joke By FRANK BRUNI Lists like U.S. News & World Report’s are too blunt and too blind to certain gems.
SUNY’s Wise Move on Admissions By THE EDITORIAL BOARD Doing away with the stigmatizing application question for disciplinary infractions will bring more students into higher education.
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Cost of College: An Online Education Breakthrough? A Master’s Degree for a Mere $7,000
How to Make Sense of College Rankings By FRANK BRUNI
As systems for rating colleges multiply like mad, here’s a guide for consulting – and ignoring – them.
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How Liberal Colleges Breed Conservative Firebrands By MARIN COGAN
Life on the defensive can curdle into reactionary politics.
Berkeley Cancels Ann Coulter Speech Over Safety Fears By THOMAS FULLER The university, which has a legacy and reputation as a promoter and bastion of free speech, said it was “unable to find a safe and suitable venue” for the speech by the conservative author. 4/l7
/ Life and Combat for Republicans at Berkeley By THOMAS FULLER Five Berkeley Republicans describe what it’s like to be conservative in a bastion of American liberalism.
/ The Conservative Force Behind Speeches Roiling College Campuses By STEPHANIE SAUL
The Young America’s Foundation, a well-funded group based in Washington, is on a mission to “restore sanity” at schools by deploying provocative speakers.
/ College Punishes 67 for Disrupting Charles Murray Talk
By STEPHANIE SAUL
Students at the Vermont college shut down a speech by the political scientist in an episode that came to symbolize a lack of tolerance for conservative ideas on some campuses. [middlebury]
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By THOMAS FULLER Students looking to faculty members and the administration for guidance on how to interpret the free speech issue are seeing deep divisions among their leaders.
What Milo Yiannopoulos’s ‘Free Speech’ Stunt Cost By AARON HANLON
Despite budget cuts, Berkeley has already spent almost $1.5 million on security this year.
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/ How to Level the College Playing Field By HAROLD O. LEVY WITH PEG TYRE
I have spent a lifetime in education. Now I am dying. There are a few things I want to get off my chest.
/ Michigan State’s $500 Million for Nassar Victims Dwarfs Other Settlements By MITCH SMITH and ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS Officials agreed to a settlement that is believed to be the largest ever reached in a sex abuse case involving a U.S. university.
College May Not Be Worth It Anymore By ELLEN RUPPEL SHELL
For the poor, higher education may hurt more than it helps.
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The National Collegiate Athletic Association, which governs college sports in America, has a lot to huddle over when it meets today. It has long argued that allowing players to profit from their fame through product endorsements, autograph sales and the like would undermine their education and professionalise college sports. Student athletes should supposedly be content with free college tuition, even though coaches, administrators and institutions make millions off their labour.
But the NCAA is on the back foot. Yesterday the Supreme Court upheld a lower-court ruling that the NCAA’s cap on “education-related benefits” violated antitrust law. That comes after almost 20 states passed laws permitting players to profit from their name, image or likeness (though many are yet to go into effect). Scared that colleges in those states will attract the best players, the NCAA now belatedly wants a national standard. Who would have thought an athletics association would be so anti-competitive? |
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/ Why the U.S. Needs to End Legacy Admissions – The Atlantic
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see for getting a [mail order] degree via some distant ‘c’. c4,
sent sow l2/90. ed and c to sec. bennet 9/88. silber. to martin anderson at hoover and got note. 9/92 /d kearns, wellstop, smith, chella?
/long ago sent something to silber -lib? – more recently sent c.
/lst of all it’s a screening out process as h.s. should? be
chapman logic,.
cmc humanities: greeks, romans,
/ ethics: epistomology, ontological, econ, french, gov, ethics=0, poetry, econ
sac 2 in pysch, soc, span, phil, bio – resented memorizing a great no. of usless terms, world and u.s. hist, health ed,
/ whether lang. was required affected where I planned to continue.
L.B. state in here somewhere – course on cal. pol.
sjs astronomy, lot on germany, burdick, ir, speech,
fed register, st. gov. and later city gov., csc, for… policy of major powers.
csf civil war, eng. hist. geo, eng, hist., the u.n., the bible as lit
/lat am geo which had a lot of pol
NY: police “courses”, city gov
Cal: siposs vs club and his worthless 3 units=joke
papers: phil…, army corps of eng, fosdisk, fbi, chalamange
chapman
cmc swim
sac
sjs
stu gov. frat, model un,
csf
blu bks vs multiple choice, little writing, tons of reading
pol. philosophy hist locke, rouseau, hobbes, montesque, de toqueville, plato, aristotle, socrates, st. thomas aquinas, st. augustine, kant, marcus aurelius, emerson, thereau, wash, jefferson, linc. labor leaders?, jon d, dem, soc, cap, republic,
fallacies of college quadralinear equations – dr. frank baxter
/diagraming/ language
tests sat, gre, ged, college bd, oral vs written
/ blu bk vs multiple …
/cram the night before
peers college grads w poor grammar
/ iq vs intellect?
good and bad writing, best hist by amatears,/
misnomers of college soc “sci”
/ strange majors: ecology; communications
lucky enuff not to go to college, guy on hill wouldn’t have passed my paper
reading [outside] comics, hardy boys, nancy drew, fiction, mysteries, detective, song of roland, dickens, london, lewis and clark, columbus, twain, r & j, neibenlundenleague. best l00 bks, illiad and the odessey
tolstoy, dovstiefky, the great books,
esthetics: must study excotic things to gain greater understanding
/ pro journals
/living elsewhere -jr yr abroad
/ jc’s a joke
/ the number that should NOT have gone to college
/ those than can’t, teach/ lst yr and half of college: requirements
/ mickey mouse ed requirments
/ get that ed credential/
cul shakespere, poetry, opera, symphonies, art, ballet, museums?, lec
tures, the classics here?
results how many college grads had to go back for typing
/ how many drove cabs – for how long results degree didn’t help in s.w., or esl, or pol, or writing???
/ or career?,
/ the no of adult stus who quietly said they knew better than the prof.
goals to pass on the cul
what they don’t tell you
blk hist – tubman, indians, east, jews, biases of fields
hist pol, soc, econ. alex, ceasar, greece, rome, law?, mercantilism, king arthur, indust rev, magna carta, various rev., all the wars?, slavery
hitler, stalin, mao
biblio, rate tv, why taxes, am myths & others, job refs.
nyc= biggest ed for megoing thru the old life mags at sjs and finding out we lauded lenin
/ learned most in independ pursuits: papers,
word list I made – 500?
writing
sports self-defense, swim?, gym? call this gym class? -optional? [
melting pot
fallacies of college quadralinear equations – dr. frank baxter
/diagraming/ language
peers college grads w poor grammar
/ iq vs intellect?
good and bad writing, best hist by amatears,/
misnomers of college soc “sci”
/ strange majors: ecology; communications
could become video pen pals w/another language class or the school could adopt another school like sister cities do
through documentaries and field trips., with seeing the docus scared straight, toma, and with a local map pinpointing how such problems and institutions around around them. possibly field visits to jail, morgue
adults grow out of it bakker, swaggert
Modifications of some traditional values and customs:
s.s. field a wasteland
/ have to take ed courses ‑ waste ‑ common complain esthetics fine arts, classic, etc. like religion – looking for sublime plane
biases media don’t cover 3 continents
/ pol follows econ?/
christian only & cater to jews
/ ellis vs angel is – [need nos.]
/ the west 0 on balkans, east, africa
/ the times
how briggs myer personality test helped me, lucky enuff not to go to college, guy on hill wouldn’t have passed my paperdk how a battle is fought. pol. philosophy hist locke, rouseau, hobbes, montesque, de toqueville, plato, aristotle, socrates, st. thomas aquinas, st. augustine, kant, marcus aurelius, emerson, thereau, wash, jefferson, linc. labor leaders?, jon d, dem, soc, cap, republic,
ing/ language
skills church of light
tests sat, gre, ged, college bd – i’d have to see these to eval their relevancy, oral vs written
/ blu bk vs multiple …
/cram the night before & forget
/ tests never told me what briggs myer did/ nor determine my perception, creativity,
values sex ed, chores, career, smoking!, clean-cg
/ creativity for those
reading [outside] comics, hardy boys, nancy drew, fiction, mysteries, detective, song of roland, dickens, london, lewis and clark, columbus, twain, r & j, neibenlundenleague. best l00 bks, illiad and the odessey
tolstoy, dovstiefky, the great books,
me – no more rock and roll, ny, beck’s class
misc frats, big jerk off/
great cities, l00 men/ l00 books/
screening misleading: the more ed the more $. more ed takes more iq and effort, long range thinking; also lot are not interested in lot of $/
elitism like religion? and like british u.c. spend lot of time being diff? yet == white man’s burden. see esthetics vs rock
cure-all am’s love affair w/ ed.
sooner into the real world the better – antioch
/ parachute bk
/cram the night before
ment
/ ny/ gulag/ biz gave up on h.s.
/tabloids
/ ba – opens doors only/ independ study
/ non pros – but too hard to develop this.
sports were a biz vs intramural sports
/ practicum, consortium, symposium, semesters, quarters
keep changing majors: comm…, soc. ecology.
doubt if biz guys used much
/ re, jay, hap, hutch, smith, keith, scott, donaldson, immel, carter
partying, ski,
/ pub or perish
/ tom peters, iaccoca,
/ ain’t
/ status
/ lit in stilted language?
soc problems map of those in one’s own area. & ny; union corruption,
pysch: adolescence, rebellion, id, hum nature – d. carnegie
back east they asked me which college I went to.
leading young people down the primose path – l/2 of minority stu flunked out. paper chase? never ask how many it didn’t pay off for. why no flics on this
/ the key’s are good books and profs/
/ test would be age related. and would test progress compared to from what one started with, they’d also maintenance -cause we all slip back
/ fam resp, insights gained from advantages, and from adversity – character, integrity. – peer ratings? big 3 which kid you were. this would involve the fam more. male, female. less reason to bitch. summer camps, fam trips. employability
/ Is there anything that comes close to this.
perfect example is after sch sports vs paper route; another is the more sensible ones get sick less.
genius of this: it’s exactly what career counseling pulls out!
maturity: realism [which would appear cyn to academics], insights, awareness, humaness, naturalness, [see immaturity] travel, ham radio, stamps, scouts?, little league, spec int., earning your own tuition, clubs, wk, hum. nature, maturity, trad val, swim, music?, lang? shrinkage-grp., writing, vocab, living diff places, 4-H, resp in looking after siblings, employability, racial, handicapped? church?, natural talent? all this would help keep you on course as you could fall off
/ health= weight, stamina, coord?, smoke, alc,
myths biases – german bashing
j.c. biz, never off mailing list, anything for warm bodies, call anything a class, make it appealing and easy, go thru cataloques. I signed up, went once, and 6 or 8 weeks later got a cert. saying I’d completed the course. they call anything an instructor – siposs
ed is older people misleading younger people.
ea. of us could list many vital lessons we never heard of in sch
/credit for sports skills
screening you but not telling you for fear of being elitist?
poor richards almanac
tests cumulative, periodic, comp
college vs using a small bowl?
/ wordprocessing
Case against college (19 ) in 76 a ba from princton cost $34K 32
tests to involve peer ratings? & rate teachersreality showed me I didn’t want or need an msw
/career counsel needs reality re iq
/ sensible psych/ free for lst time – thus didn’t need hoops – msw
/ ed is more than books
/ no one wants to admit it
/ seems like good idea
/ vs you can wk the rest of your life
/ my major social “science” [political science & history]
hist: becks, civil war, eng hist
pol: city, st, fed, gov., csc; for. pol of the major powers, lat am geo., forms of gov. pol phil & theory -lots & missed fried
my freedom after college – being duty bound
/ trapped by weight
/ last 2 yrs =just to get outphilosophy – potential at that idealistic age, but too theoretical; I don’t think we used any of it.
to look for a husband?almost none could tell you diff twix cap, soc, and comm – assuption?
/ ea prof wants his sub. to bring nirvana?
/ lofty yet pol
/ spring release due to too much studying
/ mislead by adults
/ nothing prepared us for college in THOSE days
/ fried – who pays
/ no debating soc on my campuses
/ the course in viet
/ swim coach said, you get out of college and THEN the games start
/ which college you went to sig to some – why
/ as pecos guy said, your ed just starts then
/ college as way of arbitrarily? selecting an elite?
/ 4-5 yrs of college and no degree = 0some could cram all night, which wasn’t fair – that’s life; and then forget it the next day?
everything a biz, which was like real world: grades, sports-swimming, no cul=shakspere, ballet, music, art, sculpt, theater
/ crusade in eur
/ the atmoshpere
/ ea grad has to ask what was useful?, how many yrs nec if I had to do it over
/ ed at that age – passing time
/ no thot as to what employers want.
/ self-ed , hoffer
/ learn, earn, yearn [what if stus had been told various fiels attract various types] could have done a better job by having us study what employers wanted, resume writing?
j.c. gym classhoops lst l2 yrs, mil, the idealism of college, then tied to fam, mort, career – [yet send their kids to college]
ma’s and phd’s mean less the longer I live.
myths
-lib WAY off. myths
– must study nature, sci, music?, econ?, language, to understand man
– esthetics, bal, lib, rounded, basis, = catch phrases
my ed
exp: ny, slums, non-pros, cs, tradval, travel? & fried
living thru anti-communist, pryamids, viet, watergate, media, mi’s, rm, media= major paper, mag, tv,
writing,
career counseling, briggs-myer, intuition, shrinkage,
mod… of trad vals?
viridiana, antioch, sooner the real world the better- antioch, vs u.c.
/ diffs in college –
still hard to get job?
/ to think and talk diff?
/ union card
/ summers are wasted.
wordprocessing?
some profs were good at posturing, being verbose, abstract, traversing the upper reaches of ephermal theories – so far up in the clouds, they wouldn’t have recognized the real world if it ran em over on the hiway. they postulated from ivory towers oblivious to reality.
– well before the late 60’s – thank God].
Nothing prepared us for it? skip. We had to take a yr and a half of requirements:
this article needs the news approach to s.s. ?????
it last…the classics, the fine arts vs rock n roll?, presumptuous, idealistic, but this is too much to develop.
and tons they didn’t tell us like what?
lot they didn’t tell us
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– make our tastes more refined – in what?
esthetics – meaning what?
great sacrifice, but not much more employable or effective altho this was drummed into us and the outside world.
could accomplish same in 2 yrs? but they don’t in j.c.
pros have image to keep up – misled, but fallible
too many engineers or teachers? at diff points.
my advice on certain fields; avoid gov indeed many send kid to sch in order to mature.
get away from folks
/screen
something about an educated person – more accurate, intellectual, objective, fair?, a frame of ref? opened drs
/ grow out opf religion
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lecture vs tape
/ the trouble is educators, thus you’d hve to find a sch that uses a comprehensive approach to prove it
/ c.s.
/ utopian -dup
/ they WAY phil… was taught it was useless/
– It’s sometimes said about teaching, “Those that can, do; those than cannot, teach.”
Often non-professionals are more effective.] amish
/ boy own bks
/ my ed: getting out of fields.
/ college is learning how to b.s.
/ ed =self ed
/ what can you teach that applies to life? $ mang? health?, dressing?, soc? dance?
/ people in the theater – messed up and this is their big moment
/ those that can, do; philosophers play god
/They aren’t told: of some of the stereotypes:
– Some who become social workers have more problems than those they’re trying to help. and that “disillusioned social worker” is a stereotype.
– Some go into psychology to solve their own problems.
case against college l975 this book starts many good ideas and doesn’t develop them. barefoot drs. learn in 3 mos cram course
/ we overtrain our drs. which is a device to limit their nos. thus lining their pockets. overtrained as fakes get by. l04 shrinks are the medical mystificators par excellence. viscot says a good shrink does no more than a good friend. -dup under pro
// most learned profession are really a little bag of tricks. the ineffectiveness of pro training is nothing a polite adult will admit in pub. lib arts religion of the ruling class. l09 the inability to define, the appeal to personal witness, the indirectness, the aphorisms – these are all the familiar modes of religiouyis discourse. as with rel, no proof is required, only faith. l09 their lang becomes elevaate, metaphoriacal, extravagant, threoretical, and reverent. l08 pursue this.
ll4 – the liberallye ducated re forbidden from… telling stu wht is right and good.. academic overvalue symbols and abstractions. pros know little bout econ of u.s. nor of corps. ll5 power and $ are avoided as dirty biz.
starting at beginning of bk. we are the lst and only nation that aspires to higher ed for all. 5 she found students sad. 9 as they’re not needed l2 our hypocrisy about the young.
/ apart from folks
/ 34k total cost of ba from princeton in 76. on campus “adult” means self-supporting
/ 70: no evidence that the higher income of colelge grads is due to college.
/ grad sch=th classic sol for those who avoid commitment. 8l
/ l971 before the teacher surplus became acute – 88 [those who find out in practice teaching they don’t like it] pros on their lst jobs discover l they learned a lot they’ll never use 2 what they need to know they weren’t taught 97
/ [this book should be required reading for stu]
/ jargonland 99
/ what pros do all day is not taught in sch. barefoot drs. in china learn all in 3 mos. l03. here drs are overtrained to limit their nos and thus increase their income l04
/ shrinks are the great mystifyers. viscot says they do little more than what a good friend can do
/ the ineffectiveness of pro training is nothing a polite adult will admit in pub l05
/ the lib arts religion. what is it? subjects? a process?, a personal transformation? the great tradition of western man [college is a bad as a monestary] [top lib arts stu should be better or more employable than average ones] thicket of verbal foilage
/ lib arts are the religion of the ruling class. the exalted language, the universl setting,k the ultimate val, the inability to define, the appeal to personal witness, the indirectness, the aphorisms [sig] no proof is required, onlyh faith. l09
/ profs are not accountable. and are irresp, like the church. lll as willing as the church to grab the power the faithful thrust upon them. the elevate those who can manip abstract symbols and condemn those who are manual, visual, or artistic. we don’t give the mil power, but we do academia lll the lib ed are forbidden to tell students wht is right and good
/ profs know 0 bout econ of us ll4
/ power and money are dirty ll5
/ degrees are class distinctions
/ a finishing sch
/ [this book has good idea but leave them hanging] we have cruelly deluded the lower mid class into thingking they can gain acces to power by studying.. the gent as leader is an ancient fallacy- ll9. dichotomy between head and hand. assumption college makes you a better person l20
/ grad more lib on soc issues l2l, more apt to blame soc than the criminal l2l
/ during 60’s we coubled the no of stud in college and eveyrhing seemed to get worse. l22 l college doesnt make peolpe iq, amtious, happy, lib or . it’s other way around those pepole go to college. 2 college can’t claim much credit for the learning experiences that change stu. jobs, freinds hist and time have as big an impact. 3 college offered less in early 70’s. – quality dropped due to increase in stu. l23
/ colleges want gifted stu for what they will do for the college l23 during 60’s it became clear plenty wouldn’t go to college even if paid to l24 as korean and viet viets don’t go in greater no’s that wwii vets, tho benefits are better.
perhaps college selects [confirms] rather than creates ability. 126 credentialism: the imposition by employers of ed requirements that are not clearly required for the job. l27. 3 [or 5] yrs of college not sig; it’s the degree. l27 example of empty credentialing is extra $ for teachers w masters
/ jobs are not more complex today l29 nor were ’65 jobs more than jobs in’40 jobs which require some college in u.s. don’t in germany l29 ed level has nothing to do with how well the jobs are done l30 [clerks could have done casework in welfare – same with aaa] when drs, or barbers asre needed, “standards” may come down. when “destructive competition” threatens, st boards are urge to raise “standards”. dental assist to everything dental hygienists do cept clen teeth, but get much lower. nurse assoc have ong favored requiring a b.a., but a demo showed 2 yr nurses can do as well l32 the function of ed has been to teach the por to accept a lesser place. [but she doesn’t prove it!] l32. sch robs people of time! l33 police want a b.a.
/ 83% said under grad ed would be inproved if more atten were paid to “emtotional growth”. l38 “studentry” l39 adolescence did not beockme a stage, a word, or a problem until we began pushing young people into hi sch 50 yrs ago. in the past decade the whoe thing happened all over again at the college level. and thus the campus unrest of the 60’s. moratorium on commitment
/ open dorms l43 college spirit is as suspect as the am. flag l45 extram curricular activities all but disappeared. Yearbooka have been droppped. stu papers down, little
/skip grad cermemonies. don’t know sch songs. maturity involves resp., decisions, l46 campus=youthy ghetto. some think it retards maturity l47
/ I can learn more by reading time every week than I do by going to classes.
/ l47?
/ man stu said college is limbo protecting them from maturing by full participation in adult resp. “adult” on campus mean self-supporting l48
/ many entering frosh expect a personal transformation and are let down. one mo w a s w agency convinced me it wasn’t my cup of tea and that soc was for trhe birds l54. some take a yr off l55 and it helps
/ a yr off before college can help. [i had one before and during and grad bitter? or an academic nigger] outcast] “you ancestors were men and women at l3 or l4 and had tested heir powers well before they were out of their teens. l60. maturity=tolerance for ambiguity l6l 42% dropped out of air force academy in ’74 l62
/ they have t believe college did something for them l69. if college paid off, stu who got good grades would be more successful than those who didn’t l69 college grades bear little or no relationship to any measures of adult accomplishment
/ diff between being smart and being smart in sch l72 but doesn’t define
/ colleges teach old ideas l73 at best the usual academic program is no help to creative people l75; at worst it can damage them. a study showed lots dropped out. adademically they were erratic.
/ academics pride selves on complexity l76 jessica mitford never went to sch. she wrote 3 best sellers. recs:
l h.s. grad have a right to resp
2 profs shuld be stripped of pol, edon, and soc. power over stu. and just teach.
l we might fund: getting away from hm., making friends totally diff, exploring knowledge, trying a field, training, maturing with a formula. l89 3 nat serv 4 5 higher ed should be treated like any other consumer product. and doesn’t spell it out. college should compete – same. 6 decredentialize employment 7 8 9 l0 lower the sch-leaving age to l4. l95 l2 stop making young people carry the burden of social reform. ed doesn’t solve soc problems. busing is less threatening than desegregating housing. college is a loaded academic setting which legitimizes class distinctions [but no expl…] l96. unduly restrictive child labor laws. thus youth get find it easier to get work in foreign countries. unions keep th young out. hi cost of voc training. comm colleges good for trades, specialties 203. more flexible are proprietary trade schools 204 but prob doesn’t say much.
/ antioch plan 205 anyone in the arts does better doing than in class l25 easier to think when you bod is active 223 address of univ w/o walls 242 not such a hot book.
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credit for part or full self-sufficiency and for yrs out of the hse.
/ why have nat. serv. if our taxes are too hi
/ a in sch, c in life.
/ even adversity could contibute to the 5 basic areas.
/ brook farm
/ we couldn’t tell you the ideas of plato, aristotle, or socrates.
/ alway talking how lib arts ed gives you a basis, structure or whatever for critical thinking, sifting?, discerning, or whatever, but never telling you what this is or where and how you got it – & which courses you could have missed. it’s more of the good intentions bit.
/ career counseling and maturity inextricably interwoven and they increase the efficiency tremendously.
/ probabaly the biggest step for me was learning concept of objectivity.Good counseling, a therapy of sorts any connection between maturity and career counseling? many [wisely] dropped out and succeeded. I think they were smart.
self-ed yourself. no one knows or seems to be able to say what “ed” is
/undergrad courses I didn’t cover: stat, accounting, anthro?, chem, phy, elec, sci, lab, agr, animal husbandry?, botany,
grad: arch, dent, med, law, sw,
more soc than intellectual or creative- just hoops to get paper – and impractical hoops which didn’t know the streets – had no use for exp.
/
presumptuous, no ratingsmore soc than intellectual – impractical hoops which didn’t know the streets – had no use for exp.
/ no ratings
/ even the campus is unreal?/
/0 on canada vs tom wolfe’s bit on tv
/ 0 on mex
/ nihilism – we don’t know
lc0 on homos
/ ba = overqualified for swWe can’t tell you about Plato, Aristotle, or Socrates. (Very few are religious and not happier nor more successful than those who are not.)Such counseling is so basic, there is almost no point in educating someone without it.
/ a practical ed = contradiction in terms.m -c makes one superior?obj= the crown virtue, major guidelineobj= the crown virtue, major guidelinefeeling at csuf that campus has been thoroughly thot out and that there is a lot of good thinking there – that’s how it should be. – ivy league: nancy gray on a fall day – how disappointed my folks and I were at some points.
my turn 7/ll/88 her girl looking in paper for career, not job. didn’t know a career is an evolution
/ 25 yrs ago we were told we knew 0, but by grad would have the tools to learn [0] we did – on the job. Now days they tell stu the know all to succeed in career. so biz complain they get grad who dislike anythnig les than hi level. rejection seen as trauma. don’t want to pound the pavement-never heard the expression. dk job hunting. crushed by not having been recruited before grad. grads don’t even know what jobs exist.
why such vast distances to be walked in college – for sake of beautiful campus?
redlands stately old elegant buildings with character. one on hill – vast expanses. a quad. grossman hall, oak lined avenues.
d.j: 50% of col grads don’t go into the field they’ve studied
/ what the hell is training the mind.no love of learning acquired like jews havecarol’s music
/ fall foilagehealth ed
why don’t schs rec, tape, and test docus
/ career counseling=job hunting
/ geraldo rivera vs m. adler
/ did I leave out sports?
/rev of rising expectations – crap of college
//what’s diff twix a teacher and a prof
//bennet said what is ed good for – and colleges resist providing info to answer this
/ our research univs. are the best in the world/ cos want grads w
/gen ed and THEY will teach em the skills. [that ought to tell you something]
/contradition: educators are supposed to be the paragons of academic virtue, clarity, etc. and they are some of the biggest jargonauts
//why a math score for sat’s
/need list of vocab we learned but never used/ buckley – a good example of a bright educated person who won’t relate to the common man
//read sonnets – so what
/ in l6 yrs of sch./
/ learned more from tv bout canada and mex in a few hrs than I ever learned in l6 yrs of sch.
//me at cmc & college generally-out of my league? like a minority.
/great throwing up of the hands
/some col grad didn’t know where new england was/
/oral and written expression
//keeping highly qualified asians out, and letting underqualified blacks and latinos. -88
//humanities – a word you only use in college
//should have learne about sihks, kurds, bylorussians, ukrainians, gypsies, jap… bunch, armenians, aborigines, maoris, basques, belushis? – more sig than geo
/ guy grad from on to top 25 nat colleges on list of us news. said his ed was useless – theory
/smith said mostly the same
//cumulative courses: eng, math? soc.?
/ college vs pro sports – does college have a lock on this for the $?
/i never heard in hist that mercantilism was 0
/lot can’t write a good report, so teach em to write – yet few jobs for writers
/courses on ethnics to make us moral
/smith said he hardly used anything he learned in college
/we grew out of our religion too
/list of course [dumb repetitive names] for the 3 jc’s: allied health. am lang program. aviation tech. bus data processing. bia
/off admin. career ed. const. tech. emerg. med tech. food and nutrician. health ed. hi tech. hm ed. mng & supervision. speech communication. theater arts. tv prod and op. welding tech – others inside [all their centers etc. & bldgs in one catalogue
/in college avoid classes with a lot of asians – they raise the curvel
1/2 of ba’s don’t go into their field
town/gown
/0 on what it takes to be an entreprenur
/0 on slums, pov, minorities,
/the folly of NOT using what’s on tv – shows how they side step everything
/teachers become profs
/charles J. Sykes wrote “ProfScam” professors and the Demise of Higher Ed..” [pub by regenery gateway, wash.] profs flee from under grads to the privileges of usless research. academia is one of society’s most outragious and elaborate frauds. It’s repledte with pieties, arcane rituals, rites of passage and dogmas of a secular faith. it has an intimidating and mysteriouys argot [=j] and tons of perks. Stu get watered-down courses, unqualified instructors, a degree of dubiouys value at great cost for spending 4 yrs in a [ivory tower]. academic leaders agree he’s tapping a well of anger, aggrivated by price. academia bible is
The Chronicle of Higher Ed. l/2 the letters to a paper thanked him. he said decline since ’75. bait and switch: come to our school for pretige [only it’s earned thru what research gets pubed. he hate tenure. it’s supposed to ensure intellect.. freedom but does the opposite as young teachers must produce research that confirm to the orthodoxy and flatter the older profs. this in view 3/7/89 by larry gordon – times ed writer
/charles J. Sykes, 8327 No. regent rd, milwaukee, wi 53217, wrote “ProfScam” professors and the Demise of Higher Ed..” [pub by regenery gateway, wash.] profs flee from under grads to the privileges of usless research. academia is one of society’s most outragious and elaborate frauds. It’s repledte with pieties, arcane rituals, rites of passage and dogmas of a secular faith. it has an intimidating and mysteriouys argot [=j] and tons of perks. Stu get watered-down courses, unqualified instructors, a degree of dubiouys value at great cost for spending 4 yrs in a [ivory tower]. academic leaders agree he’s tapping a well of anger, aggrivated by price. academia bible is
The Chronicle of Higher Ed. l/2 the letters to a paper thanked him. he said decline since ’75. bait and switch: come to our school for pretige [only it’s earned thru what research gets pubed. he hate tenure. it’s supposed to ensure intellect.. freedom but does the opposite as young teachers must produce research that confirm to the orthodoxy and flatter the older profs. this in view 3/7/89 by larry gordon – times ed writer
/w.c. got on w/o college/
We all know people who got into the wrong field. Career counseling reduces this by making a student work on discovering and pursuing his primary interests. It’s basic.pontificate
/can see the val of formal? ed in trying to talk to gene and others around here – cept tim sure thru me. never guess he went to college
/whole thing bout ed is the REAL world
/speed reading
/after talking with jim bastian; language useless for most grads. think of those you know. bio should have been tied to health -whatever that is. -make it physical health, then mental. =what psych should have taught. also normal psych?
/ jim said college teaches no employable skills. crap about well rounded ed. stigma of not finishing. good parts dealth with the real world. speech and debating. use bradbary as title. credit for exp.
/physical health lst then mental, but trad needed
/amazing: can’t even tell you what health is
/ not graduating must be unfair cause it’s grad.. in bs – my dip vs steve jacobs – why didn’t his mean more
/what ed does is separate
/obvious the solution to the problem of ed doesn’t lie with educators
/Lucky Enough not to go to College
This was what noted writer Rad Bradbury claims. What a statement. And after reviewing my college exp. I’d say he’s more perceptive than he knows. Half or more of college is useless. I wonder why parents who went, don’t try harder to prevent their young people from enduring that half.
I’ve looked at what college did for me and my friends. We
send to bradbury
/where is religion here – under phil?
/rewarded those who could cram [and forget]
/should teach how to read the media
/in health ed at jc, taught us but didn’t test us -can’t tell you what health is.
/pysch should have covered adolecence, skinhead, cults, hippies, radicals, pol, zealots, parenting, love, church.
/use lot of words in college and nowhere else. humanities
/dotehevsky, classic comics, classics, tchycoffsky, mozart,
/fine arts: music, painting, sculptor, ballet, opera, – ed offers the am dream, but promotes rigidity. thus harder to change course at 40 – sig. people take their iq and their schooling as judgements of their ability -sig.
Iq and sat scores have become destiny for many ams.
– The more conservative often go into business; the more liberal into the media and social service. The last has a way of attracting people with problems.
– Few of us retained religion and those that did don’t seem to be better off to any significant degree.
– A great many people seem to outgrow their religion as adults.
/ will durant. 0 on class. scarlet letter, melville, poe, emerson, longfellow. emily dickenson, dickens, hobbes, rouseau, tolstoy, zhivago. dominques hills started in 74.
/point out what they missed: zhivago but too early for that one.p.e. – only a break from studying poetry – waste [Diet, exercise, smoking, alcohol, drugs, etc.] We don’t understand nor like Shakespeare.
/my pub ed vs the pri ed of buds $$$$$$$$
/mostly who can cram and get grades, not an ed. what is eddump to coop stu up all yr? – thus panty raids in spring
/didn’t even know they still had indian schs, amish, hyland hm
/okies, cajuns, etc
/% of col grads ending up like tim butler, or jim bastian. no one asks
/jurisprudence
/oliver wendel holmes. judge learned hand. judge marshal. tolstoy.
/the classics and the humanities – most grads can’t tell you what they are or what an ed is, or health
/career counseling – basic for the barest consideration of making one’s ed efficient – but and efficient ed is a foreign concept.
/which had more influence – the classics or religion
/object not to win battle but to despirit the enemy
/how many times do you hear more ed or less ed say I don’t know
/lib ed lends credence to liberalism
/ed doesn’t know or care that biz is ed staffno correlation twix ed and success in [$] – sig stolper
/at uci today for asian wk. saw a few beats – why ed them? at everyone’s expense.- stupid
/too much emphasis on being an extrovert and being social – vs being creative, tech, sci, etc. univs are the cidatels of status
/stupid curve
/ never knew if guessing wrongs took away from rights.ed, c – comprehensive exams
/ never knew if penalized for guessing
/ cajuns, menonites,
/aide on cap hill said you can’t learn it in bks -tv
/rickover
/thot I’d have to buy a tux at cmc – rented one?whereas college is nothing but experimentation. xxxxx as they can’t define ed.humanities, lib, the classics vs non-western xxxx intellectual trips = salvation by faith. college is games: blk is wht or is it? – 4 yrs on this. should have orals for vocalb, obj, logic, and knowledge last? eclectiness. temple univ more wk oriented, but now going for humanities.
/do colleges belong in the biz of sports
/can assume poly sci makes em good citizens. they hated it. I loved it and didn’t make me a better citizen – they don’t know bill of rights
/why educate grubby bohemians at uci – removed, priviledged, impractical-where you send your kid to grow up and waste part of his precious youth. you could spot the blu outsiders in demo and for const. pub trough? too much rah rah
/never even thot of a quit smoking clinic in ed or c
/computer types that do all they can to confuse it
/just like a lot can’t give directions
/don’t forget the one I audited
/ed should START with the most influential men [and events] in hist: lao tse, the religious leaders:
alex the great, napoleon, ceasar, martin luther, aristotle, galileo, davinchi, churchill?, hitler, columbus, edison?, marco polo, gandhi, vasco de gama, pasteur, einstein, copernicus, kepler, pasteur, lincoln, guttenberg, gunpowder?, ptoelmy, shakespear?, pathagorus, great books, goddard?, meiji?, peter the great, katherine the great?
/dk – great throwing up of the hands
/what you learn, you forget, what you do, you remember: thus you remember the games it took to get thru college, not the lessons.
/trancendantalism, methaphysics, existentialism, emperical, epistomoloy, ontological, eclesiastical vs secular. temporal vs spiritual. some expert on the psalms.
/what do pri colleges think of pub
/why so many foreigners want to be ed in us?
/c – obsure, pedantic – sure glad I’m not in that world
/voltaire, stalin, lenin, decart, marx
/rev of rising expectations
/why no lessons via computer
/my complaint w/ ed is mised and over ed
/career counseling – some of the best ther you can have
/pub college benefit all l72? they benfit mid and u c l72 who
should pay for them l73
credentials churning +
good intentions, guilt, religion?, articulate, complex, great throwing up of the hands,
good intentions ed, causes?, so africa?, incredibly inefficient charity? – spec at xmas.
untouchables religion, iq, class, ethnics,
/wonder if computer wouldn’t have been a great learning tool in college; it seems to be so now [when independ..] as my work in cumulative, creative, etc.
/pri – their ed was twice as exp, but not twice as good
/screening process
/trad val, mental health, phy health, career, academicthen courses related to real world and wk exp
/probably little mention of how many students coast thru college
/college makes you take yourself too seriously ???????
/c supposed to be a leveler. opposite
/why didn’t hist class have us see victory at sea or crusade in eur
or read it. how dumb do you get
/should give a course on what’s wrong with college and how to minimize it
-academia 47% lib and 24% cons same goble
-sociologists of whom 80% are liberal and 5% conservative [p l24 f. goble Beyond Failure
academics are collectivists
/ sig – reason
/us news saying 6/89 jap grad from hs = to our starting jr is col
/the absolute good, the categorial imperative, the ultimate …. great throwing up of the hands,
you study [and elevate] what fields are – not what they are not.
academia is self-perpetuating, like any field.
/why didn’t hist class have us see victory at sea or crusade in eur
or read it. how dumb do you get
/finish college and are in select grp – they don’t tell you some drive cabs
/should give a course on what’s wrong with college and how to minimize it
/teach you lot useless and miss a lot that is essential
/ed = ed = good intentions
/the ultimate good. utilitarianism, occam’s razor, jeramy bentham. st. augustine. perfect chairness. plato’s cave.
/stu are idealistic because they study ideals.
/why does a coach need a college ed
/ucla is top money raiser
/occ: asso.. stu budy, biz ed, consumer and health sci, couseling and guid.. health and phyusical ed. lit and lang..s, math and sci s. tech, learning center, telecouses info, ticket off, vet affairs, voc ed. couseling and admissions bl, spec sevices cent. #
/I can’t remember having any black classmates in college: hatch, no mexicans or very few, how many asians? or jews or other at cmc, sac, sjs, or cal st. funny, you never think of it?
/in college why didn’t we ever study the best ARTICLES written or current events!!!! why not a bk of the best articles ….
/perfect example of how removed they are: they don’t study current events -in papers and mags and the news. – what more relevant way to teach: hist, geo, ethics, the media, pol, cul diffs, class, add to this
/ those plastic outlines of subjects in college bookstores
/ feel like burning your texts, but they should be bibles [as my hist one was] what would be ideal texts. nat geo? and others could probably be tapped re sorrow they feel for ed It and p.e. should have tested and developed our health. It should have tested and developed our maturity. Students maintaining good health wouldn’t need as much p.e.and speed reading.(4) Health (Diet, exercise, smoking, alcohol, drugs, etc.)
/incredible in sch they didn’t test our stamina, heartbeat, etc
/ 5 yrs of college but no degree
/cosby’s mind would drift in college – mine would and i was condemmed
/rickover’s ideas
/why didn’t c have us watch the advocates
/never studied the + of cap in hist or pol sci or other?
/gov aid helps boost cost of college, ironically. academic standards have fallen in the 80s – fee
/what makes a classic – flic, play, book, picture, sculptor, piece of music, etc. rodin
/could have learned the library?
/I might advise a stu to grease [= ?] college
/why not go to summer sch
/ba supposed to get you more $ now than in past?
/the more cynical? stus in college were more realistic
/kant’s critique of pure reason
/ed. what’d I’ve learned from tv: media and others
/humanities, classics, jurisprudence, latin,
/never in pol sci or hist given the sig of econ, cap,
/only rare and vaque refs to ability in college
/course on vw at santa barbara jumped from 40 to hundres & waiting list shows what ed CAN be.
/racial problems on campus probably result of idealism, oeo
/for which majors or fields is sch, college the most practical, helpful
/libs tell of those who got break of getting to go to college and succeeded, not those [minorities and others ] who were mislead by college or those who did better w/o it. did anyone care what went wrong with me?
/how good is ed if the more you get, the more lib you get
/hist left out religion?
/one college granted a degree in peace
/diff twix academia and media is you can understand the media
/I think I’d like to work with univ, but takes so long to figure out what they are about, and to interpret what they are saying.
/physiological pyschology
/what if I’d grad with a debt
/if you don’t review what you learned in college, you’ll lose a lot. lot of what
/fried: why subsidize stu ed and not stu biz? 50% of college fams came fromm upper 25% of income.
/univ is where you postpone committment – bloom
/uci as marxist
/wonder if ethnic or other colleges are any more practial
/jones said he grad from college devoid of cs and it’s taken all this time to catch up.
/ed: objective, articulate, various schs of thot, frames of ref. semantcs, context, appreciation of various culs, sub cul, prejudice, age, rad, lib, mod, con, react..and other continiums. pol, hist, art? hum nature.
/no correlation twix ed and success – said jones?
how cathedrals & castle were built
/no college dorms hse hmless in summer. empty rm w/ a/c running
/lib dems at uci said oc rep chm.
/oppenheim said ba econ, ma pub ad. and used 0 for ea for job in gov affairs at great western
/finch: fed aid to ed is only l0% of cal’s. us has best higher ed in world. far left and right wanted rioter kicked out in 60s. decline in 60s-70s in kl2. college is a goal, not a right.. bergeson: jc’s got too varied. thus less transfering. [no mention of adults going back]
can we be = and excellent. plumber or phil.. ended up neither pipes nor phil held water
/cal has the lowest ba rate for natives. 40% are late.
need to challenge tenure and pub or perish. ivy league look here for stu as their enrollment is dropping.
/boys sent to pri schs and sis to pub as boys favored.
phd market has gone down.
/nyu had horror stories at being a landlord.
/we have a left brain ed system horn sig.
/cn – a big jerk off
/college = sanctuary for adolescents
/univ are lib p 63 us news 2/8/88
/all the hist I’ve had and can’t tell you how a battle is fought
/was it conjugating a guadralinear equation
/what would parachute bk say bout ed
/the maturity stu don’t get, they seek in cults, isms, ologies
sig
/natural or phy sci geo, geol, astronomny, zoo. botany, biology, anatomy, embriology,
physics, chem.
archeology, anthro
soc sci soc, hist, pol, econ?, phil?
/sylabus
/c use c-span/stu should study media to learn flaws BEFORE grad
/let blks + in, let hippies in, keep asians out
/l7 college discrim against asians 7/89
/cn never said use other people’s money or labor
/should tell you which fields you can support a fam on – blk & brn, & hippies vs asians
/any relation between the theories in college and the real world is purely coicidental jc’s – from mc academic into voc. [did the stus resist?] they handle l/2 the frosh.
/hippies want to throw away what we are trying to get – esl
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sent this to collge pres and — didn’t hear from em – probably not interested. College Credit for This?
Around l980 I took a writing class at a 2 year college. Two books were required, but no assignments were given in them, and few students bought them. Some writing was assigned and almost anything could have used. It was gone over gently in class. If anyone had done a poor job, it was never brought up.
The classes were mostly discussion; there were few notes taken and no tests. I missed many classes and assignments, yet earned 3 units of C.
A friend with a little effort earned an A.
A survey from the administration was taken; it was designed to elicit positive pablum.
Compared to l7 years before when I had to work hard to through college, this course was a joke. No wonder we’ve been graduating so many poorly prepared students.
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/c – a good place to stay immature
/how many never claim their college credits
/m.a. guy wished he had done more internships – only place he learned
/ed supposed to make us not prejudiced, civilized, etc
/thotful = intellect. & self-consciously intellectual people
/the guardians of cul have become its betrayers. plagiarism commonplace. cannibals idealized as flower children. all knock am.
/I didn’t have much enthusiasm for football games at cmc, sac, sjs,
/wc must resent college kids – and be justified in part.
nothing worse than academic pol. as little at stake. [?] fried
/should teach how bad some get kicked around after college
/assumption that everyone is and should progress thru the grades evenly
/one of blake’s profs said rambo reagan –
/let blks + in, let hippies in, keep asians out
/ never the sig of econ on pol
/ed = what’s left after you’ve forgotten all from sch = einstein
/students are schooled in idealism
/syllabus
/one campus banned coors as right wing
/lot of dumbness irregardless of ed
/write where col grads miss boat on wc, the poor, positions,e tc
/claremont grad sch’s self-serving eurodite lit
/claremont grad. asked bout conf. they send appl. a living labl linked with wider soc which we seek to enchnace, indeed, transform it. period of id w/ a profession and a disc. consortium. druker says mng is a lib art. looks like all their center’s are facades? for study programs. 36k in claremont
pub policy clinc
cent for pol and policy: ir, criminal justic, pub policy
cent for applied soc research – for psych stu. re health care, jd.
calif inst of pub affairs – claremont
/called lbsc – amazing way they have of bsing -self justifying.
/never told to watch vic at sea, crusade in eur, triumph of the will. why we fight.
gandhi, grapes of wrath?
/ also how to follow conversations – psych. which never had ments.
/straight shooting by jon silber. no standards in ed. believes meritocracy based on struggle [?]. pernicious [deadly] confusion twix = oppor and = ability. founding fathers didn’t believe it. 0 on teachers. thus scrap 4 yr program for qualif tests and l sem of pedagogy and practice teaching. also hi sch teachers should score an A on a lst yr college exam of their sub. luxery is more ruthless than war. he chafes hearing stu talk of entering real world after sch. frosh need more than grad stu. pro contra, pro life, don’t trust gorby. jessie jackson: full of minless, fhying pieces of nonsense. have to accept hardship and disappointment. confronting death and reality is part of ed. he really helped boston u. he’s spent more time thinking bout the issues he talks about than others who talk about them. time aug 28 ’89
/myths about blk ed ’70? sow
l poorly prepared blk stu must be recruited for college
2 the effort should be here as the better blk stu will make it anyway
3 blk stu require spec handling.
4 flunking them deprives blks of future leadership
5 stadardized tests contain too much white middle class material
6 Can’t criticize these 5. white who do are insnesitive or racist; blacks who do must be middle-class snobs.
same article: she would be eligible for … aid in law sch if her scores were low enough. Her univ poor larger sums into many inept blks.
Blacks who don’t go along with this are Uncle Toms, Oreos … those who oppose them are dismissed – the whites for not being black, the blacks for not being “really” black.
… the double standard … makes his [ a blk] degree look cheap …
… he cannot … have the … confidence … he really earned it.
/never heard in pol sci what gov should stay out of.
/ed a hippie and what have you got – a rad, a trouble maker, a fonda, gill, j. bastien,
/discrageful how unaware we are of eastern civ +
/anti german? jewish tilt in academia?
/no one told us how youthful idealists were dangerous
/charts, tv, pics in bks. are visual learning
/chinese consider jap occupation a holocaust. do our academics care about yellows killing yellows
/level of ed = brains
/ college credits for this? – see cc
/so much you can believe till you exp it – till you see it with your own eyes – jim, joe, etc. THAT’S your education.
/so that’s why ed should discuss REAL life – what affects stu. what’s happening to them now.cc to la times 9/89
[It was taught by George Siposs throught Coastline in Org. County.]
During the course a survey from the administration was taken; it was designed to elicit positive pablum.
/notice bout meti and other educted types, they are lost on simple things like does lawrence of arabia give insight into past arab world
/shakespear bores the eng. they keep it for the ams who want to venerate it
/i remember trying to get something out of king lear
/educators practically consider themselves clergy
[basic to fullfillment]
/us hist missed: trail of tears, jap interment, underground rr, malcom x
/jim bastien agreed that poly sci said 0 about econ
/shocking lacks, etc
/guy at keith’s party said he used 40% of his c ed, but specialties use more.
/i can’t see grubby stu at viet sp at timmon’s church: shirt tail out, hair, jeans, sneaks on seat in front.
/meti uses 60% of his engineering courses
/meti reminded me of how many stu cram, pass test, and forget all – so I should have retained more
/my ed didn’t tell me of the terrible climate in ny or what else about back there
/it sure didn’t make me streetwise and doubt sw courses could
/meti says if no job soon after grad, you chances go down fast. if none in yr, forget it. knows lots [of foreigners?] with degrees and out of work
/c & ll to jon silver l0k/89
/my ed didn’t tell me of the terrible climate in ny or what else about back there
/any relation between the theories in college and the real world is purely coicidental /
/stu drs at st. lukes vs real world
/never pointed out the diff minds: comp, art, creative, mech, etc
/shakespere bores many eng. ams love it. reason could be ams feel nostalgia for the homeland. and lack of major figures in am cul. eng look down bit on ams.
/part of geo of sch doesn’t teach what is the west, the so, the midwest, /unfair that some guys could pass tests so easilynnnn
/most anyone who’s hired an illegal knows how much better they work than a lot of our own.- espec teens
/what good did the odessey and the aneid do me?
/ed and sensible – a contradiction
/meti didn’t know bc and ad and coped out, nor berlin being in e. germ
/clear thru college w
/o hearing cons side
/hellen keller, edison, dr. zhivago, should be part of ed
/kids today taking longggggg time to get ba’s. few do it in 4 yrs l2/89
/never tell you realities of learning a lang- ability, pronunciation, time, idioms, slang
/meti didn’t know where japan was and probably others. poor eng for a ma-thus? he’s an ex of guy who could cram for tests
/if list approach is so good, why didn’t I ever get and use COS plastic things
/curriculum, matriculate, bacheloriate [ceremony]
/am u’s far better in teaching and research than jap.
/us doesn’t val jap lang like eur langs.
/chet said college kids had never heard of bad jap did in wwii from his speech.
/plan to fire inept uc profs. imagine that. they resist def of ineptness.
one stayed a yr after convictioned for emebzzlement
/the nazis strike – part II of why we fight – why hadn’t we seen this in college. lot of smart people in c doing dumb things
/why not video of de soto’s sp
/libs hate the biz of am is biz
/u of mich known for it lib… ism
/asians discriminated against in l7 colleges. 7/89 tv
/univ are lib p 63 us news 2/8/88
/ed and sensible – a contradiction
one rev said the harder one’s life the faster the maturation. and reporter said the more matuere , the more eager for academics??????
/ed follows trade -peter the great.
/any relation between college and the real world is purely coicidental
/c unreal in: nimby [frats], tenure, sports amateur sports
/efficient ed is far less expensive ed. do hippy college have an edge in giving credit.
/ c for many is expensive fun.
/u out of it in trying to be dem and setting up minorities for failure.
/most blk colleges on shaky $ ground. jc’s have become voc schs, 29% of stu of highest s-econ quartile [not in dict] go to u and 29% of lowest quartile. since 50’s more doors open to all, but tons of minorities drop out, few go beyond jc. fewer blks in college [due to farcial dual admissions, etc]. poor less likely to go to u [of course]. u sorts em out via vals, $ incentives, and inst practices [w/o defining such] [same as hi sch] [they miss pt – and assume college is great leveler]. minorites drop out faster – flaw [blks and brns do]
socio-econmic: mc & uc have good schs, stable fams, educated adults avail. those who sought to dem u in 60s 70s never imagined the gel nr-collapse of elem and 2nd ed. sig [everything they can do to drop all barriers to u – stupid!!!!!]
jc’s pic up where other shs FAIL [stupid] open admissions in neward – anyone can enter a jc there, hi sch dip or not – [incredible]
ll% of those in jc get ba’s
/25 yrs ago 2/3’s in jc’s were academic. now 2/3 are voc. —o– w post
/sow: r. double standards in college pubs: approving of gay life is ok, disapproving is not. he tried to say same with women, races, .
/didn’t even see exerpts of mein kamph
/ no test for lang ability
/isn’t the honor system for exams idealistic?
and a course in ethics is impractical
/go to college which gives credit for what you know . and take comps
/elite univ have disproportionate infl. profscam
/democratized college and thus lowered standards
/nothing in college taught me bout wc
/should show stu they can drop out w/o stigma = as ed is screening/college sports = biz
/libs and cons on same campus and stu never see the diffs
/4th is tenured marxist profs in c making 6 fig salaries
/play or real $ for investment course –
/0 on mng. in c
/don’t tell you in c people believe what they want to
/c=conspiracy against reality. self-delusion.
/need critiques like in writing club in c
/less noble goal of greater industrialization – am the 2nd cent guy – beard
/must be something wrong with athletic scholarships?
/no 5; c hides campus crime stats
/-infant mortality l/2 ed for whites and blacks since 70.
-dropouts – lowest level in hist for b’s and w’s.
-uib went down as trade deficit went up.
-func illit. no one knows how to def it. illit is going down.
reason for all these: ad advocacy grp find a problem. and academic is leased to do a fore-ordaned studyh. it exagerrated. print media call it crisis. tv follows up. and advocates claim a grass-roots movement and demand leg. thus credibility backlash. it demans academia. who trusts phd’s anymore. thus question to ask: who gains.-wattenberg 4/2/90 us news
/never told the evils of mercantilsm cn
/give em just enuff ed to make em dangerous
/give em just enuff ed to make em dangerous
/profscam:
/c & ll to jon silver l0k/89
(As G. B. Shaw said, many professions end up being conspiracies against the laity.) the brilliance of c should tap ea stu experiences, not the other way round – fix
/hi tuition for this?Please do not return this. If you can’t use it, no need to reply.
/absolutely no lessons on free market in college – none. saw all bout backward countries – dooley, etc. with NO comp of market.
/ 6? diff terms for gang rape on college campuses. we didn’t have that in our day.
7 their riots against police – cal poly 4/90. more ty of pub u’s?
/$500
/unit usc 4/90 claim lib profs give right wing stu bad grades.
/ 8 their behavior in matamoros mex – drunk, pee, vandalize, no respect, stuff that couldn’t be shown on tv. they wouldn’t do here as they know little will happen as mex needs tourists.
/some festivals get out of hand. annual spring festival – cal poly 4/90 vandalized cars, hms, biz. cops used tear gas, hi pres wate hses. hurled brick, rocks, bottle at cops. dozen cops injurred. smashed car windows, tore down st signs, climbed on roofs, peed in pub. smashed windows of liquor store. frightened employees. #
/9 supposed campus racism
/ i kristol said c’s are the least flex and adaptive insts in world, cept for po. One of the greatest injustices is college [according to Milton Friedman]. All the classes are taxed to support public colleges when those who benefit are primarily middle and upper class students.
/go get ed = go till you screen yourself out?
/ed is the great place to: experiment, extrapolate, theorize, postulate, posture, pay homage to .., pontificate, throw up ones hands, self- enoble, play with the minds of youth, patronize them, seek their praise, worship them, also to search in a way as to never find, holy grail, always new, and remain detatched from real world, never mature, like religion – can make anything you want.
/econ in college w/o fried
/vocab list I made in c
/gov burs are removed from the real world
/stu riots: san luis obispo and now in chico 5/90
/9? all kinds of phil and 0 on animal rights – flics
/why gaulladet separate. isn’t all male or female removed
/c was anti madison ave
/any relation twix l/2 of college and real world is coin.. 0 on alc!!!
drugs and smoking
/when in college you think blue collar statement, all brains and no sense, is defensive. yrs later find out its soon.
/rop wouldn’t do em – but couldn’t really ask em to, but why ask their loving students who need the real world.
/i’m for common sense which comes from the common man and is sometimes developed sensibly by the iq
/students are schooled in idealism
/how terribly much a computer would have helped in c !!!!!!!!!!!!1
/I wonder if they give tests on computers !!!!!!!!
/sig one. attrition in c is huge. 4l% of frosh grad after 6 yrs. higher at jc’s. c teaching more of what stu should have learned in hi sch. val of ba is suspect. lax standards at hi sch and c feed on ea other. success in hi sch is getting into college, but almost anyone can. 3600 colleges [ of which l500 are jc’s] only 200 are selective in rejecting some stu.
average hi sch senior does less than an hr of hmwk/day
c is subsidized. most c obsessed w/ surviving and so lower standards.
recs: require l2 grade wk for any loan for c. shut down l0-20% of pub c. raise tuition. c average for scholarships. these would raise hi sch standards in a sec. those in mid would study more. parents would take more int. less attrition. but won’t happen as would be called elitist & restrictive. $ is not the answer, as stu don’t study hard.
60% of hi sch grad read at llth grade level, but 80% of ba’s read at the same level. [what is “level”]. r samuelson w post 6/l8-/90 ============
/at college quotas for disabled, for atheletes
/often wondered what wc thinks of all the frills of college
/c vs lcd on tv
/and those who have more ed are guilty- as ed makes you resp
/c good in exposing you to things so much, you know their context – like the words: issues, terms,
/cal has largest and among the least expensive comm coll systems – gov duke 7/90
/ed should not mean lib
/how much a computer would have helped in college
/video taped lectures so workers can learn at the plant and not go to campus – out of amherst mass. univ of mass? sig
/the wrong ed is a dangerous thingpittfalls of ed too much, dangerous, wrong ideas – comm, soc. idealistic, impractical. too much at stake so take selves too serious. same with titles, wages, & prestige. plan eng. complicate. aloof. see pro
/leaned 0 bout easter christianity
/8 how stu behave in mex.. police can’t do much cause they’re tourists.
/l0 ridiculous physical strain put on medical students by having them work long hours with little sleep. endangers patients and proves 0. fell asleep at wheel after 36 hr shift. l00 hr work wks. inhuman. average 36 hr shift. hypocritical to tell peple to take care of selves and do this. they want 80 hr wks. ny lst st to reg hrs of residents. also stus. interns. [must affect their studies] # la 7?/90
/thinned skinned: anti jap in ny. but prove it?. racial tension in ny. hmless in lib cities. jb. kristol. kept asians out of c.
/title the unreal world of college
/ll frat hazing getting out of hand.
/comprehensive exams for c
/everyone hated poly sci, lot same with hist. what else, – when I was in sch
/beserabia – close to romania. lst time I’ve seen it. tv 4/90
/always the northern arguement bout civil war. same with civil rights.
/we don’t study eastern christianity – byzantium
/how to miss pt: don’t study asia, africa, shaka zulu. diff religions
/ed people don’t belabor the obvious.
/debate over multiculturalism. our studies are eurocentric.[which shortchanges both wasps, and minorities. world hist [misnomer again] seems to be a story of eur on top. europhobic assumes collective guilt [overeaction] [how can hist be written badly often or in the long run]
-perfect example of how to miss the pt
/never in college was given a hint as to the stupidity of j !!!
/course in geo and never learned where on map were bylorussia, moldavia, armenia?, the ukrain, all those usbekestan, georgia, baltics?
/a good college should have optional ibm terminals at libraries, in dorms, etc. w/ auto back up. same w/fax. title the unreal world of college
/how many marxist profs.
/tital hall: stumps, barn dance, toga party, bull sessions, drinking sessions. chella, pay tel, 4 to a rm.
/should be able to get full report on disk upon grad
/cn sexual harrassment at naval academy
/students may protest and act up as an attempt to get into the real world at any cost
/little on chas darwin
/giant fundraiser for saddleback col. lst i’ve heard of for a jc. [shows the diff in neigh. and the farce of pub ed] l0/90
Since young people in high school and college are not taught about nor required to gain experience in the real world, they are not prepared for the it.
/doesn’t take a phd to teach eng.
/the lib ed.. establishment. new rep.
contradition: educators are supposed to be the paragons of academic virtue, clarity, etc. and they are some of the biggest jargonauts
/how many profs in biz to any degree or $ mng the dead poets society
/ boola boola spent too much time on the theoretical, complex, abstract, obscure, and “pure”.
/anapolis has stu from 40 countries
/annapolis has stu from 40 countries
/college should teach you what you are not – financial, mech, etc.School didn’t prepare us for the real world. (Par for the course.) of college and the real world is purely coincidental.)
/learned nothing bout gypsiesshould have taught debating.
– The “professionals” they look up to are as human, fallible, and political as anyone. Many are verbose, arrogant, irresponsible, overeducated, and
miseducated.
– The late teens and early 20’s are a time of idealism, and the ivory
towers of academia fuel this with lofty, impractical schemes. As people
get older they become more conservative because many liberal schemes don’t work. Students should hear why they don’t.
/ed’s lst resp = prep for wk, life, ….
/free will, predestination, dialectic, econ determanism
/how many thesies and disertations worth reading
/also what lit is useless, mistaken, poorly written,
/torn jeans and cap on in c. several times.
/if a problem, have to take a course on it: parenting, citizenship, teen…
/if they don’t study ethnics in c, they’ll be lost in real world.
/in c cause you want to be.
/all want exp – SO that’s what sch should provide
/ex students
/fashionable at harvard dump on insts, fam, soc. la ll
/90
/mozambique refugees reportedly sold into so africa as slaves. r ll/l7/90
– heard of similar thing in sudan war. muritania
/should NOT get less able stu into the harder schs. same with ethnics – said sowell in fee.
/l2? date and acquantance rape on campus
/why not have tapes of stephen jay gould
/presumption, time,
/too much time
/clear thru c and never heard of fried
Exchange student and junior year abroad
/studying abroad might include studying in another part of country
/c sent to sow l2/90
/libs on c shout down speakers
/why is coastline teaching kids 3-8 how to make easter basket goodies. and bignning pianno ages 6-l2.
/why is coastline teaching kids 3-8 how to make easter basket goodies. and bignning pianno ages 6-l2.
/no place more removed from reality – cept a monestary
/see god and man at yale
/accuracy in media, l275 k st nw #ll50 dc 20005 send lists?
/good teachers and good stus need each other to function properly. [and good system ] both are resp for success in the classrm.Peter principle: all rise to their level of incomp.. thus all val work done by those just beneath. sig
/cn tons of nw eur. some on rest of eur. bit on lat am? but 0 on rest. then grad. then worship israel
/rape on campus . admin shucks it off as boys will be boys l2/90 tv
/networks pay ncaa to televise games . thus colleges compromised
/education or brainwash?-miseducation
/fed says stu have to pass test to get in cal comm colleges. latter filed lawsuit against this. cal has long let stu enter comm college regardless of past ed. l2?/90 la. supports my theory of anything for a stu [for $]
/severeid: his ed had NOT prepared him for war. oxford oath: won’t take up arms.
/gay stu with lot of earings. pres of class also bad. both at rutgers. 24% are on scholarship. lot of minorities. grp together in cafeteria
/student life policy and services
/how many of your former textbks would you rec to your kids !!!!
/ed brings no plain eng and no cs
/what has made ANY diff to us: scarlet letter, moby dick, jeckl & hyde, last of mohigans, daniel boone, davey crocket, lord byron, emerson, thoreau, trilogies, anthologies. nothing on chopin, bet.. mozart, but if we did, so what. impresario, virtuoso performance. the great books. classic comics. coronado, pizzaro. longfellow.
/metaphisics, existenial,
*There I studied government and history, and as I look back, neither explained the importance of business in domestic and international affairs – a monumental ommission.
/people grow out of religion
/if we don’t have enough math and sci people, import em
/hist stu should do fam tree
COLLEGE ===============
/something lonely bout parts of college – isolation of studying, all that thinking bout life, values, opposite sex, usually a diff setting – away from hm for lots [best thing].
colleg grads, never think what it would be like to miss college – all the fun parts – thus what is the world is it like for those who don’t go – the working class – what do they do for fun?
/cmc – dances, frosh camp, sports, water baloons, felt better after p.e., sing a long, meals were a break and a mixer, some dances, tux was too much, ski, keg at the wash once, some mixer at scripps, football games, swimming, all were breaks from my serious studying. hr from hm. folks said they saw lot of growth. sheila up once.
sac bars on windows, tj, hutch, cliff, skipped football games and swimming, kay elliot, sharon quinn, judy warnky, sonia smith, dr. beck, mike printham. vita craft.
sjs frosh camp – ed, apt w/ hutch, then room for a mo., then dick and heat-bait. rush, stu gov – brent davis, mavis – flic, colder, cappa-theta with kit duke, rf ers. burned out in summer sch. course.
then I was out a semester or a yr? and hm. – take any course?
csf best time: titan hall saved it. stumps, barn dance. mary lu, patty k, chella, vw, rich …., finished mid yr. but stayed on with 3 units [did I need em?] and vw job. maybe that’s were i was mentally – boola.
conclusions need fun to bal all that terrible studying.
what about hap’s and jeff’s exp. also phil, tom, smith,
/the earnest days of college. the serious notetaking i did at cmc fits in with what i do now
/if i had had a computer since grammar sch – espec college -it’s mind boggling. should get these the lst day of college: – list of jargon
/revolutionary concept of having stus rate profs [at csf?] i wonder what became of it
/rev of rising expectations
/college lends itself to pretentions. it’s a watershed re classes, iq, privileges?, breakoff pt. a screening out, a pt and time where idealism hits reality. how well ed are athletes who grad from college – karim, magic, etc. part of your ed: oral sex, etc
/college should prevent foibles of profs.
/the incredible amount of time you put in c: papers, terrible tests, classes, research, books, bad profs, etc – for WHAT. same for mil
/why 7 yrs nec to become architect
/articles on college are a fucked up as college – the writers wouldn’t be caught dead using plain english or simple logic. they have no use for the man in the st.
/why be in an ivory tower at that stage of life
/rutgers has residence for stu recovering from alc.
/”practical education” to some degree is a contradiction in terms.
/see sports
/jimmy le blank’s observation
/deisel automotive, hairdressing don’t belong in “college”
/ignored the wc while in c
/c 0 on homos, cypsies, trasvesites, etc.
/majority of those in who’s who had grades averaging from c+ – b. from a uc survey. ny herald tribune early 70s?
/not till it affects you.
/education or brainwash?-miseducation
/one of blake’s profs said rambo reagan –
/do useless things “train” you mind? doubtful. why not “train” it with useful things
/pomona college: let only the eager, thoughtful and reverent enter here.
/brinkeley: libs go into media or univ
/see “cleans” under pol
/rev of rising expectations
/quickest way to become removed from reality is to go to college
/finals isn’t like life
/should have kept it: jr col, st, col, and u
/l0 yrs ago, needy stu could get 50% funding. now it’s 20-25% 6/9l. in my day you didn’t grad with a big debt
/couldn’t understand the categories of colleges rated in us news one yr
/can’t transfer credits of some jc’s to 4 yr colleges
/college is disneyland
/follow front page and stock market to get sch into real world
/following front page or stock market would be quickest way to get stu into real world
/best in teaching free ent: hillsdale, u if chi, grove city college [pa], geo mason un, baylor u [tex], auborn u [ala], harding u [ark], said the john templeton f.
/ed nec for good citizenship.
/i appreciated the cmc deals in ny: lunch, college bowl
/pc anti mark twain – blacks, shakespeare – jews. one comp class had to focus on gender and race. pc is the marcarthyism of the left. ms lynn cheney said long as it stays on the campus, not sig. off campus they use more sense?
– Human nature is benevolent, enlightened, charitable, humane, etc.
/altruistic
/a black stu with good grades and sat will get in berkeley. a white or asian student with the same has a l in 20 chance. [polarization]. thus [?] lower stand, even in minority hiring for faculty & staff, spec consideration [?] for women and homos, sens.. training, speech codes, separatism in dorms, stu unions, hmcmg dances, yrbks, etc. anti white, male, eurocentric, racist. = atten to every ethnic hist can build esteem. [but] “western civ doesn’t need guilt trips’ a. schlesinger. profs afraid to speak out. spec programs not working for blacks. they have lowest college completion rate – only 30% get ba’s in 5.5 yrs. no do the programs equip blacks to compete and thrive in the broader cul. zuckerman 7/29/9l us news.
/little ed is a dangerous thing – right, cause it’s so bad
/never told of stupid jargon in c, including their own
/if colleges don’t know what whites are doing in college, they can’t know what minoirites are.
/can’t criticize ed like you can’t criticize religion
/what were the exciting iq discoveries in c: finding lenin being honored in life mag. used to love to pour thru those old vols in the stacks. pics more than others? histomap
/who’s afraid of vir wolf applies
/big fault: histomaps, and all the charts and graphs
/some pol motives behind ethnic studies. the univ is the last bastion of control over the changing ethnic makeup of a comm [la] [thus the last to recognize reality]
/l/2 the money is being spent on remedial courses at ucla – by the yr 2000
7/9l
/remember having a stupid text
/the val of the b.a. must be in the disc, vocab, obj, and false vals, cause it sure isn’t in most of the courses. c is idealism run rampant
/in 30s and 40s the iq and c worlds were apart. sig. insight 4/l4/86
/graduate thinking they are objective and also no prejudiced
/nothing on fried
/lack of info & practice in the lst 5., uselful info, useless info, & 6 misinfo in 6 & gaps [missing info]
(1) Physical health (diet, exercise, smoking, alcohol, drugs,
pregnancy, first aid, longevity, etc.).
(2) Mental health (maturity) (basic to happiness).
(3) Traditional values (ignored since the mid-60s & basic to one’s maturity).
(4) Career counseling (basic to finding one’s work).
(5) Marketable skills
(6) Academics (geared to the real world).
/freedom at midnight. might be required in c
/college teaches how to avoid reality
/i can practically guarantee that gw doesn’t tap nurseryland.
/asians discriminated against in l7 colleges. 7/89 tv
/l0 countries were against the allies in wwii – the axis [including austria] + finland, hungary, bulgaria, romania & burma, siam.
[lst time i ever heard it 5/9l
/just thot of the obvious: stupid college is far worse for the slow learner [me] than the whiz bangs who can far more easily shrug it off.
*/pub colleges benefit all l72? ….. they benfit mid and u c l72 who should pay for them l73
/more glad than ever I didn’t do grad work as lib and incompetent.
/how blithly people say get an ed, w/o qualifying it
scholarships. – how many are wasted
/lot wrong? with our ed system if we produce far more libs then cons in short and long runs.
/lib berkeley DID keep asian out – apologized.
/caps in class in college
/dr. sun – his gals trained on the job.
/us has best system of higher ed in world. usc pres. 9/9l
/hazing in c
/the irrelevant parts of college far worse for the slow student. no wonder I resent it.
/us: 60% of youth, 20-24, get some college. [misleading]. in fran and g less than l/3rd and in eng and italy less than l/4th do. BUT am hi schs are gen inferior to eur [us colleges have to make up for this]. yet us work force rates higher than eur. [vs our wk to ire]
/why a degree in drama, art, dance, music?, singing, sports, playing an instument.
/in college did we see profs smoke?
/you never hear of the success or relevancy of trade schs.
/ed as a priviledge, not a right? same with other????
/non-pro – the crazy way we learn things/2lk to send kid to sc. that’s only for basics
-l0/9l
/only way to learn some things is to live them: weather, slums, iq, afs?
/i assumed something was wrong in college with mind wandering – maybe nothing was wrong. no one ever said this. 88
/college is an exercise in how to miss the pt
/term papers were a nightmare. did i enjoy any?
/c is too much conformity
/c = idealism inc.
/studying ethics – about as relevant as church, which should teach em.
/don’t remember many of the papers i wrote in college. impressed on one hand; question the relevance on another.
/why college to be a nurse.
/lot of crap in c is just to flush out people. got to be a flaw in that. jeff never used calculus once.
/you’ll put up with stuff at that age, you’d never put up with later.
/c should analyze the jive of don king
/they don’t tell you what you will learn ABOUT college: pol, grades, flushers, just a piece of paper.
/you never hear of the success or relevancy of trade schs.
/why do so many employers reguire college degrees? makes no sense
/go for, ged’s, comp tests, or whatever to get piece of paper.
/d don’t reward self-ed, and they give honorary degrees.
/i can forget more than they’ll ever know.
/who could be bothered at this age with getting a degree – rita, mr. walker, cyn.
/harder for older students and irrelevant, untrue.
/viets and ed is all the more reason for comp exams and sensible ed
/was just with a bunch of college instructors and was NOT impressed-occ bunch that visited lil saigon- could be those who need the brownie ptsstudied hist and pol, later sw, and not a WORD about econ
/teacher said in all the years, she’d never been told of viet customs [relevant to her teaching viets]
/new theory by al: naive, idealistic education slows a person’s maturing – some more than others?
/my periodic, cumulative way of testing would be much fairer to slow students. i could redesign ed with my eyes closed
/bio course and no compost pile, hosp, farm, air pol?, sports, supermarket, beach, mts?, nursery,
/writing in longhand as soph in college. had to make tables, charts. when they would have been better out of a book. got d. 30 yrs later. hated it then and now. never used it. extremely presumptuous of some panel to decide i had to go thru such torture. resent it. can’t pronunce terms. irrelevance. no respect for em. type it all up – what for. tons of info gone over.
/inch of notes. idealistic. other stu must have felt same bout hist. – so what in hist does anyone need – histo map.
/i would not get along on a college campus. wouldn’t want to be there either. c is an exercise in absurdity. resent it more now.
/c should be fun, not misery
/city gov course looks terrible.
/why don’t gw stu help oc clean up mc
/college courses are like language – if you don’t use it what good is it
/thru college and no def of sportsmanship
/college is theory, splitting hairs,
/irrelevance of college points to gpa
/i’m hoping the irrelevance of college means that good grades only means a some could learn quicker.
/course in ethics – cmc. hist of phil-sac. lat am geo. un
/depressing that lot of notes not even interesting or relevant enuff to look at.
/could i have been rebelling in c?
/audited burdick’s western civ
/ir law. by weed. nat. admin. st and local gov?
urban problems and admin – ashley.
one had us look up something in fed register?
/how many disallusioned profs are there
/cmc classes better than others?
/org county state college. then org st. col. then cal st u at ful
[org free state]
/more discouraging now. why’d I study this. what good did it do?
/james reston: college ed reporters think they know it all – that’s a pretense, which is the enemy of good reporting. also they focus on big shots, when the news is on the periphery.
/most hi sch grads don’t go to college. of those who do, l/2 never finish. those who do are 25% of the hi sch grads. w post. oct 2l-/9l so why most schs geared toward college? w post ll/9l
/c is an iq disneyland
/stu waste time in c and c wastes time on stu
/free speech on campus being restricted. aclu is anti. bad report. miss pt of now what you do but how. also disturb the peace, defamation.
/job lock: can’t get ahead? or quit
/guy got picked up, in jail for 3 mos, had to plead quilty & pay fine, or be in for another 3 mos. sounded like carlos.
/montel williams wearing short robe. a stripping couple on. trash. day.
/at parties and job interviews, dave doesn’t know whether to put his hands in his pockets or not. they go in and out.
/gay football teams: tattle tales, teachers pets. the team song is: kindergarden baby, born in the navy.
/i’d explain it, but your mind doesn’t reach that far.
/gov should force people to be free. vs wel.
/libs don’t credit pri: ed, justice, charity, trans, health, police?, housing, soc agencies, environment? [nor other non collect… measures see lists] sig?
/jeff anti reality and can really bob and weave.
/brokaw: fed will cut the int rates, but that’s too late for many l2/9?/9l /why can’t food be shipped in from scandanavia, w. eur, turkey, iran, etc.
/the lux tax backfired, as the rich now buy used planes, boats, jewelry. so makers of these have laid off people. and less $ for gov. sp
baby with bath water
/yoshinoya l2505 39 w side nr lampson.
/l9l6 asian uprising in ussr against participation in the war. never heard of it. tons killed.
/st petersberg changed to petrograd during wwi?
/have whites ever been ranked: jews, dutch, germans, scandnavians, eng, french, those of the romance countries,
/checks and balances in econ ?
/carerras said performing is fascinating. i feel the same about speaking.
/700 club: santa clause taking away from meaning of xmas.
/my b&c was on tv when getting kicked out.
/need warning label on infomercials.
/put mike on ice skaters to catch their breathing. another on skates, wind.
roslyn sumners – what grace.
/biz merchant
/bruce morton, cbs, said hist may hardly remember gorby. 00000 l2/9l
incredible short sighted.
/calif has open adoption – get to find nat parents. so? ads, and biz aspect.
/most couples want a boy or girl; we want a faggot
/gangway, here come’s big al.
/How and dave brot me into the mainstream of misery.
/being single in that w. going to a funeral in it = zhivago.
/nat. legal found
/ah yes, a xmas card of big koz pistol whipping his wife.
/in party situation
/dea’s gag and barb bit
/rufinia in ukraine, near chec?
/southern accent a handicap – over . thus to sch for it.
/how taylor, rock hudson, jane wyman in Magnificent Depression.
/insinuation that the entire problem of no drs in rural areas is because drs default on their obligations. 60 min. l2/l5/9l
/real nice people in aud of boston pops xmas program.
/opening scenes of sat night live.
/get ideas from those who have taken tours.
/trigg’s hair – any way to rep one’s fam. his drums. danielle. anger twix his girls. were we brot up that way? or hap’s boys irresp. i say jeff just might reap the whirlwind with his kids. he used to yell at em. lc.
/as casandra, i have to accept a lot and not expect me to see what i do.
/lot of educated people are dangerous.
/those who are mixed up before college are moreso after.
/those who are mixed up before college are moreso after.
questions for profile
/how much of one’s education does one use?
/how practical is one’s education?
/how relevant is one’s education to the real world?
/What percentage of your college courses could you have done without? Which college courses could you have done without?.
– That conservative students go into business and liberals go into the media, government, teaching, and social work.
Not as much as we’re led to believe. They missed the degree which opens some doors. In that sense it’s unfair: those with four years of questionable education get better jobs than those with three years of five years but no degree.
– The subjects one liked, if lucky enough to get a good professor and good book. no fit
studied hist and pol, later sw, and not a WORD about econ
Pres. Stark, I attended CMC one yr. 59-60. PROFILE turned this down some time ago. I think you’ll find it interesting. l2/9l c.
/destructive ed = having to learn crap which counters true ed
/in c and psych they never teach you to relax and follow feelings.
/michners said there used to be quotas in med and law schs. – meaning limited no of stu?
/silber: finds many girl stu exceedingly scruffy,
/jimmy le blank’s observation
/dean walker said ll/9/58 poor verbeal score meant reading difficulty.
/a number of today’s profs were protest kids of the 60s
/to get to dc, go to harvard and turn left
/never heard in pol sci what gov should stay out of. or about econ.
/silber: l9 yrs at boston u. endow up l0 times. broke faculty union. called some too left. down on schs of ed.
/sch tests what a person has learned in sch, not what he’s learned from life.
/poorly written books, idealistic theories,
College students thought Africa was in No. America, the USSR next to Panama, and the “state” of Atlanta next to No. Carolina.
/bunch of c’s ripped off gov like stanford. l/92
/pro stu who don’t want to face the real world. Students have to take a lot of these without being told they can be a waste. They don’t have to take courses on the practical matters of:
– Being around one’s peers.
[Experience in this field later convinced me it’s overrated and misses the mark, but could be good.] working for the government or the private sector.
/didn’t use degree: charlene, melinda?, sara?, marlene?, judy?,
/didn’t get one: june, mary, 4h, jo,
/did use: kay elliot, arlene patterson,
/dk: cathy gerrard
(liberal idealism)
/define work habits
//fact that colleges use atheletes to raise money- An elite? Of sorts, while preaching elites are undesirable.
/the more ed you require, the more chance of out of touch
/need field work to get into the real world as quick as posssible.
math and sci, accounting, stat
/sig – why does college set criteria for “education”, “degree”, and not the outside world?
/ed and c to lamar alexander, sec of ed. 2/92
/in architecture school, they didn’t teach my brother the price of building materials.
/spk of all the things jeff’s ed did NOT teach him – costs.
/in sch they asked jeff to reevaluate himself as to whether he’d ever have the making of an architect. they didn’t think so.
/need course on the good and bad in religion.
/find ray bradbury and send him c +
/universal maxim
/collegiate network, Mark Charnack, Tell me if you use this. 3/l3/92
/nix: academics enamored with equality at any cost thus soc. look to gov rather than to people. anti biz. time has passed the academics. the decline of the us is dear to their hearts.
/grubby students studing esthetics on a beautiful campus.
/why video games at gw college 92
/c = rose colored glasses.
/have to live thru to believe: pyramids, jim and tammy, jb, watergate, vw,
/making of the continent [from best of bbc] should be in sch.
/college gives you so much theory and so little practice, no wonder you come out chaffing at the bit.
/pres of g-town u says you can’t stop building by definition.
/at one end of campus: welcome to the ivory tower. at other: welcome to the real world.
/at one end of campus: welcome to the ivory tower. at other: welcome to the real world.
/college kids grad with debt.
/i went thru college and 0 about ethnic problems. 00000 !
/gw vs nurseryland
/media-certified black leadership, value-neutralists
/i noticed a college that gives credit for experience. not bad, huh?
/thank goodness you get out of school with some of your life left.
/what color is your parachute should be part of curriculum
/see edb, edc, edj
/functionally illiterate get into comm colleges. said mensa
/hap, hutch, and others are perfect examples of what college isn’t
/imposters in the temple? by m. anderson of hoover inst. he was on c span. and confirmed everything I said. -i sent him c. he said it cost col stu $70
/hr to go to class.
Dear UCI opinion editor and editor in chief. If you can use this, please let me know.
/after all these years what is sin?
/I don’t think we ever had first aid in sch – even college- only boy scouts, lifesaving swim course – jr lifeguards. also as reg lifeguard.
/someone asked kissinger why battles among college profs were so bitter. he said, because the stakes are so small.
/christian religion is the ONLY one, the best one. if so much wrong with others, maybe there is something wrong with ours. if others have caused so much damage, maybe ours has too. m, e, c,
/two incentives for colleges’ admitting wealthy kids are no scholarship nec, and better chance of future alumni donations.
/entry level jobs for col grads has shrunk by l
/3 over past 3 yrs. 92 l0% of grads working at job requiring no degree in 60s. now it’s 20% and headed toward 33%. gergen us news l/92
/terrible thinking in ed
/trustees, regents, overseers – all same for colleges. they are the problem. job of univ: teaching and research. some depts of univ are 80-90% of one party. costs stu at elite univ $70/hr to go to class. c-span 8/92 on m? anderson of hover. he was with rr.
/tony brown: l6/5 of anglos finish college; 46% of asian-ams.
/tony brown: l6% of anglos finish college; 46% of asian-ams.
/cypress sophomore – hippy. tv.
/ed wasted on gilmour, hutch, hap, tom, phil, suzie, me, dj, how – everyone – basler?, patterson, r. allen,
/friends blithly send kids off to college to get an “ed”.
/why isn’t there a top cons univ?
/in college everyone knew how to 2nd guess the test questions. i didn’t.- academic: what’s practical, [thus showing how removed rest is]
/comprehensive tests. ratings/tutoring and apprenticeship – learning by observing, doing. individ ed. informal ed. ben franklin ended formal ed at l0. self-ed = autodidacticism. must unlearn rote learning. best way to be cr si to wrestle with all uncertainties from the beginning. edison put out of sch at 7 as retarded. went to work at l2. big shots in sci claim best work done by huge bur, but in fact cr done in small ways. one said, I never pay atten to experts … i calculate all myself. learn your subject YOUR way. ivy league doesn’t produce sig innovation. self ed more avail for [mc and uc]. some people [good at trades and bad at humanities; others are opposite] ed bur stifles [wc]. growth of bur raises the rage and rebellion of [wc]. author could whiz test in car repair, but not repair his car; his cousin was opposite. /bureaucratically educated elites are bad for edm edia, churches, founds, gov, stu read marx, but not a smith. look at college bkstores: more marx than smith. look at the refs in indexes of faculties’ pubs – same. p 223 same for hayek and galbraith. equal ed push since ’45. Ed $ up 30% in real terms in 80s. scores down. we spend more/stu than any major nation. and some explaination … p 224
/jap spend almost 0 on research in univ. it’s research is in pri biz. germ doesn’t do sig research in univ either. 224.
/cr people are often insecure. -fee 6/92
and farcical education for top college athletes (one couldn’t read a menu). (When I graduated from college in the early 60s, I had to work hard to pass a course. When I took one in l980, it was easier than my courses in jr. high.)
/it wasn’t until college that I was warned about the comp – iq
/during college I couldn’t get any job worth having, same after?
/the comm college system has to be regarded as a defacto incentive for im – a gi bill for people who were never GIs.
/course in what’s wrong with college.
/freid: we have choice and private sector in higher ed – far more than in elem and 2nd. we have best colleges in world and some of the worst? elem and 2nd. 92
/c. heston: most of what he learned was out of sch.
/ga bk should be hmwork for ….
/teacher of yr at gw said beside subject, you have to teach writing, thinking, interpreting, etc. 92
/univs differ from rest of world – espec biz world.
-univ pres train to be mngs by teaching and research.
-the val of a credit is same if taught by full prof or a grad stu. costs the same too.
-increasing endowment should lower tuition but it raises it.
-a course taught by a grad stu at a pri u can cost l0 times a course at a comm college taught by a phd.
-published research is ev, but under grad teaching seldom is.
u’s are disorganized, inefficent, contradictory, and unnaccountable.
stus protest social, pol, and cul matters, but not class size, overenrolled required courses, incompetent advising, unavail profs, disinterested part time intructors, unintelligible teaching assists. [& relevancy]
faculty like fat research grants and slim teaching loads. most vote dem.
most of what is pub is trivial. [great] w post 92?. see sig/we study mao, but do we study those who resisted – like chang
/many educators say youth are not ready for college work … rep d mccurdy. la 92
/% of col grads in non pro jobs.
/experience drills lessons into you.
/college – as much tainting as purification./saying why doesn’t someone wosh away the flies was cute, but ….
/cul: ballet, art, sculptor, opera, classical music, lit, arch.,
/great lit: shakespere, kipling, cicero, hawthorne?, kipling?, dickens, twain?,
/dallas county comm dist. stupid soc. program. 93/much post secondary ed in com col is at hi sch level. l/2 of c stu quit or flunk?
/frats could get ahold of tests
/gov loses 3 bil/yr on stu loan defaults.
/never studied comparative religion and the flaws of ea.
/chance of filling in missing info with misinfo.
/rush: c said romance was a product of eur cul that spread only recently. the romantic tales of other countries were of the elites
internship [vs wk/exp]/half the profs at harvard are foreign born.
/pol correct, free speech, relevancy, academic freedom, /why help kids into college is lot of c grads are uib? w post.
/many poorly prepared youth get low cost college oppors & soon drop out as can’t do the work. sig. w post l/93
/why help kids into college if lot of c grads are uib? w post.
/sent c to the new univ. [uci]- Realistic? No, idealistic.
/bob has it on his wall/the sci of marketing.
/what did my ed cost. 2k at cmc, 0 at sac, lk sjs, lk csf of which i paid part. what did it cost me in time? but look at the time i lost since and the overall results./i had course on civil war & can’t tell you a thing about it./need list of those who ed selves: truman, bradley
/how many flunk? from what backgrounds?/said jeff would never be an architect./moynihan: scholars don’t look at the partitions that did NOT happen, the strife that went away, the multiethnic societies that work. sig. /crap of c not fair to slower stu who have to put in 2-4 times the effort to get thru dumb books, etc. and not fair for cr, etc./coleen said mandatory to take career counseling in comm college. 93
/bob had c on his wall. what a compliment, graphs,/self ed- the rand? historical atlas/part of ed should be realizing what you can and cannot do./ed follows trade – peter the great
/ed, c sent to bergeson/rediscovered after 20 yrs: hitler, vw, malcom x, watergate? is 20 yrs a gen?/learn more from think thank than from college
These statements and my experience have caused me to question professionals and to have more respect for non-professionals.
/master’s in disaster relief.
/w. bennet: lot of cons on campus are almost underground. /what college did NOT teach me – everything I’ve ever written.
/never ask how much ed wasted – via tim butler, steve3
/pc ruled out some speakers being on campus in past. 92 rr.
/to academics, the state is the same as society. reason 3/93/I heard academic politics are the worst. and they’re bad because the stakes are so small/barnes an noble catalogue is eurocentric/even in c it was WESTERN eur/academics have trad formed the elite in most culs. la/the prof who get the most grants is seen as best. la
/uc st bar.. class in porn
/i can’t tell you what aristole, plato, socraties said. never heard a word since college.
/when you’re right there it’s diff. guy lead out of stater bros in handcuffs must have been embarrassed.
/why not call college, “monestary” because it’s about as relevant/did I get a better ed or more relevant at cmc than the rest /all the college students who should be turning in neigh complaints and being spotters for cops./c studies everything but reality. where some of the best brains miss the simplest points.
/definitely need a course tracking the lib bias/people whose ed didn’t make a diff: me, phil, dj, how, smith, patterson, hap, jeff, c abbot & hus?,
credentialism: drs, lawyers, dentists, teachers,
/handwriting anaylisis is a sci?/23l sow. ba = perseverance, iq, disc. hired for that, not for the ed.
/policy analysis for cal ed. tank at uc berkeley/file no of my ba 62l0237
/how many thesies and disertations are read or …
/ivy league = 8 = in order of their rep: h,y, princ, dart, cornell, bown, col. u of pa. other good schs, but ivy l defines prestige. ruling class. pic with shoes on upolstery
/l9% of c kids in Ivy league are cons – all 4 yrs. 58% are lib. us news 93. those in eng [which us news took as an indication of lib arts] were consistently to the left of those in biz. 93 blew it end by saying lack of pol know.. was 0./sch didn’t tell jeff prices for building hm. /why beautiful campus and grubby students/instead of dropping eggs, get stu into real world – crime, etc.
greek tradgedies
/the lst step toward a solution? is to call things by their right names.
/virtual abolition of requirements in hi sch and c. la.
/sow: academics have no backbone.
/campus sec guards univ of az. routinely stop and check out blk stus on campus. won’t drive em hm after football games./instead of all the commotion over black studies, hispanic studies, asian studies, etc. why not just have ethnic studies ? likewise why not study world hist instead of western civ?
/probably resistance to study hist of africa as it would be so embarrassing, even distructive to blacks.
/none of my peers go to greek tragedies
/silber: c is not a dem. the more dem, the worse.
/seeming folly of studying theater in c.
/northeastern univ of boston? puts stus to work at jr’s. 3 mos wk 3 mos study. it’s called “cooperative program”. tv 6/93. [antioch too?]
and stus get big jump on the job market . makes studies far more relevant/the ba is accepted as the sign of an ed person. la/thru c without seeing 7 part series why we fight.
/hillsdale said they are the highest profile cons c. others have various depts which are cons.
/what would I have done in wk/study? think tank? sw? write? pol? run and agency?
/how can you be ed and only know western civ. contradiction
/untruths have always been taught at c and they have always been presented in a biased way. wsj. 93. /idiotic afrocentric pts in sig lecture at wellsley. accepted as truth. and not challenged by admin. [strickly pol] wsj. 93. /my course on the un did help better in cities? re wk study. /no statues on campus?
/mises: c = kensians and marxists.
/cmc – your folks paid tons for your to be around some elite. you don’t know at the time. my old rm. collins hall. scripts, pomona. less fab in day time. [was superb at night].
ideal campuses in many senses. better mems there than at all? the other colleges. old vs new bdlgs. wasted ea summer? charm of claremont’s stately hms, arched trees, landscape. the privileged air of academe. this was more of the classic campus like out of andy hardy? or love story, etc. to go back was a rite of passage. nancy’s hse was best part.
/Roger Gorman : 3 days as engineer and quit
/cmc brings back what forces shape young radicals.
/ftree would be worthy project for sch/no one talks of the heartbreak in c.
/file no of my ba 62l0237.
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/9 of l0 c grads don’t end up in what they studied for. stu? on firing line. 93. ed is for the sake of itself.
/arbitrary l20 units = ba
/title “If you didn’t finish college”
/computers show that you learn by doing. bks=o. so they have to call it a computer “lab”.
/bk on crusades had FIRST info on swords, chain link mail, ..
/if i had been my parent, i’d have: comm, fam ther. int tests [done], exp, wk/study, short circuit b.a.
wasted? ed glasser, tim butler, smith?, hutch, hap, me, girls, brad and jon, how taylor, jones.
/ed: how to think vs cs.
/cn – beyond the melting pot.
/dick armey’s bad fund raising letter: c is even farther left than 20 yrs ago. 93 he was the only free market prof at his c. cons are harrassed on c. libs dom journalism schs.
/from dem to rep: reagan, kilpatrick, phil gram,
/c bans on unpopular speakers. us news. incredible.
/c never heard of hh. von mises, hayack.
/college is an exhaustive study of bullshit.
/went to sjs and never heard of hoover/never heard of hoover, aei, /what’s diff twix a c and a lib arts c? & and nat univ and a regional univ. etc.
/remember in college the older students shaking their heads after class and saying the lecture just didn’t describe what it was like in the real world.
/total lack of econ in hist.
/cronkite: teach skepticism to avoid cynicism.
/advanced training ir, box l, oakbrook, ill gets you into work
/exp toward a ba? said ycca = young cons council of am. – religious. skip/college ed people who won’t be obj or talk heart to heart.
/how’d I learn what i did: ny, informal, exp. hh,
/academia is elistist.
/educators never use the real world as that would show how stupid and irrelevant they are. sig.
/i’ve never been able to figure out what political correctness is about. just another stupid debate you’d only find on campus. 2 hr debate by buckley etc. on tv and it’s still as clear as mud. (their worse debate)/pc: can’t refer to blks as exslaves, water buffalo. yelling anti semetic while drunk in quad brot suspension. stealing stu paper didn’t. fighting words. civility, sex harrassment, actionable, radical egalitarianism. is this a game to make iq’s look good. lst amend. math prof said if girl gets invite to boy’s rm she can expect sex. hate speech. cops=pigs. heckling. civil and free discourse = xxx. 25% of pop goes to c. wfb didn’t like some calling lbj & sen war criminals. he’s evasive, petty, sub. doesn’t think we have racial problems. [c settles all problems with another course. c thinks they change the world] burned lbj in effigy. wouldn’t dare take down a banner of homophobia sucks, but would if it said homosexuality sucks.
left on c for free sp in 60s; now it’s the right. 93.
/wc with 3 yrs of c – tim butler. and steve with l.5 yrs.
/laski, an eng lib. /average prof spends l0/wk teaching.
/honor system and cheating in mil acadamies./a former pres of a big college said, colleges never stop building – part of the image?/a lot of college is the obsessive purwuit of irrelevance, jargon, obfuscation./a lot of college is the obsessive pursuit of irrelevance, jargon, obfuscation./academics on firing line: c should be better than rest of society. rh, bs, j,
/basic econ text written by LIB paul samuelson.
/c teaches surfing, wine tasting, juggling, golf, tennis,
/need at least one course on reality.
/m anderson sent note./ORU for wholesomeness/a correspondence phd.
/never studied the spread in c.
Graduate schs law, biz, med, eng, arts [film, music, drama, fine art (= art?) and arch [should be separate], sw & pub health [which is disease, safety of food and water (should be med), now it includes violence, which should be law enforcement] us news 94/c: study crap in a crappy way.
/how many texts do stu keep?
/should be able to self-ed yourself and take oral and written test to see what level you’re at. – like with spanish.
/grading on the curve. what crap./practical ed: study what they live !!! The most famous of class theorists, Karl MARX, understood class in this very general sense when he wrote in the opening line of The Communist Manifesto, “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles,” Marx’s major contribution was to add to this list the two specifically modern classes produced by industrial capitalism, the BOURGEOISIE and the PROLETARIAT /school should reward the stu who learns and retains, not the one who can cram the night before and forget it all the next day./never heard of pearl st buck/battle of bulge etc but not flying tigers. eur war but little bout war in the pacific/academia – the repository for confusion. ag/groliers reminds me of stilted mealy mouth texts in c./what kind of lopsided ed do you get when there is not even one course on asia, africa, the arab world, the balkans, & little bout lat am.
/full time student getting ssi. what kind of crap is that?
/c profs complain no one listens to their ideas outside the classroom. reason is their irrelevant said rush/thru c and no def of ed.
/profscam by chas sykes
/people round world losing respect for c 6/94 w post./you wonder about slavery over the ages and how much was ignored or not, and the ethnic implications.
/60-62: 20 mil starved? in china. we never heard.
/began to think at cmc.
/schs are labs for idealists/should teach what appear to be good and points of the major? religions.
/bk on crusades had FIRST info on swords, chain link mail, ..
/total lack of econ in hist.
/why not bk of inside info in cwasted? ed glasser, tim butler, smith?, hutch, hap, me, girls, brad and jon, how taylor, jones.
/gw has an “organic garden” and I can virtually guarantee the stu and faculty connected with that have no contact with n land. and don’t want to know it’s next to em. how does n land feel?
/”the arts” the humanities.
/why educate without instilling character. what sch does this. greatest ed is living somewhere else.
/how educated are we if we grad from col never having even heard of uzbekistan, etc.
/knowledge but not wisdom
/i resent the great effort c took for students like me who had to put forth maximum effort just to keep up. for what – a piece of paper./college helps you talk over over people’s heads./wc raises as many good kids [%] without all the fancy degrees. a/tel law should be part of ed./all that brain power going to waste in college.
/if c did so much for our thinking, shouldn’t we have realized it at some point?
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taught by George Siposs through Coastline in Org. county, l980
A friend, with a little effort, earned an A.
put in jap, comp, ir, val?, probably hasn’t changed much
/tho all will say it’s really tougher now, I really doubt it.. ==============/send kids away to $, prestigious c and they come back saying
– cap is [bad &] destroying the planet – rich are paying fair share – marx was misunderstood – gov owes all health crare and job. – fed deficits are harmless. polls say 80% of all c grad consider selves lib or rad libs. mark skousen/paul lorenz – 23. just out of c where he studied the clouds and lived with people who lived like pigs./naval academy: honor yet don’t snitch. thus omerta. if break honor code, you’re out and have to pay $80k, for your ed. 6 out quick to quash and cover up scandal – least till after army navy game. 60 min. 9/ll/94. like d land. in
/what ever started on campus and became a genuine movement? vw? /uci? plans to build an ecological learning center – rather than visit and learn what already exists along those like, i say./paul samuelson – dean of am’s lib econ.. nr
/test for vocab of course.
/hillsdale, – the liberal bias on campuses – so much is missed.
/minorities are 26% of col univ. ’90
/just thot of a good one. school should CREDIT you for all kinds of things [if you pass a test]. like NY. I probably learned more in NY than in college. I should be able to take an oral an written test and get credit for it. [College is an ivory tower – with no interest in the real world]/c could make a course of ethnic enclaves
/formal ed vs informal ed.
/guy got mba from standford and never was brot up fried or adam smith. fried says right as c is soc. sig./j doti said pc is sep but equal.
/who could be most critical of c? biz, mil?, practical tanks, cops?/comm dept at golden west probably doesn’t even now ch 50 is on campus.
/why give a scholarship to kid that doesn’t live at hm. or who goes to a pri c. and why give one to kid with long hair.
/rising tide of expectations.
/confused listings in tel bk. have to ask em what their depts are about.
/lib studies, rel studies at csf.
/how can your ed mean what it should if you don’t review it.
/when teaching, newt and armey couldn’t get tenure.
/stanford biz sch is full of libs. and they worshiped dukakis. one prof said give em l0 yrs and they will change. switched to pass fail which divided into “grades”
/if you didn’t have a date every weekend in college, something was wrong /why no lockers in c?
/transcendental bullshit
/hershey was contemptuous of bk learning.
/trigg’s scholarship go up with each earing?
/i never liked the cram the night before biz. something inherently wrong./mark shapiro said c stu ill prepared more? ea yr./banks and c’s did well by stu loans. by l990 the average c stu was graduating $l0k in the red.
/c towns and gov town[s], like dc, are similar: attract those more talkative, insulated, less action-oriented. tenure. c towns don’t face econ problems as always have a supply of stu. dc: incumbents have almost insurmountable advantages. both: indecision, so appoint a study comm. the soc and biz life intertwined in both. both have town & gown problems and can only rally around sports. self-absorbed. take selves too seriously. mix op and fact. mclaughlin grp is a frosh debate. la? 94?
[sig how diff fields THINK.]
/past eng prof on hill in randall’s off told me he wouldn’t have passed my paper./more reasons for fatal conceit for those just out of c. ag.
/college bans on unpopular speakers. [incredible] 95/bear’s guide to earning c degrees non-traditionally. [but probably many wouldn’t recognize em. via loompanics unlimited, box ll97, port townsend, wa 98368./john silber insisted on standards which turned around a declning and hippyifed boston u. 60 min.
/c loans started in mid 60s. us news./find bit on 90% of pro j’s are junk. sig of old file cab.
/lot of the brilliance of desert storm came from research at univ’s. 60 min. 2/95
/asian instructors who can’t be understood. ta’s. promoted toward tenure on the number of pages you’ve published in journals no one reads, not the number of good ideas you come up with. [90% is junk i read long ago.] tenure guarantees academic freedom which is essential. [must be another way to get it.] tenure causes deadwood. 20k so called scholarly journals at u of ariz. 60 min 2/95
/let this depress us: our folks spent so much to put us thru college and look how we turned out./college should be a sep campus, trades, esl, kid stuff
/if you ask an un ed person which is better foam or fiberglass insul, he’ll take a guess. an ed person wouldn’t./c stus protest as want something relevant.
/hassle of getting into colleges.
/i remember hearing kerensky was at stanford.
/academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of pol because the stakes are so low, said wallace sayer.
/0 bout media in c
/bill maher. kids run the campuses. 95
/c should have prizes for the worst books, the most j, etc./college – a study in irrelevance./machivelli/i used to check out flics at sjs and view em.
/my ideas would put more resp on the folks and reward them for their wisdom./rewarded for knowledge of computers, mowers, cars, hsekeeping, work habits./how many grad without knowing computers.
/grading on curve. joke./eng l0l
/why don’t c stus do practial research – get into REAL world.
/I wonder if there is a college or any kind of school that guides and PLACES students as it teaches them. and if they get credit./all those kids doing research in c. little or none of it practical or used./academia has a genius for missing reality./college is more interested in studying the world than in being in it./guy on cap hill wouldn’t pass my writing at age 30 in a frosh class. syntax.
/mitsubishi es. nice. not hb fine 626 mazda – nola and haz.
/instead of santa ana college, it’s rancho santiago college. DUMB. my old college, csf, changed it’s name 3 times. !/i kristol was in alcove l at ccny. 2 was commies. so my few weeks there turned out to mean something.
/flagen of beer.
[profane] speech, political correctness,/the flic ANIMAL HOUSE sure brot back the good memories.
/ben said lot of comm c’s built in 60s. sow says too bad as many NOT interested in c, and given pablum, which anyone teaching then knows it. 95/accuracy. in academia 800 787 0429 /fed register in c. c papers bad too.
/if c didn’t need the $ from sports, it wouldn’t waste $ etc. on atheletes. /sports is another part where c is out of touch./college should teach one course on the real world.
/how many of your profs would you rec/c’s make fuss over stus on sports teams, in front of their folks, to keep em happy. swim team.
/a course on computers vs hands on reminds you of college – course on everything but life.
(Why educate a radical?)/great books = 0/those that can do, those that can’t teach./my ba helped get me in door in wel, … to depressing/kids of today get ba and have to settle for burger king. said nursing hm worker. w post-96/college “annoints” its graduates. you were annointed with a B.A./l0 criteria for ratings countries for econ freedom. never in c.
/bran said occ was joke compared to csf./grad from c and forget what you don’t USE. like lang.
/tragic heros are brot down by fatal flaws.
/how do cons profs get jobs on campus.
/how many of your texts would you keep or rec.
/mil. sci.
/school tries EVERY stupid idea: open classroom, new math, pass/fail, no grading, dual admissions, multiculturalism, free /a college that followed my guidelines could grant a quicker and more practical degree/if our book’d had more graphs in c, we would have learned lot more and kept bks./multicul = all culs are =. thus learn bout all. but it became tear down west. anti cap. at stanford. tv 95
/buckley: lot of radical faculty. most prof in biz sch were lib dems, at standford? anti cap. alumni more cons than faculty and unhappy with this. no enemies on the left on c. 96
/how can you study ir without knowing their hist. /june bright to cal and ended as bkpr. cuz ann,
/see MY list of great bks under bks/send your kids to college and church to learn guilt.
/college is dreamland/those in academia appear to be doing sacred work as they work with youth./ed is cheap virtue?
/i wonder about college teaching art, photo, sculpture, dance, music, singing, theatre … [uci solicited me.]
/the people that work at colleges must be ticked that college students frit their time away, while their kids have to work.
‑ Previous to the mid‑60s, not one prison warden had a college degree. By the mid‑70s most had advanced degrees. Murders in prison tripled, gangs in prison gained more control of daily life and of the more frequent riots, and attacks on guards rose, as did their turnover.
/not till it affects you personally.
/c vs real world re housing, food, ….
/wet noodle rick of swim team at cmc.
/4 years in college studying your navel./teachers and stu should dress better to show ea other and sch more respect.
/someone asked why academic politics are so vicious. kisingher replied, ‘because the stakes are so small.’/only COLLEGE could grant an honorary degree – like making someone a Kentucky Colonel./those that can do, those that can’t teach. /graduate schools study adVANCed immaturity, adVANCed unreality./teach ethics re past present future – peers, serpico, drs, wall st., law. rel?/never heard of pri… in c.
/most texts are soc. novak
/willits 4 times to vw, was all, got out at 28 and couldn’t get a job. did sales./if foreigners are better in math, hire em.
/sheila’s prof friend said those who haven’t been in the real world were the worst.
hopefully people are real up there in the woods. how can educated people be so dumb/a report on masturbation on tv. i realized it was the lst !!!!! discussion of the subject i’d EVER seen.
/should study gap twix sch and real world./i hate MTV, but they had a discussion on masterbation. all of a sudden i realized it was the lsttttttttttttttttttttttttt discussion i’d EVER heard of the subject.
/c: study ideal world, then tear down this one as not ideal.
/some of the studying in c was great; my mind would soar.
/eur iq’s are overpaid. am iq’s always treated badly. anti iq here.
/sports sig as class is not/guy with ranch, phil, has phd wife – a great liberal and educator saving the world. her son got a b.a. from columbia l2? yrs ago and is still a bartender. so much for HER idealism./c wouldn’t be so lib if it were connected to the real world. ag/funny how the titan newslet for alumni is pablum./wrote cmc 4/97 asking to be put on list if no solicitations/ivory towers bred radicalism/think of all the kids kept out of sports because they can’t go to c. sig
/0 on media, obsess, etc./i used to play chess with a guy in d.c. he beat me EVery time, every single time./0 on office pol, bk of inside infoto be ‘educated’ means vocab, obj, read and write, & think obj, biases, news, geo,
hist?, gov?, lit?
it should mean: phy, ment, tradval, career,
/sch should be like a good trade sch, which should be like this: you study a little, then do, then study, do, study, do, on and on in a way that makes you see how vital good books are, how doing is more sig. course sch should be in comp with others and thus have to find the best books
/recent col grads think that if there are still checks in the checkbook, there still is $ in the bank./inside bk of info/l5 % of c grads can’t handle an appliance warranty? tv
/all that forcing myself to study crap in c. nightmare/sports were not sig in c. sig/ c was a crucible of idealistic theories.
/c promotes a collective approach?/if i ever grasped the scope of sacrifice and angst of studying so hard in college for 0, i’d probably cry./go to c to learn all and end up fat etc./sometimes i think i’m glad i don’t have kids in college maknig great sacrifices to study a lot of junk they will never use. least half of it’s a waste. just an exercise to separate the faster from the slower students./part of ed is exercise in ego of faculty/can pontificate as not in real world/takes lot more of folks $ to ed a stu now.
/dartmouth bible: i underlined good things. never a mh approach. it’s drummed in you as a kid. indoctrinated. finally duetoronomy had specifics. prisoner of one psychic, bible – far more often bot than read; much more gennerally owned than known. highly complex, drudge, contrary, social cleavages, narrow from limited knowledge, obstacles: too long, somber format, confused sequences, repetitiveness, drabness, can’t comprehend without …..
needs 5 of …. ll techniques, 7 interpretations.
course none of this in c/their great college educations, etc. didn’t stop my bros from screwing me./should teach ga/perspective on religion, mh, soc, lib, passages/in hist, we never heard what rel. bullshit the crusades were, nor the damage of rel./trig talked of how peers feel reg work will be big adjustment
/c was not worth the effort for me an all generally/never thot what it would be like to be a cutter – nr columbia, sjs, sc, harvard, etc./college ave and 6th at cmc. carnegie bldg, havard st – n gray. 7-8th. cutters./NEVER got a pysch look at religion, never.
/university politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small. kis
/guy 56 was making 60k/yr. then defense dept cut his job. out of work a few yrs, overqualified, ended up in hardware store for $l0/hr. wife and 3 sons. one son has mba, can’t find work, works in produce section of supermarket. tv 98. flaw: wife said they can’t sell their upscale home./c course: current affairs in perspective ! i, scandals, pol, hist, rel. thus lessons. sig/cmc yrbk – seems like an artificial world.
/300 c courses on elvis. 97
/mary baldwin college in md for smart girls.
/i was split major – poly sci & hist: I studied phil, pol phil, fp of the major powers, un, and not one of these had much on asia, africa, the arab world, the balkans,/c, sw, & never heard of female circumcision.
/70% of col grads never work in the field they studied. tv = – schwartzkoff/finals/on the job training as there is so much change. thus how long out of which jobs makes one way behind. sig? i don’t believe in scholarships for grunge/c was feel good/guy, 72, calls for room, has Phd and patches roofs. says he know others who drive cabs./ripping off gw by signing up for course to get free test./tons of concerns with kids; they go to c; you can survive better, but don’t tell them. leslie stall.
/Liberal-conservative debate at Bard College on TV. hats on, semi-shabby clothes/economist shows the biz side and approach. and graphs! never heard of it in c.
/sully said learned more lst 6 most on job than in 2 yrs of occ
/i think working in a c would be prison – as it’s not the real world/c’s are empty 35% of the time/guy sued c for not teaching him wisdom/back east they asked me where i went to c. /was csf far less than cmc? not sig/what’s never asked/leon botkin? , pres of bard, says c’s have always complained bout lack of prep by new frosh. by arrogrant and controlling c faculty. stu know more bout ibms than faculty./leon botkin? , pres of bard, says eur is not a mono.. entity. diversity in late l9th cent was getting irish and italian catholics into c.
/need GED [or comps] for a degree/just saved article from the paper this a.m. on getting degrees from distant college via correspondance etc. i like the idea. also i like comprehensive exams for this rather than traditional ed.
/why didn’t we study collect…/those that can, do; those that can’t, teach – as stakes are so small.
the myth that college years are always "happy years” /motar, grout, thinset, mud, pledge, stain, varnish, water proofing, oil based, water based, marlite?, hardibacker, wonderboard, cold water detergents, color fast, sash, flashing, turbine, composite, semi gloss, compost, ph factor, soil samples, pcv pipes, water softner, pp,
drive, rom, ram, /stanford – the harvard of the west.
/no substantial famine has occurred in a country with
– a democratic form of gov and
– a relatively free press. prof sen, trinity col, cambridge. nobel prize – econ. l0/98 [never had this in c] [thus we should export dem and cap]/ed studies wrong results; should study from end of jobs, life.
/academics can analize forever and they can tear down as they live in ivory towers. – probably lot of biz people who know what’s better but can’t get thru – tom peters/existentialism, trancendentalism, metaphysical, ontological, epitstomology
/i never ran into any town and gown stuff in c/guy passed out in shower in jackson’s frat
/computer tech, jake said he learned everything right here at work./can’t tell as well the val of one’s degree vs one who doesn’t have it but is educated/pc: all vals, ideas, lifestyles are equally valid. and pref is prejudice,
– More employable? Somewhat.
/how many with some college work at jobs in which their education isn’t used? How many with degrees do the same? No one looks into this.
/i killed myself studying in college. for what?/need GED [or comps] for a degree
/4 yrs of an ivory tower is xxxxx/in c, due to time etc. you’re there to get the best grade with the least effort: psych the prof, guess what’s on the test, tell him what he wants/hidden fact: those that can, do; those that can’t, teach
/distance learning and cheapo diploma mills should be studied, and lesser schools like in greneda/ed could be more efficient, practical, useful/sch should prep for real world. THEREFORE: tradvals, etc.
/we must grow up with a christian bias = ?
/any coincidence that some colleges get surrounded by ghettos: col, nycc, usc, yale?/jake said his bs from santa barbara didn’t help much./in a psych course, one should have to have himself analized and written up. sig/c is logical; real world isn’t/stic flics on side of histo map. with ratings. zerox/can you imagine you or i as a parent financing a kid to go off to college and fill his mind with lot of garf.
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Quality of Campus Justice Varies Widely
Rules: Most colleges surveyed use secretive panels to handle student misdeeds. Results differ.
Special to The Times
With reports of misconduct on the rise at many California colleges and universities, campus judicial systems are quietly handling thousands of cases each year ranging from plagiarism and petty larceny to physical assault and rape.
Drunken Pomona College students went joy riding in the dean’s golf cart. Chico State dorm residents were nabbed in a drug sting. A pair of UC Santa Cruz students, dubbed Bonnie and Clyde, were arrested for two armed robberies.
When students are accused of such offenses, the stakes are high because costly educations, careers and school reputations are hanging in the balance. In some cases, students hire lawyers–and one enlisted a handwriting expert–for campus disciplinary hearings.
To mete out punishments, virtually every school uses a quasi-judicial arm that convenes behind closed doors. Students and faculty who have little legal training serve as investigators, prosecutors and judges. They usually operate independent of police and courts, and seldom refer cases for criminal action.
The maximum penalty imposed by campus courts is expulsion. But records and interviews show that the quality of justice and severity of sanctions vary from case to case and place to place, raising what critics say are fundamental questions of fairness.
At some schools, throwing a punch can result in as little as counseling, while at UC Riverside a student is suspended one quarter for each blow. Penalties for date rape can be as severe as expulsion or as lenient as writing a reflective essay.
Additionally, these secretive systems deprive students and parents of information about misconduct, and sometimes crime, on campus. Of 15 public and private schools surveyed for The Times, only UC Davis and USC publicly report details of misconduct hearings, although both withhold students’ names. Only a handful routinely release statistics, and two keep none at all.
University administrators acknowledge that their judicial systems are not perfect, but they say they provide a swift means of maintaining order, ethical standards and codes of conduct. They also say the law requires them to protect the privacy of victims and perpetrators whose futures might be harmed by publicity.
“A lot of them are good students, and they panicked and made a bad decision at a hard time in their life,” said Nancy Morrison, assistant to the dean of students at Stanford University.
The federal Crime Awareness and Campus Security Act of 1990 requires campus security departments to compile and publish statistics on crime, without differentiating between students and nonstudents. There is no similar requirement for schools to reveal the extent and type of student misconduct handled internally.
As part of a six-month examination of campus judicial systems, reporters from the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism obtained previously unpublished statistics and interviewed officials. The survey found:
* Eight of 13 schools that tally misconduct cases report an increase in recent years, which officials say is part of a long-term trend.
* The number of cases at each school ranges from about a dozen to more than a thousand per year, and the vast majority of students are found culpable and disciplined.
* Cheating and alcohol or drug use were the most common offenses, and each has increased recently at half of the eight schools that broke down violations.
* Student conduct boards resolved almost 300 cases of physical assaults and threats of violence last year. In addition, they dealt with at least 16 complaints of violent sexual assault, with eight reported by UC Berkeley.
There is often a gap between the number of sexual assaults reported to campus women’s centers and the number appearing in official university crime or misconduct statistics. At UC Irvine, for instance, no rapes were reported to law enforcement in the 1998-99 school year, but the women’s support center tabulated 15.
Noting that rape is an underreported crime, university officials say student victims often are reluctant to go through the pain and stress of pursuing either a misconduct case or a criminal prosecution.
“There is no doubt that colleges are underreporting crimes, especially rape,” said J. Lance Gilmer, director of the student conduct office at UC Riverside. He said he knows of half a dozen alleged rape cases last year that were not handled by his office and did not show up in campus crime statistics.
Since the founding of America’s first colleges, campuses generally have considered misconduct an in-house affair to be quietly resolved to protect the integrity of the institutions and the privacy of students. But, across the nation, campus courts recently have come under fire for allegedly failing to protect the very people they are designed to safeguard.
A case involving the alleged rape of a female student by two football players was heard by the Virginia Tech University student conduct office several years ago. After the university reversed a one-year suspension of one player, the woman sued–and the case is now before the U.S. Supreme Court.
“It was only when these bodies started dealing with more serious crimes that people became interested,” said Mark Goodman of the Student Press Law Center in Virginia, a nonprofit group that advocates increased public disclosure of student judicial proceedings.
Little Training for School Investigators
Chico State freshman Mike Clausen was sleeping in his dorm on the morning of Nov. 14, 1996, when campus police banged on his door and ordered him to open up. Clausen was led away in handcuffs as television cameras rolled.
He was trapped in a drug sting orchestrated by an undercover campus police officer who had posed as a student. The officer had attended classes, bought liquor for students and had a “social relationship” with a female student. Citing the officer’s questionable behavior, the district attorney refused to prosecute Clausen and nine other students in connection with selling marijuana.
However, Chico State relied on the same flawed investigation in seeking to bar Clausen from the university for several years. He hired a lawyer and, after negotiations, accepted a one-semester suspension. “If we took it to a [campus] judicial hearing . . . basically you’re left standing there defending yourself,” said Clausen, now a senior. “It’s like David and Goliath.”
This case reflects a trend among universities. Many campus officials report an increase in student misbehavior that could rise to criminal conduct. At Chico, drug offenses steadily increased from 69 in 1995-96 to 114 last year. At UC Santa Cruz, a senior and his freshman girlfriend were expelled for robbing two local stores for “thrills”–and a judge sentenced them to prison in March.
At UC Riverside, the student judicial office has investigated gun possession, with some cases involving members of fraternities and Southern California street gangs.
“Like everyone, I used to view colleges as safe havens,” said Gilmer, the school’s student conduct chief. “I never thought about people . . . raping, assaulting or fighting. I never thought that existed here. The myth I had been living under was just that. A myth.”
Most schools do not routinely refer potentially criminal offenses by students to local police for investigation. Instead, they inform crime victims that they can press criminal charges if they wish.
“They can pursue it [an allegation] through our system,” said Sandra Rhoten, associate dean of students at Cal State Fullerton. “They [also] can pursue it through the criminal system.”
The investigation of serious misconduct, even rape, is often left to students and school officials who have little training, time and resources. They do their best: One official plays good cop-bad cop when interviewing students. To maintain the element of surprise, student investigators at another school summon fellow students for interviews without telling them whether they are witnesses or suspects.
Yet investigating some misconduct requires help from law enforcement. Two years ago, a UC Irvine freshman told campus police that a classmate had bullied him in attempts to extort money. Collaborating with student conduct officer Kelly Willis, campus police outfitted the victim with a tape recorder. After the shakedown was captured on tape, the threatening student was expelled.
Panels sometimes try to resolve serious cases that are difficult to sort out.
At Pomona College, the judicial affairs committee addressed a 1997 acquaintance rape complaint, based on the personal accounts of the alleged assailant and victim. The committee could not reach a decision on the man’s guilt, splitting 4-4 along gender lines. “It was very junior high-esque,” said Simon Morfit, a Pomona senior and friend of the plaintiff. “She was really distressed.”
Panels Usually Contain Students and Faculty
Some students jokingly call these hearings kangaroo courts. Rumor, mystery and some fear surround them. At Caltech in Pasadena, the Board of Control hears cases into the wee hours, which board members say is for convenience but which some students find intimidating.
Like criminal and civil cases, most student misconduct gets resolved through negotiation before it reaches trial. But other incidents, especially when the allegation is contested, go to a hearing. Of the schools surveyed, only Stanford, Pomona, Caltech and Pepperdine–private institutions–hold hearings on the majority of cases.
Typically, students and faculty serve on the judicial panels, although Pomona and Caltech have all-student boards. At some schools, the panel’s decisions are reviewed by a dean or another official.
A local lawyer serves as a judge at Chico State, but all except one of the 325 misconduct cases last year were resolved informally by student affairs coordinator Lizanne Leach. “Initially, I make a decision about a sanction,” she said. “If the student accepts that, then we’re finished with it.”
Members of the school panels receive little training in how to assess evidence. Most panels only study the student conduct code. At Pomona, the training consists of a day’s lecture by an attorney about using the “Socratic method” to seek truth.
“There are a lot of untrained people,” said mathematics professor Ami Radunskaya, who recently served as the nonvoting chairman of Pomona’s Student Affairs Committee. “We are not judges and don’t have a law degree.”
The campus hearings apply the same standard of proof used in civil courts: the preponderance of evidence. But judicial boards do not let lawyers argue on behalf of the students.
Although attorneys sometimes are allowed to attend hearings as advisors, their presence can hurt rather than help.
“A stupid move,” said former Stanford judicial panelist Ethan Kurzweil, referring to a student who brought his attorney yet was found guilty of cheating. “He presented a legal defense. . . . The panel was offended by it.”
Campus newspapers have long complained about lack of access to disciplinary hearings.
For this article, reporters requested access to judicial hearings at each campus. The only school to consent was Pepperdine University in Malibu, but the school would open a hearing only for relatively minor dormitory cases that ranged from excessive noise and drunkenness to being partially naked with a member of the opposite sex.
Officials at most schools refuse to even discuss cases, citing the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act. “The federal law does not want us to violate student rights to confidentiality, even to parents, attorneys or any faculty member,” said Douglas L. Zuidema, student conduct office manager at UC Berkeley.
Critics contend that schools hide behind a veil of secrecy to protect their own interests, including the institution’s reputation. “This doesn’t have as much to do with the privacy as it does with the fear that they will lose control of the [disciplinary] system if the public knows what’s going on,” said Goodman of the Student Press Law Center.
It’s not only the public that can be deprived of information. At Chico State, a male student slapped Rhiannon Clow, 23, in an art classroom in February.
A school official escorted her to the campus police to file a complaint, but the matter was handled administratively.
Clow, however, said she was not invited to the meeting at which her complaint was resolved. And she was dismayed when her attacker was readmitted to class within a week.
When she asked what punishment he received, she said, officials told her that was private but assured her there was no danger: The male student could not be near her without an instructor present.
“If I see him, it makes me feel uncomfortable,” Clow said. “I have class with him at night as well. I don’t feel they did as much as they should.”
Professor Vernon Patrick, chairman of the art department, said the school imposed “stringent conditions” to protect her but also had a duty to guard the assailant’s privacy and well-being. “We were actually concerned about him,” he said.
Punishment Can Vary Dramatically
Complicated cases routinely cross the desk of Jeanne Wilson, director of student judicial affairs at UC Davis. But she is still haunted by an acquaintance rape case several years ago.
A female student was attacked by her live-in boyfriend during an argument. She went to Wilson seeking help, but refused to bring the case before a hearing or to the police. Instead, she only wanted her boyfriend to get counseling. Wilson felt that the victim’s request tied her hands.
During a meeting with Wilson, the boyfriend admitted the rape and agreed to undergo “anger management” classes and counseling, and write a reflective essay. And he would be expelled if he had additional disciplinary offenses.
Wilson said she wonders whether she did the right thing. “I’m not saying [the outcome] is perfect,” she said. “But it may actually have been the only reasonable result for this extremely difficult case.”
In a similar case at UC Berkeley, a male student raped his ex-girlfriend in 1996 and received no punishment; the victim only wanted him checked for AIDS. But at UC Riverside, a male student was suspended for the 1998 school year for attacking his girlfriend.
UC campuses all have similar conduct codes. But, like private schools, each campus determines its own procedures and sanctions.
“A lot of policies in the university system are left up to individual campuses,” said David Birnbaum, the university counsel. The campuses “often are different in their physical settings”–some urban, others suburban.
Cheating can be punished by expulsion or almost nothing at all. Caltech, ranked No. 1 academically by U.S. News & World Report this past year, docks students points for questions on which they cheated.
At UCLA this year, a graduate student received a one-semester suspension for plagiarism. The student also was ordered to rewrite the paper or write a paper about plagiarism, and perform 300 hours of community service.
The philosophical underpinning of these panels is based as much on educational values and personal growth as exacting justice and a pound of flesh.
“We try to avoid the word ‘punishment,’ though sometimes a decision does resemble punishment,” said Caltech Dean Jean-Paul Revel. “The idea is not to rap the student’s knuckles.”
The emphasis on education, critics say, can come at the expense of fairness.
“While [education] is important, the emphasis should be on due process,” said S. Daniel Carter, vice president of Security on Campus, a nonprofit Pennsylvania watchdog group created by the parents of a female student killed at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pa., in the mid-1980s.
Last year Pomona’s campus court meted out one punishment widely seen as poetic justice. The Phi Delta fraternity had forced pledges to drink alcohol and set up a point system for sexual conquests and photos taken of female students in lewd positions. The penalty: The fraternity was suspended for a year and could be reinstated only if females were allowed to join. It disbanded.
Two other hazing cases at Pomona, both involving the soccer team, had startlingly different outcomes. In the first, the only person punished was a freshman who had to be rushed to the hospital for alcohol poisoning. He was barred from all events at which alcohol was served.
In the second, eight players were punished for forcing rookies to down shots of liquor, shave their heads and dress in diapers. The veteran players were put on probation and required to meet with substance abuse counselors and to plan two alcohol workshops.
“The problem with the system is that there are discrepancies in the sanctions,” said Andrew Knuckle, a senior and panelist at Pomona. “We can handle cases like cheating, but for more serious cases . . . we need more direction.”
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Cases Handled by Student Conduct Offices
Misconduct reports at many California colleges and universities have risen in recent years, according to a survey for The Times. Statistics for the 1998-99 school year, below, show that the number of cases handled by campus judicial systems varies widely. It does not necessarily follow that schools with the most cases have the most misbehavior. The number is influenced by various factors, including school size, standards of conduct, the school’s vigilance and reporting methods. For example, alcohol and drug violations at schools such as Stanford and Caltech often are handled and tallied by residential offices separate from campus judicial systems. Here are some categories of violations
* * *
School Caltech*
Enrollment: 901
Cases: 24
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 27
Cheating: 21
Alcohol violations: 0
Drug violations: 0
Violent sexual assaults: 0
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 0
* * *
Chico State
Enrollment: 14,983
Cases: 325
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 22
Cheating: 29
Alcohol violations: 103
Drug violations: 114
Violent sexual assaults: 0
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 25
* * *
Cal State Fullerton
Enrollment: 25,613
Cases: na
Number of cases per 1,000 students: na
Cheating: na
Alcohol violations: na
Drug violations: na
Violent sexual assaults: na
Physical assaults/threats of violence: na
* * *
Pepperdine*
Enrollment: 3,035
Cases: 241
Number of cases per 1,000 students:
Cheating: 79
Alcohol violations: 1
Drug violations:
Violent sexual assaults: na
Physical assaults/threats of violence: na
* * *
Pomona College*
Enrollment: 1,453
Cases: 15
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 10
Cheating:na
Alcohol violations: 6
Drug violations: 0
Violent sexual assaults: 2
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 0
* * *
Stanford
Enrollment: 14,144
Cases: 27
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 2
Cheating: 27
Alcohol violations: 0
Drug violations: 0
Violent sexual assaults: 0
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 0 *
UC Berkeley
Enrollment: 31,011
Cases: 496
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 16
Cheating: 148
Alcohol violations: 72
Drug violations: 15
Violent sexual assaults: 8
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 126
* * *
UC Davis
Enrollment: 24,866
Cases: 1,037
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 42
Cheating: 421
Alcohol violations: 154
Drug violations: 33
Violent sexual assaults: na
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 41
* * *
UC Irvine+
Enrollment: 16,654
Cases: 200
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 12
Cheating: 68
Alcohol violations: 21
Drug violations: 14
Violent sexual assaults: 1
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 5
* * *
UCLA
Enrollment: 30,500
Cases: na
Number of cases per 1,000 students: na
Cheating: na
Alcohol violations: na
Drug violations: na
Violent sexual assaults: na
Physical assaults/threats of violence: na *
UC Riverside
Enrollment: 10,602
Cases: 269
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 25
Cheating: 131
Alcohol violations: 8
Drug violations: 10
Violent sexual assaults: 0
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 36
* * *
UC San Diego
Enrollment: 19,370
Cases: 1,854
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 96
Cheating: 73
Alcohol violations: 762
Drug violations: 48
Violent sexual assaults: na
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 53
* * *
UC Santa Barbara
Enrollment: 19,363
Cases: 87
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 5
Cheating: 13
Alcohol violations: 0
Drug violations: 0
Violent sexual assaults: 0
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 1
* * *
UC Santa Cruz
Enrollment: 10,981
Cases: 580
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 53
Cheating: 11
Alcohol violations: 166
Drug violations: 16
Violent sexual assaults: 2
Physical assaults/threats of violence: 11
* * *
USC
Enrollment: 25,000
Cases: 753
Number of cases per 1,000 students: 30
Cheating: 145
Alcohol violations: 137
Drug violations: 37
Violent sexual assaults: 4
Physical assaults/threats of violence: na
* * *
Notes: UCLA and Cal State Fullerton officials say they keep no statistics and declined to compile them; “na” means data not available.
* Undergraduate only.
Includes violations at dorms.
+ 1997-98
Source: Individual schools
Compiled by: Reporters at UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism
* * *
This article was reported and written by Chris Jenkins, Abbi Kaplan, Sam Kennedy and Marian Liu for a UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism course taught by Times projects editor Tim Reiterman.
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/how can you grad from c like I did and not know what you want, take years to settle down, finally close in on it via job clinic,
/college = seminary.
/who ever checked my ‘transcript’ from college. Probably no one. So what was all that work for
/never questioned religion, but did everything else.
/imagine graduating from college and not being able to use a computer
/do college stu riot etc more than non c stus?
/The girls college next to mine had such with robes. Some nites, girls would stand motionless on the empty pedestals with sheets fooling people
/got to use complicated titles for courses and major to make em sound sig
/Kelly got to grad, yet hadn’t finished. Ty
/a government, religious, military college [the worst of all worlds] copies to mark s and marvalee. Ed to latter too.
/ the near east, the middle east, the far east. great to search maps of those, find em, and SAVE em. Reminds me of the thrills in college, I’d forgotten
/skip? : 3 yrs of college and working in a pizza place. Me
/wasting time in prison of c – similar somehow to wasting it in the mil?
/cooped up all winter, horns of spring, have to let off steam. But I don’t think the w.c. does. Sig?
/Daniel Patrick Moynihan said that academic politics are unusually bitter because the stakes are so small.
“University politics are vicious precisely
because the stakes are so small.” – Henry Kissinger. …
/why did titan hall mean so much? Stump, barn dance, most fun in c I had, took 3 units to stay on. Would have been lost. Had only one shower. 4 rms upstairs. Where did we study? Paul strange, chuck prince, boggie and the other b-ball player, mick beck, tom the looker, frank swigheimer, don.
/I think I graduated in top 3rd of my hi sch glass, which of course is nothing. 1st year of college at a good men’s school. Constant studying for a C average, next year big drop down to local junior college, constant studying, grades came up, but not high enough for cal-berkeley. Went to san jose state. Got into student gov, goofed off, grades dropped lst semester, back to constant studying, but grades didn’t come up enough, flunked out. Took summer courses, but was burned out. was out a year or less, got into a local state college. [had more the most fun there]. constant studying but was borderline case. Went to one hard prof. I had for 2 courses. said I only needed one B to graduate. He gave me two. [did he bend the rules?] so I just barely graduated with a 2.009 average. Off to NY. Much later I took the graduate records exam, foreign service exam and did poorly. Might have been the same with the fsii? – for federal civil service. Not sure if I took the law sch admissions test. Later applied to grad school for social work. didn’t get in. in looking back, this was lucky.
One of my bosses was not impressed with my work, asked how I did in college.
Couldn’t keep up in p.c. grad as academic nigger. Dirty little secret – limited ability. Vs what I felt I had. Always studied better 1 to 1. nightmare, yet I thot I had talent. Was sure I could compensate with hard work. not really so. pathetic.
/on campus is it biz admin vs pol sci, journ…, hist, publishing,
/hist was my minor and never told of pro and cons of econ sys.: only taught: usury, mercantilism, trade, cap, com, no soc,
/c is a big talk show. Come of c terribly verbose. Talk-a-holics. Jargonauts, polysybolics, diarrhea of the mouths
/because the stakes are so small:
Cuckoo in Carolina
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
The ruckus being raised by conservative Christians over the University of North Carolina’s decision to ask incoming students to read a book about the Koran exhibits such profound lack of understanding of what America is about. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/28/opinion/28FRIE.html?todaysheadlines
/parents to got such lengths to get their kid an ed etc. and look what it didn’t do in our fam. glad I didn’t have a kid and have to face that: – he should get an ed, while it didn’t do anything for me.
/useless college ed – http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=009W1v
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=useless+college+education
/trying to write term papers in hi sch – miserable: ft notes, ip sic,
/probably a lot wrong with trying to write papers in c. I don’t remember many, just a few. did I do an essay to get out of one or was that to get out of a test? I never got that ip sic stuff. can’t remember listing many footnotes.
/the more I think of it – people’s minds work in diff ways. Thus formal ed hits and misses.
/the passion of that prof don? Miller? On am. hist. and putting on weight.
/swimming in c – such a biz, same with other minor sports? Why have em?
/discouraging to see fast learners cram before test, pass, and forget it, whereas I’d have to plod along.
/how could I minor in hist and never hear of the art of war.
/itt – top teach sch in India – on 60 min l/l2/ http://www.iitb.ernet.in ? as more campuses around India with that name. great report. Their gov subsidizes it and most of their grads end up here. [cause they don’t follow the free market] tech cos should be subsidizing those schs
/only c [uci] could send a mobile clinic for seniors to the moulton plaza [when they have every clinic in the world here]
/wonder if when in c I wouldn’t have been better off buying and fixing homes on the side. Wow /seems like back east I’d be in some job or something and people’d ask me where I went to college. I look back on that as a way of questioning how bright I was./iit doesn’t go for well rounded ed, but has stus run the sch. That develops their entrepreneur skills. Their dorms are Spartan.
/the whole business of sports in college is a joke.
/did c help tj? Hutch? Phil?,
/strange that if c didn’t help me, why do I think more of c grads than non and more of grads of grad sch than me
/ed vs good ed vs bad vs narrow vs biased vs rel vs radical
/should start with biz etc, let them decide what’s needed and control the subsidies, books, profs, training on job,
/when I was out that yr? I couldn’t wait till college kids came home.
/57-8 – cg and eur
/58-9 – cmc
/59-60 – sac
/60-6l – sjs had to stay out a yr? summer courses but burned out. then what? Buffums? [couldn’t wait for c kids to get home], sch bus, pizza,
csf for fall and grad mid term? – 63. Then took 3 units to stay in dorm while working at vw. Some call to woman at c bout graduating one period instead of another or was it going thru the ceremony.
Later tests I blew: fsi, grad records exam, fsee [where I saw a jewish guy], law sch admin test?
/liberal arts is not about art
/all those who work, save, sacrifice so they or someone can go to college. just thot – what about that at the grad level
/stupidity of grading on the curve.
/compare the boola of c with cg
‘Boola Boola’: Yale’s fight song marks 100th anniversary
By Diane Scarponi, Associated Press writer
When Yale’s football team was getting ready to play Harvard in 1900, a student put together a simple, fun-to-sing song to rouse the crowd at the Yale Bowl in New Haven, Conn.
A hundred years later, the song’s refrain, “Boola Boola,” is synonymous with old-time college football and steeped in mystery, as befits the Ivy League of yore.
The recent discovery of documents from the song’s author is helping put some of the mystery to rest.
Contrary to popular myth, “boola” doesn’t mean anything in Hawaiian, and the song wasn’t written by Cole Porter. The author was 1901 Yale graduate Allan M. Hirsh, who adapted the song from an 1898 song called “La Hoola Boola.”
His family recently found a box of memorabilia under the attic insulation in the old Hirsh family home in New Jersey, said his grandson, Philip Hirsh. In it was a letter from 1930 that should put to rest the origins of the song and the football rallying cry of “boola boola.”
“We do not know what it means,” Hirsh wrote, “except that it was euphonious and easy to sing and to our young ears sounded good.”
“That was essence of my grandfather,” said Philip Hirsh, a 1960 Yale graduate and a psychiatrist in Lynchburg, Va. “If sounded good and felt good, let’s do it.”
The elder Hirsh wrote that he and friends put together the song and they taught it to some others. The song also was posted on a tree near the Yale Bowl so that spectators on their way to the game could learn the words.
Yale beat Harvard 28-0 on that day — Nov. 24, 1900 — and fans ran on to the field after the game, singing the song.
Hirsh published the song the next year, with permission for the adaptation from the publisher of “La Hoola Boola,” by Bob Cole and Billy Johnson, said Fred Shapiro, a Yale librarian who is editing “The Yale Dictionary of Quotations.”
Shapiro said the etymology of “boola” is unknown.
“I would conjecture that it originated because Cole and Johnson wanted a word that rhymed with ‘hoola’ and it has no other meaning beyond that,” Shapiro said.
One campus legend is that “boola” means “good” or “exultation” in Hawaiian. Not true, said Kalena Silva, the director of the College of Hawaiian Language at the University of Hawaii at Hilo.
“There aren’t any ‘b’ sounds in the Hawaiian language,” Silva said. “Sometimes, with these collegiate fight songs, I think they just made up words.”
The catchy tune has been the basis for other college fight songs, notably the “Boomer Sooner” song of the University of Oklahoma.
Cole Porter, while not the author of “Boola Boola,” did write two other Yale fight songs, “Bull-Dog” and “Bingo, That’s the Lingo.” Porter graduated from Yale in 1913.
The Yale Precision Marching Band plans to play “Boola Boola” Saturday at the football team’s annual game against Harvard, said Betsy Golden, the band’s drum major.
The song is not as popular as the Yale anthem “Bright College Years,” which is sung at graduation to the waving of white handkerchiefs, Golden said.
She said that both songs, with their quaint melodies, continue to have appeal.
“I think these songs conjure up a kind of Old Blue. People like to be part of that tradition,” Golden said.
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/that and the drinking song from the student prince
/does the free market operate in ed? re best bks, skills needed, profs, students,
/I don’t think lil’s been to c. comm… is slower, round about
/every campus should have a traditional, classical area with a statue of the thinker
/series biography of am by Donald l miller should be required viewing for those who have to take those courses. Exactly what I thot if in c.
/legal college degree equivalency
/flunking out was probably a joke too, but who cares.
Colleges Tell Students the Overseas Party’s Over
By GREG WINTER
The more popular study abroad has become, the more colleges have also begun to worry about the global misadventures of their students.
/m Shapiro said csu takes in anyone. Pub sch kids are 0. one got thru and grad without being able to read.
————— – – –
Where Credit Is Due
First The Post revealed that football players in some of America’s finest universities were receiving academic credit for participating in their sport, in courses taught by head coaches. Then NBC, in a recent halftime piece aired during the Notre Dame-Michigan football game (and in which I was quoted), expressed indignation and called the practice fraud and cheating. Two athletic directors were shown on the telecast defending the practice of credit for athletics participation, but they were nothing more than sacrificial lambs. Sports columnists across the country are expressing their outrage about intercollegiate athletics gone wild again.
/beautiful campi and mangy students
Those Poor College Conservatives
BOSTON — I like the old maxim that academic politics are so vicious because the stakes are so small. How else to explain the intramural conflicts that erupt over such searing campus issues as tenure and parking?
/sent to m Shapiro. Had sent ed
An Academic Question
By PAUL KRUGMAN
There are so few Republican university professors because the party tends to favor revelation over research.
/bias: college should
/lst show the diff biases, schs of thot, ment !!!!.
/2 teach what have been over the ages, years the generally accepted facts with some mention of various schools of thot. What about the prof’s opinion? He should not teach a subject if he disagrees with the main body of it. Evolution. Anyone should be able to speak at a sch and set up a booth? Mil, pot, sex,
College Libraries Set Aside Books in a Digital Age
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL
Books are being cleared away to make room for digital learning laboratories, a phenomenon that is transforming research and study on campuses around the country. 5/05
The College Dropout Boom
Poor and working-class students have been falling behind; for them, not having a degree remains the norm. Includes audio slide shows and forums for readers’ responses.
/guys said of gal ‘bad wheels’
/the lowe inst of pol economy in bologna italu
ROBERT J. LOWE ’62 Chairman & CEO Lowe Enterprises, Inc. … President CMC Alumni
Association. His co has bad site, but 0 on him on net. Over the past 32 years, Lowe Enterprises, which I founded, has developed, acquired or managed more than $6 billion of real estate assets nationwide. Our privately owned
firm currently employs over 7,000 people, with a management team of approximately 250 men
and women.
/I don’t give to any college as: all of c needs change, my degree didn’t help, my will goes to better causes, ltc?
my degree was too hard to get, bitter – [weak]. To cmc only one yr.
Just What the Professor Ordered
By IAN AYRES
Why should students pay $150 for one textbook?
/animal hse on. Reminds me of good times in c, but which? Not many at cmc – why?, nor sac, sjs fits but why?, couldn’t wait for c kids to come home when out for a yr at buffims, and sch bus?. csf – barn dance, toga party. Presents at ucla
Literacy Falls for Graduates From College, Testing Finds
By SAM DILLON
The average American college graduate’s literacy in English declined significantly over the past decade, the test showed. L2/05
Proof of Learning at College
Colleges and universities should join in the hunt for acceptable ways to measure student progress.
How the Liberal Arts Got That Way
By MATTHEW PEARL
Lawrence Summers’s fall as president of Harvard started 140 years ago.
Betraying Student Athletes
“Prep schools” scams, where athletes earn bogus grades, cry out for action from the N.C.A.A. and from the state legislatures and education departments.
Harvard-Bound? Chin Up
By DAVID BROOKS
A list of things you can do to get a great education, no matter what college you attend.
http://alumni.yale.edu/classes/yc1976/Boola.htm
/On the Road, You and Me
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Maybe you should add Ndjamena, Chad, to the list of the best places in the world to get an education. 3/06
/should have been reading the NY times all thru c. wow
Brand U.
By STEPHEN BUDIANSKY
The way universities prostitute themselves to keep up a healthy supply of tuition-paying students is getting pretty hard to satire.
At Decision Time, Colleges Lay On Charm
By ALAN FINDER
As students apply to more colleges, admissions deans must recruit the undecided more aggressively to be sure of filling their incoming classes.
Giving to Rich U.
By RANDY COHEN
Payback; playback.
A Chilling FBI Fishing Expedition
In an earlier life I spent 20 years as an investigative reporter, getting subpoenaed and sued in the United States, and censored and physically harassed in other parts of the globe. But when I switched careers to academia, I thought such scrapes would come to an end. I was wrong.
(By Mark Feldstein, The Washington Post) 5?/06
Monitoring Profit-Making Colleges
New York’s State Board of Regents vote to extend state scrutiny to many aspects of commercial colleges comes not a moment too soon. 5/06
Can’t Complete High School? Go Right Along to College
By KAREN W. ARENSON
A growing number of college students lack high school diplomas, fueling a debate over whether they should be there.
/if you’re catholic you read hist one way, if another, then another sig
Chinese Medicine for American Schools
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
That many young Chinese in cities like Shanghai or Beijing get a better education than Americans do is a reality that should stir us to seek lessons from China.
/no one I know ever wonders if their b.a. was useless
At Colleges, Women Are Leaving Men in the Dust
By TAMAR LEWIN
A quarter-century after women became the majority on campuses, men are trailing in more than just enrollment. #
/writing papers was probably awful, if it involved footnotes, ibid, or whatever those were.
“It’s all about the money — any administrator will tell you that. It’s not for the excitement of college football. Let’s not kid ourselves.”
RICH RODRIGUEZ, head football coach at West Virginia, on the rise in appearance fees for low-level teams against top opponents.
/college kids are pent up and so need to rf, party, sports, demo? now and then
Eager but Unready
By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO 9/06
Community colleges are being deluged with hundreds of thousands of students unprepared for college-level work.
A Little Learning Is an Expensive Thing
By WILLIAM M. CHACE
Hail to alma mater! We will pay thy bills forever.
/titan mag – http://www.titanmag.com/news/index.html – only fair?
/Show Them the Money
By MICHAEL WOLFF
The Ivies may not be out of your child’s reach if you shell out enough, a Wall Street Journal reporter shows.
/I wonder which are the most efficient colleges. I’d think they would give credit for experiences and comprehensive tests.
Conversely there must be stats on ba’s that mean little.
Unfair Advancement By RODNEY LABRECQUEColleges and universities should return Advanced Placement courses to their original purpose, which was not college admission, but as the name says, advanced placement.
57-8 – guard and eur.
My miserable college career:
58-9: cmc as didn’t get into cal. Real hard time. Guarded that summer and sum sch.
59-60: sac, bars on windows,
60-6l: sjs, ruined folks vacation, flunk, sum sch, burned out.
6l-62: Out for one semester?: sch bus, pizza,
…………… csf spring of 62?
Fall of 62 – titan hall,
Spring of 63 – took one course in spring to stay on as would have been lost, while at Vw job. Applied to pc. Grad in 63? great luck of afs.
/cmc – too hard like the rest of c. didn’t do that much for me. N gray the only bright spot?
/never took on religion. Wow.
/god and man at yale : The Superstitions of Academic Freedom. wfb criticized Yale and its faculty for forcing liberal ideology on its students. He criticized individual professors by name in the book for their stomping out of students’ religious beliefs through their teaching. Buckley claimed in the book, also, that Yale was denying its students any sense of individualism by forcing them to embrace this new idea of liberalism.
God and Man at Yale received mixed reviews when it was first published. Many underestimated the ultimate impact that the book and Buckley would have on American society, thinking that it would quickly fade into the background. Quite the opposite happened
College Aid Cutbacks
The same bachelor’s degree will cost a student borrower far more than a student who can afford to pay. That’s not a path to greater equality.
College Sports Get a Warning
Athletic departments have more influence on university affairs than they should.
Public Colleges as ‘Engines of Inequality´
The average institutional grant to students from high-income families is actually larger than the average grant to low- or middle-income families.
Don’t waste charity By Martin Kimel There are better places for donations than colleges that have billions in endowments.
/imagine: profs can get their stus to write on notebks their compositions. FAR easier to read, grade, pick up spelling and usage errors. Incredible diff.
/I should be glad I didn’t get into cal. Wow
/history minor and never had a bit on slavery throughout hist – wikipedia
/ Vying for Top 10 in Academic Rank By TAMAR LEWIN A number of leading public universities are drawing increasingly impressive and affluent students.
Top Grades, Without the Classes
The unethical behavior often associated with big-time college sports can easily seep outward, undermining academic standards and corrupting behavior in the university as a whole.
The Devoted Student l2/06 By MARK C. TAYLOR The task of thinking and teaching, especially in an age of emergent fundamentalisms, is to cultivate a faith in doubt that calls into question every certainty.
/c was the biggest waste, sacrifice, embittering?, exp. Next to rel, mil, career, personal life,
/I got an A in Phallus 101 By Charlotte Allen The list of the 12 most bizarre college courses in the U.S. includes offerings such as ‘The Phallus’ and ‘Queer Musicology.’
/ As College Grows, a City Is Asking, ‘Who Will Pay?’ By CAROLYN MARSHALL
A deep rift has developed between Santa Cruz, Calif., and its University of California campus with accusations of bad faith, voter referendums and nearly a dozen lawsuits.
/in hist and pol sci we didn’t have adam smith
/how to ed tj and steve brooks, others,
/What a College Education Buys By CHRISTOPHER CALDWELL Not qualifications. Which may be just fine.
Profiteering Colleges Congress must do more to ensure that scarce federal aid dollars are legitimately spent and not gobbled up by for-profit diploma mills that bilk the government and students alike.
/ http://www.sac.edu/homex.asp
/tragedy at va tech. let from cmc pres to smit. Ran off at the mouth forever with hardly any specifics.
/The Killer in the Lecture Hall By BARBARA OAKLEY Our universities are able to deal with evil as a literary subject but not as a fact of life.
/‘Top Chef’ Dreams Crushed by Student Loan Debt By KIM SEVERSON For would-be top chefs, there are few jobs that pay enough for them to retire their student loans.
/I don’t remember doing many term? Papers with footnotes: ibid, i? sic?
/Economic Life After College A college degree does not ensure a bigger share of the economic pie for many graduates. 6/07 nyt
/Where the Arts Were Too Liberal By MICHAEL GOLDFARB This is an obituary for a great American institution. After 155 years, Antioch College is closing.
/scot knew things about law that grx didn’t.
/The No. 1 reason to rank colleges By Michael Skube Students and their parents have much to consider when picking a school. Starting with a few facts in U.S. News can’t hurt.
/I think I lived on l65/mo at sjs. Not sure. When I lst got there. lst morning I woke up. Same with lw
/Certain Degrees Now Cost More at Universities By JONATHAN D. GLATER Public university officials admit they are queasy about a practice that appears to value one discipline over another.
/I remember thinking tests should be cumulative, not finals.
/people wore car coats at sjs
/up at sjs I moved in with dick and mac. Opened the front drapes, shade? & washed window to get light in.
Harvard’s Aid to Reach High in Middle Class By SARA RIMER and ALAN FINDER
Expanding on efforts to help low-income students, Harvard on Monday announced aid increases for students from middle-class and upper-middle-class families.
/Too Costly for Even the Well-to-Do Governors and legislators ought to be ashamed if their flagship public universities charge more than a high-priced private school like Harvard.
/ Gold in the Ivory Tower By HERBERT A. ALLEN There’s a particularly corrosive shift that’s taking place in the growing gap between super-wealthy colleges and universities — and the rest of the academic world. It’s on class4
/ Harvard’s Aid to Middle Class Pressures Rivals By JONATHAN D. GLATER
Officials say expanded financial aid at Harvard may push other colleges to shift aid away from low-income students.
/0 on how to mng $.
/c educated me. I never showed a bit of gratitude
/people should get honorary degrees based on their expertise in a certain field.
/girls testing higher than boys when applying to c, but dummies think it should be balanced. Stupid, so better gals are getting kept out of some c while lesser guys are being admitted. Only c could do that. same with race.
Op-Ed: Ivy-League Letdown Will financial aid for wealthier students edge out poorer ones? 
/in sch we never were made to practice even basic $ mng.
/ Universities Rush to Set Up Outposts Abroad By TAMAR LEWIN The American system of higher education, long the envy of the world, is starting to become an important export.
In Oil-Rich Mideast, Shades of the Ivy League
By TAMAR LEWIN
Education City, the largest enclave of American schools overseas, has become the elite of Qatari education.
/my b.s. didn’t prep me for the jobs I didn’t get and why, nor to play to my strengths
/Wikipedia is doing a lot for me quicker than what aids I could find in c. sig put this on pron?
/ chai ling elfin-like match stick figure that little tyke started http://www.jenzabar.com
/college is suspended animation, ivory tower,
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I have written several articles and two books making similiar arguments. The books were written to parents and students and the articles to the general public and academics. Your statement here makes the argument in a succinct and clever way. I love it. Congratulations! If the politicians stopped subsidizing the craziness and parents would get a clue the huge damage to the public interest from undergraduate education in this country would be minimized. Let’s form an Organization to End College Confusion or something like that.
/amazing how in jordan and other places c grads have been educated for jobs that don’t exist, and have status rules that down’t allow taking lesser jobs. Said ‘education for employment’ a program that ….
/john silber of boston u?
Virtual Campus
Visit College Campuses
/hd of Hudson int. said gotta get degree. It’s a union card. Lucky to get 2 good profs in the whole 4 yrs. do all to get good courses, profs, bks, most are leftist
/I was disappointed in my b.a. I imagine the folks were too. hap’s too
/The College Credit Card Trap If schools don’t enforce stronger restrictions on credit card companies that try to lure cash-starved college students with predatory offers, lawmakers must do it for them.
/Susie orman said you can NOT get out of paying student loans. Some at l6 %
She hates em. stuck for rest of their lives
/search best textbooks
/ http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=446
/do they dress grubby at c’s around the world?
/ “If you spent six or seven years and hundreds of thousands of dollars getting a graduate degree and you end up doing this, that is not a happy thought. But it is steady work.”
JAMES JACOBS, president of Macomb Community College in Michigan, on the part-time jobs his college is offering many teachers.
/stossel: the c scam – http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnStossel/2009/01/28/the_college_scam?page=full&comments=true
Sig for all and for me !
Did that article say and ma was even more useless?
/did I read that Harvard is $33k / yr. 2/09
/Think Again: Neoliberalism and Higher Education What is neoliberalism, Stanley Fish asks, and what has it done to our universities?
/Harvard is $33k/yr 09 tuition. R & b must be more
/the seven seas would cruise the world. Far better to fly and spend the time there.
/stossel’s article helps me not blame myself. Curious to find that after all these yrs
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– Individual maturity in relation to: friendship, courting, sex, vice, crime, religion, cults, idealism, politics, parenting, liberalism, and conservatism.
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/faculty colloquia
/honorary degrees
/in c…., I was wise to write down all the new words I was learning. The lists should have been used.
/tracy, a cg with a ba in banking and finance from pi said she makes more here as cg than she would HERE in banking. Wow. Also carpool to 99 is $25 each way.
/End the University as We Know It By MARK C. TAYLOR If higher education is to thrive, colleges and universities, like Wall Street and Detroit, must be rigorously regulated and completely restructured.
/Community Colleges Challenge Hierarchy With 4-Year Degrees
By TAMAR LEWIN While they offer cheaper bachelor’s degrees closer to home, community colleges risk distraction from their traditional mission, critics said.
/free will vs predestination silly
/ A Degree in English By CHRISTOPHER A. FRANCESE In this modern age, the function of Latin on diplomas is to overawe, not delight.
/short circuit it. sig
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1. /How to Kill a College: The Private Papers of a Campus Dean
EJ182618 – How to Kill a College: The Private Papers of a Campus Dean.
www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/recordDetail?accno… – Cached – Similar
by TL Gross – 1978 – Cited by 6 – Related articles is the original on the net? It was ccny
1. PDF]
III. The History of Open Admissions and Remedial …
www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/cuny/pdf/history.pdf
6 III. The History of Open Admissions and Remedial Education at the City University of New York CUNY’s statutory mission has remained essentially unchanged since …
/open enrollment.
/Binge Drinking on Campus While binge drinking remains high at colleges, it has dropped among people of the same age who do not attend college. It’s time for colleges to look at their drinking policies.
/very sig for the poor etc to short circuit c. sig
/ How I Feel About My M.A. Room for Debate readers discuss whether a graduate degree is a wasted, or worthy, effort. Nyt 7/09
/ The Student Loan Scam The Republican leadership has distorted the debate over a House bill that would save the country nearly $90 billion by ending a failed federal college loan program.
/I wonder if some colleges have lockers
/swn
/kids having kids are called children
/many say they learned everything on the job
/having degrees in capentry etc. good as will make those trades more pro and might make c more practical
Colleges Seek to Remake the Campus Tour By JACQUES STEINBERG Tour guides are being told to favor anecdotes over statistics, and to stop walking backward.
/what were those 4 yrs supposed to be about. What about the lst l2 yrs?
1. /International Education Site for Study Abroad Advice
Study abroad and university advice for students worldwide who are considering an international education. Including articles from the leading journals on …
www.intstudy.com/ – Cached – Similar
/I look back a college as some sort of unrealistic bubble – full of good and bad
/when you think of what a hassle college was – choosing the right one, travel, dorms, registration, classes, tests, some papers, tons and tons of hrs – for what?
/u of Houston – http://www.uh.edu/news-events/tip-sheets/index.php
/wikitextbooks
/ http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar
/those who can’t, teach
/on line ed, but tangled – http://www.usnews.com/sections/education/online-education/index.html
/psych of columbine, helter skelter …
/let in globe asking for sites for ga
/my article could say circumvent the process- comps
/ that I was ROBBED when I attended UC. I paid tens of thousands of dollars for a substandard, sub-par education. The emphasis on liberal philosophy, shoving of “political correctness”, apologistic re-writing of history and idiotic social reworking is just part of it. The poor quality of teaching, as well as the appalling lack of focus, makes our state schools a joke. If I could, I would demand a refund.
Prosecutors Turn Tables on Student Journalists By MONICA DAVEY The Medill Innocence Project has been scrutinizing the work of law enforcement for decades. Now prosecutors say they want to scrutinize the students’ methods.
Constraining America’s Brightest By BOB HERBERT Instead of getting a chance to set the world on fire, college graduates are facing a gloomy economy, unpaid internships and unemployment.
/why provide stu loans when we can get foreigners
/lst mention of some majors costing more ll/09
/clear thru and didn’t learn how to compound int
/jeff didn’t know prices, said pa
/sofi’s a lawyer? Guen’s a nurse, a c grad? Regil …
/I had no choice in c; what if I had: Harvard, grad sch in what?, pol-tank, independ, where did I fit?
/The Department of Lucrative Athletics By GILBERT M. GAUL If college presidents were truly serious about addressing the commercialization of intercollegiate sports, they would fight to ensure that athletic programs lose their tax exemptions.
/Taking the Magic Out of College By LAUREN EDELSON Why are America’s best schools comparing themselves to Hogwarts?
/College Dropouts Cite Low Money and High Stress By TAMAR LEWIN
Most people leave college because they have trouble going to school while working to support themselves.
/c is so overated !!!
/ The Great College Hoax – Forbes.com
On The Cover/Top Stories. The Great College Hoax. Kathy Kristof , 01.14.09, 06:00 PM EST Forbes Magazine dated February 02, 2009 …
www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0202/060.html – Cached – Similar
/ apriori knowledge
/clear thru and not a word about compounding int, amotization, good debt, bad debt, no new car, cut hair, r.e.,
/ earnmydegree
/outsourcing ed
/Special Section: Education Life nyt l/l0 Students are demanding that majors translate into jobs, and the response is changing the classroom at the undergraduate and graduate levels.
/one of the worst parts of my life. Stuck for 4 yrs.
/some c/s might be skewing accptances to preserve gender bal. l2/09
/most pri c’s take gov $.
/Binghamton’s Scandal Without strong monitoring, sports programs can poison campus life, make a mockery of academic values and leave the administration’s reputation in ruins.
/paul martinez, while working on the water supply, brot up the point that some people want something for nothing. 4 yrs of college and I never heard of that.
/search net for credit for what you know. find ways to cut corners by getting credit for what you know.
/3 yr degress possible. Saves a yr of tuition
/the music and program of world at war would burn into me at the houbens. Such a treat to see it.
/ A Very Bright Idea By BOB HERBERT Two New York City high schools are offering college degrees, addressing both the importance of academic achievement and the spiraling cost of higher education. [article said they were offering the lst 2 yrs of c]
/The Academies’ March Toward Mediocrity By BRUCE FLEMING
A football scandal at Annapolis illustrates how our service academies have lost their way.
A Degree in Three By STEPHEN JOEL TRACHTENBERG and GERALD KAUVAR
Colleges should shorten undergraduate curriculums from four years to three to increase access and reduce costs.
/sheila’s prof friend said profs with no real world exp were the worst
/c is unfair to slow students. Sig sig
Colleges Spend More on Recreation Than Class By SAM DILLON A new study documents a growing stratification of wealth across America’s system of higher education.
The Roots of White Anxiety By ROSS DOUTHAT To understand the country’s polarization, take a look at the admissions process at elite private colleges.
/c was waste of much of my time. What about the folks time and $.
/Putting Our Brains on Hold By BOB HERBERT The United States, once the world’s leader in the percentage of young people with college degrees, has fallen to 12th among 36 developed nations.
/college should test and counsel on being naïve, unsopohist, and sw stus, cops on being streetwise.
/why weren’t we exposed to nyt and wsj in c
/if c is lib, how do they look at biz schs? How do they teach biz
/I look over college ratings. I had such dreams then. Dashed. All the more reason for not going in terrible weather.
Why didn’t our folks seek short cuts.
/should be able to test and determine how many yrs c a person’s had.
/ Elite Colleges, or Colleges for the Elite? By RICHARD D. KAHLENBERG Giving preference to children of alumni during the admissions process is basically affirmative action for the rich.
/is there an online ir c or univ? why isn’t the online u of phoenix ir? There must be one . same as why not tape the lectures. And just the best ones from around the world. Course approved of by the economist, the wsj, nyt, lectures by mandella, gorby, thatcher
/dr pierce reminds me of what I was up against . didn’t have a chance
/Wikiversity is a project dedicated to learning materials and learning communities, as well as research. [does nyt use it?]
/ Application Inflation Do colleges really need 30,000 applications to find 1,500 great students?
/U.S. Officials to Press India on Education
A delegation of U.S. education officials is trying to push India to speed up its acceptance of foreign universities, an Indian government initiative that has been promised but appears to be stalled.
/tons of on line courses. Wow
/ http://www.studenthelp.us tutors in india
/Why French Scholars Love U.S. Colleges
More money, more freedom, more competitive energy – what drives the academic global marketplace?
● / Civil rights history — in Orange County
Hector Tobar
…without ever being told about Mendez et al vs. Westminster, the…sometime next year. But Sylvia Mendez wonders how far we’ve come…schools are 99% Latino,” Mendez said. Sometimes, in moments…full circle.” hector.tobar@latimes.com
& Sherman sch
/to be educated = biases
/rotc kicked off many campuses when? In 60’s. now Harvard + thinking of having em back.
/ Schools of Hard Knocks By KENNETH C. DAVIS Money scandals and on-field violence in the college game are nothing new. In 1905, Teddy Roosevelt had to step in to help reform the game.
/2/3rd of c grads, grad in debt owing an average of $24k
/why aren’t great lectures of academics on tv or the net. Conversely why isn’t the great stuff on tv and net used in c?
-like this? – http://www.shopgreatcourses.com/greatcourses.aspx?ai=49854
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/fried
/short circuit it
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/when are you to learn and admit others have more talent?
/c embittered me. Wk didn’t, that I can recall…….cause I could change it?
/ Degrees and Dollars By PAUL KRUGMAN The hollow promise of good jobs for highly educated workers.
/Tycoon Churned Out Doctors in CaribbeanA5 Robert Ross founded one of the largest medical schools in the Western Hemisphere, on the Caribbean island of Dominica.
/online ed really turns me on – should have best bks, profs, tests. Sig
/Education Life: The Global Campus Articles on study abroad, majoring in business, blogging scholars, the fastest growing fields for students to consider and more.
/ Why Look Down on a Business Degree? What’s the problem with the most popular college major in America?
/I wonder if on line c’s use the best texts? Best lectures? And wiki ! so the average person can ed himself.
/ Many With New College Degree Find the Job Market Humbling By CATHERINE RAMPELL
Employment rates for new graduates have fallen sharply, as have starting salaries for those who can find work.
/ The Downsized College Graduate Employment rates for new college graduates have tanked. Are there factors other than the economy to blame?
/when I was young, one grad sued for lack of wisdom
/search net for how to ed self, best texts, where to get comp degree
/c is how to study all but the real world
/they dk streetwise. Can’t even define it. Robert de niro, telli savalis
● India Journal: Why Our Colleges Need Democracy
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/what employers want in c grads –
/ http://blog.syracuse.com/shoptalk/2007/08/what_employers_want_from_colle.html
/ The Case Against Law School Should the standard three-year law school model, followed by passage of the bar exam, be the only path to a legal career?
/poetry worthless. Song of roland too
/Susie orman telling one stu he should be proud he took out a loan and looks for a dream job. XXXX terrible 8/ll
How many grad like this, can’t find a good job, or any job. They can tap your ss
/wash diesel taught at golden west
/search easier path to a degree
/what is a c ed: reasoning, obj, vocab, concepts which knowledge? ….what else
/ Online Enterprises Gain Foothold as Path to a College Degree By TAMAR LEWIN
Some recent entrants into the field of online education offer grounds for both concern and hope.
● Straighterline: A Way to Speed the Pace
● 
University of the People: Open Courses, Nearly Free
● A Short-Lived Test, Even With Coaching
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The innovative u……:
■a new trimester schedule that keeps the campus in heavy use year round;
■dramatic revision in course offerings such as modular majors and carefully tailored GE courses making it easier and less costly for students to switch majors or to customize their education;
■strengthening of internship program to better prepare undergraduates for employment;
■elimination of expensive inter-collegiate sports programs;
■combining online content and face-to-face instruction to reach more students and improve education (with many innovations on the path to high-quality online content);
■augmentation of faculty teaching with peer-to-peer assistance in which students who understand the material efficiently help their peers;
■extension efforts in several cities where online content is coupled with face-to-face mentoring to reach more students;
■establishing a common “Learning Model” for education, with emphasis on learning experiences and case studies that can be enhanced with peer-to-peer interaction and supplemented with online content; and
■elevating faculty pay to above-average levels to compensate for the additional effort required of the faculty to make the more intense BYU-Idaho system succeed
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/c grads who can’t get wk. 9/ll http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/fashion/recent-college-graduates-wait-for-their-real-careers-to-begin.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha3&pagewanted=all 1st 2 are ob
/on line degree thru graig’s list?
/search get college credits for ….
Like – http://www.umuc.edu/students/academics/onlinelearning/about.cfm
/The University of Wherever By BILL KELLER Can technology provide an elite education for the masses?
/open admissions ccny atlantic
/$1k/semester at cuny during Michael moore’s days.
/Sparta camp was at –
earl truax was the dir in 61. Another dir was don brown? Bill hauk rang a bell with him. Not other names. He was an ato. 633 1355. Earle.truax@yahoo.com from here but 4 yrs at sjs. Wow. The mems. pat mcclenahan? Some guy names rich. London fog raincoats? And ivy league pants with the buckle in the back. In gate 6 with wife?
End of the following sch yrs: 57 – grad, 8 out, 9 cmc, 60- sac, 6l-sjs, 62 out, grad 63.
/On Campus, a Law Enforcement System to Itself By NINA BERNSTEIN
The Penn State scandal is emblematic of a parallel judicial universe favoring athletes that exists at many colleges and universities.
/northeastern univ of boston? puts stus to work at jr’s. 3 mos wk 3 mos study. it’s called “cooperative program”. tv 6/93. [antioch too?] and stus get big jump on the job market. makes studies far more relevant. sig
/I must have gone to reserve meetings at sjs. I don’t remember such. Was nevis there?
/I think pa said he could have taught all to hap in 6 mos.
/ny did more for me than c.
/honorary degree to mike Tyson
/ The College Sports Cartel By JOE NOCERA The N.C.A.A. is a walking, talking antitrust violation.
/what would south bend be without notre dame. What would notre dame be without football
/went to classes at ccny, new sch, Bernard baruch, saw cold pace college. Heard of cooper union. Didn’t see nyu.
The Columbia complex of colleges had no c atmosphere. Ccny – the Harvard of the proletariat. around l35th st. I started a course here. Took subway, trudged up the hill in the cold. Sat in class with the windows covered with condensation. Some students didn’t take their heavy jackets off in class. Some kept interrupting the prof. he got mad. Grubby students in the cafeteria. I can’t imagine going to school in such conditions after doing it here in calif.
Later they had ‘open enrollment’ which really hurt the school. Dup on ny
/never taught us about jargon: educationalese, militarese, bureaucratese, psychobabble,
/I had some course ‘the bible as lit? ….
/umuc – dumb name: u of md, u college. Wow
/ Why East Asian Students Are Superior American parents looking to send their children to the world’s best schools might want to start looking East.
/why scholarships without requiring wk.
/stu loans are time bomb said la?
/no one talks about the dropouts who are made to feel bad?
/ Freedom Center f by david horowitz seeks to end pol indoctrination of c kids.
/search if the Antioch model of wk, study, wk exists elsewhere
/never pt out how hard it is for some. And impossible for others. Never hear bout those who almost got a degree. Some probably know more.
/ Wasting Our Minds By PAUL KRUGMAN Young people, even with a college degree, are entering an economy that just doesn’t seem to want them. 4/l2
/why c football should be banned –
/ How Reliable Are the Social Sciences? By GARY GUTTING The physical sciences produce detailed and precise predictions, but social sciences do not. Policy makers should take heed.
/DROPPING O peter Thiel on 60 min 5/20/l2. Said c not worth it. has contests, pays winners with projects not to go. Morley safer. Pet started paypal. Lst I’ve heard of such anti c. said average plumber makes as much as the average dr.
/ Majoring in Eligibility By JOE NOCERA Letting athletes who can barely read into college devalues the hard-earned degrees of everyone else.
/shawn of geek squad has ba in comp… sci but learned most on job or from real world exp
/umbc some c run by blk on 60 min. 76 cos. Located on campus. Lst I’ve ever heard of such. No football team . winning teams cost tons.
/c must be poor in pi. Search it?
/cheap aa degree – http://patten.edu – $329/mo
`/ education connection for online learning
/any c’s across the border?
/what about field work just across the border
/sowell said academics have no backbone – are good at preemptive surrender
/unpaid interns learned more than they did in c. stossel. All raised their hands
/not only did I have lousy jobs before my b.a., but after too
/world at war. Study guide?
/search study guides
The Trouble With Online Education By MARK EDMUNDSON Internet courses are monologues. True learning is a dialogue.
/those that can, do, those that can’t, teach –
/how did my b.a. stack up against others.
/minored in hist and never heard of the art of war
False Promises Students are left with valueless credentials and crippling debt while for-profit schools pocket billions of their federal financial aid. Congress needs to rouse itself.
/made my own list of vocab. [where is it?]
/search best textbooks
/how did my b.a. help me? Few jobs, that’s all.
/0 on compound int, value, worth,
/I burned out in swimming at cmc. Also during one course in summer sch. Ma didn’t like it.
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Resentment of c
try c burnout, worthless degree, disillusionment, discouragement, a degree for 0, for no job,
/search it as waste, inefficient, irrelevant,
/how to short circuit it
/dreary nite sch
/beck shouldn’t have been able to teach such a hard course at jc.
/which profs and teachers stood out
/ Worst College Majors for Your Career – http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/10-worst-college-majors-for-your-career/1.html?cid=37&Source=Taboola 9/l2
/what are the best texts. What happened to the old ones – like mine of hist
/search the c grads in menial work.
/someone should make a list of what you should learn from tv
/Kiplinger has list of worst college majors for your career
/worst majors, according to Kiplinger l0/l2: in order of 1-l0, anthro, fine arts, film and photo…, phil an drel, graphic design, studio arts, lib arts, drama, soc, eng.
Feigning Free Speech on Campus By GREG LUKIANOFF Colleges are not helping to promote free thought and speech – in fact, they probably do as much to repress it as any other force in young people’s lives.
/c stus wear backpacks now. L0/l2
/so many grad and dk what they want to do – bob woodward
/non-grads: eric hoffer?, scholzenizen?, ray Bradbury
/jeff grad as an architect and didn’t know prices
/writing papers was very hard. I don’t remember writing many
/colleges major in idealism
/why didn’t we study churchill’s books
/never heard of pri… or lib vs cons
/c is pretentious
/hist l0l
/ucla harder to get into than uci
/tv said on line ed is growing fast. Edx is one –
edX – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdXCached You +1’d this publicly. Undo
edX is a not-for-profit enterprise of its founding partners the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University to offer online university-level courses …
/never heard of demming, drucker, insearch of excellence guy but he was after me? – tom peters?, CHURCHILL !
/what about those who don’t grad and still have stu loans
/online ed: via Coursera , Udacity, and one non-profit: edx. Sig
/don’t ask c to use hist stuff on utube
/Study: Less Than 10% of Indian MBA Graduates Are ‘Employable’
/course in ethics – cmc
/if c’s grade on the curve, why go to c
/Degrees of Debt
/Building a Showcase Campus, Using an I.O.U. By ANDREW MARTIN Colleges have gone on a building spree, channeling the movie mantra, “If you build it, they will come.” Now they are $205 billion in debt, with students and taxpayers facing the bill. L2/l2
/on line ed looks good, but remember ma and I walked one on tv – dr. kirkeguard? And it was dry. not the same as in class.
/udacity, courser, edx, open university, marginal revolution university,
Think tank on this: observatory on borderless heigher ed.
Students Rush to Web Classes, but Profits May Be Much Later By TAMAR LEWIN New companies are partnering with universities to offer online courses, in an effort that could define the future of higher education – if anyone can figure out how to make money.
/ www.salary.com 8 worst degrees for making % are: 8 – soc, 7 – fine arts, 6 – ed, 5 – religious studies, 4 – tourism, 3 – nutrician 2 – psych , 1 communications Look at Sheila, smit,
/if I were to start over: b&c, blog, independ as soon as possible.
/campus pd could be a course. Lot of stuff on tv could be
/College Degree, No Class Time Required
/fee has the lst one critical of student loans. l/29/l3
/c was an incredible investment – time, travel, $, bks, study, chapman, lb state, all that sch bus, pizza,
My Valuable, Cheap College Degree By ARTHUR C. BROOKS With costs rising and returns falling, a degree for $10,000 makes a lot of sense.
/object in much of c is to get degree and or grades for grad sch, not study anything practical
/rhyme ? of the ancient mariner
/ The Trouble With Online College Education via the Internet has been overrated and could produce more dropouts than degrees.
/physiological psychology
/psych should have a practical side – start working on your fam. Grp.
/geneology
/the bible as literature was a course. Song of roland was another
/grad with a degree that’s less helpful, hope to get some kind of job, huge stu debt
/u of chi was on a par with the ivy league
/search online ed in other countries –
/foreign words to c: practical, sensible, simple, realistic, useful, down to earth, common sensical,
/why does devry call itself a univ…
/some of the drop outs were smart to do so
/ /all the inefficiency is harder on slower students
/ stu success scorecard rates c’s – bad title, poor writing.
/had ethics at cmc
/ Two Cheers for Web U! By A. J. JACOBS Take away the dorm rooms, the classroom banter, the brown-nosing, the keg parties and the tuition, and is it still college?
/never about those who found it too hard, or dropped out for this and that, never grad, grad – no job, how to interview
/Colleges Adapt Online Courses to Ease Burden By TAMAR LEWIN Universities begin blending open online courses, created to deliver elite college instruction to anyone with an Internet connection, to their offerings.
/no or few marketable skills
/ College is a bad financial bet for some, study says
By Walter Hamilton
Story | May 8, 2013 | 7:43 AM
… according to a new study. Higher education remains a smart financial … reinforced the notion that college is a good financial bet … most selective” colleges have a “lifetime … ALSO: Follow Walter Hamilton on Twitter
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Article could be good:
11 Public Universities with the Worst Graduation Rates
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/search bad textbooks. Rated
/lot of c grads in china can’t get a job
/scot or someone at Stanford said it took you 2 wks to get a date with a girl there you wouldn’t even look at in hi sch.
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How did wsj get away with printing this: amazing. Some of the comments were good:
13 colleges that aren’t worth the money. = title of post no longer on line.
– na ah ha, that can help define what an ‘ed’ is. sig?
/ridiculous terms: onomatopoeia, iambic pentameter, nubulei, epistomology, biology terms,
/if you have almost all the ‘requirements’ to grad or far more credits but not this and that, no degree
/search fads, silly courses, …miseducation/colleges have wanted diversity on campus as part of education. Wtf. We went to college without learning much from the minorities there !
/coursera messes up the titles right off the bat
They must have tests on line or at centers.
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/search short cuts to a degree
/open univ… for eng on tv is 44 yrs old. Wow
/etech websites
/lot of self-righteousness on campus
/imagine taking out a student loan for such courses
/ https://clep.collegeboard.org/ c level exam program = clep
One reader said: You cannot CLEP out of a degree…however you can test out at Excelsior, TESC or Charter Oak. The tests include CLEP, DSST, TECEP and Excelsior Exams. There are enough upper level units to get you to a BS or BA. The degrees are limited to Liberal Arts or Business, I believe. Degreeinfo.com or bain4weeks.com are good sites to explore if you are in a hurry.
/comps more sig with the net and tv educating us like crazy. Ag. Wiki too
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Moocs – massive open online courses. Distance learning. Why can’t you just take the course now, why have to wait it to start. Classes are in no order. Unclear if any credit or tests so far. Ty no syllabuses, stupid titles, wrong capitals. I knew it would happen. Only takes one look:
1 Udacity – https://www.udacity.com/
2 Coursera – https://www.coursera.org/
3 Edx – https://www.edx.org/ – Harvard etc
4 4 open university – mostly the uk? – http://www.open.ac.uk/
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/trade schools?
/my idea: sig of best bks. Best instructors – fried. Recorded, can go online anytime. Labs? Tests – credit
/ capella u, phoenix u?
/they probably wouldn’t dare mention wiki
/ Virtual U. Master’s Degree Is New Frontier of Study Online By TAMAR LEWIN
The master’s degree offered by the Georgia Institute of Technology through massive open online courses has the potential to disrupt higher education. [ah yes, we must use the term ‘massive’]
/no mention of trade schools, correspondence courses, ged. I went to the sites of udacity, courser, edx and found . classes in no order. Unclear if any credit or tests so far. no syllabuses, bad titles, excessive capitalization.
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/looked up the fed register in c. why?
/we must have written papers in c. do I remember any or any benefit?
/that boot camp before cmc was good. Sparta-camp before sjs were great but why. 1st day when visiting sjs – thrilled.
/cmc: too much time decorating for a dance, rah rah at football games, swimming ok – but ton of work. nancy gray saved the day – rode bike to there? Skiing was ok. Fires were dumb. Little interaction with other c’s. stan Kenton concert – big deal. No car.
/ ’presents’ at ucla. Sac: some dance, football game, tripled with tj. Kay Elliot. Beck
/ Sjs: rush, girls, stu gov, lectures by outsiders, burdick’s class, kappa theta dance. Pizza places, sch bus driver.
/cal st ful: why titan h so much fun. Barn dances. Chella. Vw, afs,
/add that farce of a course at coastline – 3 credits for no work.
/ c’s should be able to be paid for night courses in labs …..
/dr. frank baxter of usc? Was so pop… on tv talking about the virtues of being able to conjugate? Or do a quadralinear equation.
/bill bennet said c catalogues are badly misleading – giving students false hopes, lies,
/no mention of all the people that get their hearts broken
/mike rowe: A trillion dollars in student loans. Record high unemployment. Three million good jobs that no one seems to want. The goal of Profoundly Disconnected – http://profoundlydisconnected.com/ = 0 . is to challenge the absurd belief that a four-year degree is the only path to success. Send him c http://mikerowe.com/category/blog/mikeroweworks/ is also @@@ !!!!! !!
https://www.mikeroweworks.org/ – crude,smart aleck, convoluted, no contact us
/
https://www.google.com/#q=download+textbooks
/revise to put in hrs and hrs of study to get a grade in a dumb course. What did it prove? Far harder on slower students.
/the object wasn’t to learn, but to find easiest way to pass course and get a degree. You forget tons too.
/I developed my own list of vocab
/what is a degree?
/c’s rated as to what – employability, expertise but no job, debt, ‘satisfaction?’, proficiency, critical thinking, analytical skills, speaking – articulation, writing, maturity, contacts, proven skills, grad… rates, vs which depts. Are best, which profs, how are profs rated
/c as my private prison. What else was like that
/commuted to lb st for a course. Gave rides to some gal up to cal st or somewhere. Chapman, tried dumb courses in ny. Clear up to sjs, blew it, blew folks vac, out a yr, diff jobs, looking for c kids, finally back in at csf, barely grad, went to outside a church. Think of the young people who are being mislead!
/what does it mean to be ed…..?
/Lydia king wanted to go to c for the fun
/ A Year Abroad vs. a Year Wasted The cost of college continues to rise. Meanwhile, there’s growing pressure for U.S. students to study abroad. How important is this global experience?
/how to search the comparing a b.a. from pi vs here
/comparing ir degrees. Sig? – http://www.unlishare.com/intered/index.aspx?pid=academicequivalency
/those who worked their way thru c.
/c football to pay for ……
/thus my int in online ed
/search heartbroken students. Students discovering they can’t keep up
/pri c costs 23k/yr l0/l3 – been that way about l0 yrs.
/it’s like rel – this hi ideal
/mother had a teaching credential or degree or something and had to swallow her pride and work for bullocks
/bonehead English
/never hear of those who got their hearts broken in c, cept for stu loans
/net: worthless courses, majors, degrees, classes on images
/bilingual was in elem
/affirm action in, now out, eth studies in now less,
/ timing Israeli Housing Tender Angers Palestinians
Israel invited construction companies on Sunday to bid on 1,700 housing units it plans to build in the West Bank and Jerusalem, angering the Palestinians two days before Secretary of State John Kerry arrives to push peace talks.
/lst what’s wrong with hi sch. Then
/guy on 60 min said Harvard is 60k and u of Toronto is 6k. how can the former give an ed l0 times better
/don’t forget jeanette’s bit on college and now planning to wk. woodfill’s too. and all those who couldn’t go or handle it etc.
/were churchill’s books ever studied in c, at least parts of them
/u.s. hist didn’t have much on slavery
/imagine what mm spent to get thru Fordham, what how spent at Columbia, guys here to go to sc. What about ariz. Standford for scot and its law sch for k.
/testing, grading should be out of the hands of the prof
/spanage? Vocational? college across from john wayne, pri. 2 yrs wk in l3 mos. To be lvn.
/some articles in econ… re the lack of practicality in hi sch and c. great. Just what I’ve always said
/’….degrees and certs that our children need….’
/tuition now at cal st u $5500/yr 3/l4
/what good did a degree to any of our classes
/0 on those who couldn’t get in, got in wrong c, wrong courses, major, hearts broken
/the categorical imperative
/flaws in my article: some co.s do check that you got a degree and from where. Which pays far more in long run. Vs my ideas that they didn’t and you learn most on the job. fix
/if you get the same degree from 2 diff colleges, do you earn more being from the better c? yes, said economist. [but for how long?]
/ag: did the avail… of student loans contribute to the rise of the cost of ed
/I like to think I’ve injected my c degree into my experiences – to reap something from the effort
/if I’d worked at hm dep all those years.
/ma with her ba and credential had to swallow her pride and take a job at bullocks.
/barf: ethics, phil, humanities, poetry, civics?, lang…, calculus?,
/search john silber was it boston u?
/degree solutions: www.getadiplomaasap.com
/ search graph of growth of scholarships –
/starbucks to give online ed to wrkrs via ariz st univ. – http://asuonline.asu.edu/online-degree-programs?gclid=CLuNu6Stn78CFUZbfgod8aoA8g stupid names of majors – wow . same dumb name at the u of phoenix
/grading on the curve
/degrees from better c’s must mean they were harder to get into and stay in.
/ What is vocational and what is college? Telling vocational students they are in ‘college’ doesn’t help them. Or did the line between the two become blurred long ago?
/corfinthian colleges inc. of s.a. is selling off 85 campuses. ‘….’
/if a ged for hi sch, why not for c?
/what specific skills are employers looking for?
/vocations now taught in c? have been for how long?
/aren’t all levels of ed ways of screening talent?
/some cg’s have b.a.’s and don’t seem like it. sam, o
/can never have too much ed. Bull, talk to those – some nurses …. Gill’s wife
/should have hist of the civil right movement or do they?
/vacuous course titles of online courses of ariz u?
/youth grad from c self-righteous
/why didn’t Antioch survive. It had work, study, etc
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/how can we have the best higher ed
/u of phoenix: you may even be able to receive c credits for life or work experience. Sig. bad course titles
/some course at sjs in csc by the most boring aussie.
/I don’t think colleges had lockers
/the classics. What were they
/they probably never told those studying med that their accents could hurt them
/did colleges ever have lockers? More sig back east.
/jr rotc and rotc
/sexual assaults, 1 in 5? Making up some guidelines. Without consulting their depts. Of ethics, phil, humanities, police sci, rel?, pre-law, psych, sw
/faright ALARM at harvard wrote ll/90: what is it about Harvard
/ Guides:
/online, comprehensives vs article said that degrees from some schs earn more at lst?
/finally graphs on which c’s pay off
/link to c
/skip – odd course titles
/the more ed the better you can handle making up wills, trusts
/such high ideals yet rape,
/I don’t remember questioning the courses in c. would have gotten depressed.
/ c and rel are both theory
/I look back at mary lu’s ad re seeing sailor about 1 b. was it fair to other students vs who cares in the broader context – I’d paid my dues. One of the worst periods of my life.
/suppose you go to an average college. Why can’t you take courses and test that will give you the equivalent etc of Harvard. Why does it all stop at grad from Harvard
/center on higher ed reform. Sounds good
/ $3800/yr to go to a comm c. l/l5
/70% of col grads never work in the field they studied. tv- schwartzkoff-
/guy in randall’s off said my writing wouldn’t have passed his frosh eng.
/degrees didn’t help me, smit, phil, hutch, tom, ralph? Gills, dj?, how?, m?
those in law and med? Which girls
/snhu – online ed www.snhu.edu
/
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=those+who+can+do+those+who+can%27t+teach
/man who became a famous poet for the working class, Philip Levine, taught writing at cal st fresno and at Princeton. He tell his fresno students l0% of their poems was genuine and authentic and they didn’t have a problem. when he told the same to the more privileged Princeton students, they were apt to become emotionally undone. [later in article he said his job there was the worst] this from la times. From the net: His worst students, he said, were Ivy Leaguers who were shocked to learn that their poems were no good. He preferred the working-class students of Fresno State, who seemed more receptive to the notion that a poem, like a car’s transmission or an unkempt garden, sometimes needed to be rebuilt, cleaned up and put in order.
/should have had the economist
/terrible – for cal st lb – http://www.csulb.edu/ I don’t want to look at csf or any? of em – cmc, sac, sjs
/lot of foreingers here for a c education. Why?
/comparing c degrees –
/u of ariz?
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/never heard about using other people’s $, getting others to do the wk
/marauder should have been on wall with histo all thru those courses
/I can see why people drop out of hi sch and c
/search disallutionment, heartbreak, irrelevance, disenchantment, reasons for dropping out
/idiocy I got from coastline
/How to Avoid Commencement Clichés By ARTHUR C. BROOKS
Talk about life’s purpose. Don’t give product advice.
/why didn’t folks think of comps when I was out of c for a yr. that must have been a dry yr. I think I went to lbsc? with martin?. Drove sch bus, couldn’t wait till the c kids came home.
/c was prison and heartbreak
/65k?/yr to go to Colorado …
/average price for a ba at a 4 yr univ, with r & b, bks etc, less grants and scholoarships is just under $l3k 7/l5 la
/discover my college on tv. Credit etc.
/coach cone at cmc mumbled about once out of c, the pol of all, including coaching, is a drag
/profs shouldn’t give grades. Too much infl.
/sac: stupid course titles – https://www.sac.edu/Pages/default.aspx
names of bldgs. – https://www.sac.edu/AboutSAC/Maps/Pages/default.aspx
I sent both to 7? Around 9/27/l5
/ stupid course titles –
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=stupid+course+titles
So bad it was depressing.
/search how much of college was a waste
/that $1 hist bk has all the terms and junk we studied in c, which now look like 0
/we should have had the nyt, the economist,
/not sure if pa sent $l65/mo at sjs
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/ http://academicearth.org – looks good for online ed? Missing friedman, sowell,
/learn more in short time from the economist than from hrs on other pubs. Same with some things on tv
/ed and c should give examples of ed and uned ……
/just think if my b.a. had cost me and folks tons at a pri c. first time I ever thot of that. I don’t think cmc provided that much more ed. Look at brad
/eric cantor, long in congress, said academics are not accountable
/teachers and profs shouldn’t be the ones to grade. Fix. that would cut back on sexual atten…
/I’d rather marry someone brilliant to make c far easier
/no one talks about the anquish of the slow learners
/you study all kinds of abstract stuff that is supposed to refine your thinking …
/I had a whole course on the am civil war and don’t remember blk soldiers being mentioned. If captured by the south, death was much more likely. Not much on slavery either.
/are the humanities lib arts? Who cares.
/sean Hannity is opposite
/search useless parts of c, useless concepts
/good ed but not talented – like geo w and obama
/diff twix 2 yr and 4 yr ed
/voc… tech… trade … blu vs white lib arts, humanities, career,
/who wants to sit behind stupid hair in class or anywhere
/it’s bad enuff to wast time and $ on dumb courses at public c, how much worse at pri c with much higher fees. In my day
/what do you think of the irish. You might be infl by your folks view of them if they came from boston
/stu protest in fall, nov. 0l5 – often in spring
/totally pc vs queer resource center
/ www.goicdc.com blks advertising it
/what if I’d paid hi tuition?
/think of those who spend on pri colleges: phil, ralph allen, tom, hutch, keith, smit, kyla, scot, Susie goode, ky cotter
/frank rich said l2/l5 on tv lot of the pc on campus is silly
/
/search list of c fads, good and silly protests
/sure glad I was able to go to pub c’s and not a pri c where my folks would have had to pay far more for ridiculous courses. Etc. add to that stu debt
/bklet from saddleback c – full of feel good for all ages. What a waste. Remember coastline gave me a cert for a course I only went to once
/looks like math requirements are a way of keeping blks out of c
/the more irrelevant their courses are, the more c students want to protest anything – ag
/makes you i………so ready to play god in vista
/if I hadn’t gotten a b.a. after all that study, I would have felt awful
/silly courses etc lead to silly protests
/you think of what …………………..spent on a pri c and then pri grad sch to end up ………ing ……. .
/how many ended up working in their major
/ what is a c degree supposed to mean
/tuition alone now is $50k at usc 3/l6
/all the expense + for brad’s degree and ……
/glad I didn’t have a kid whose ed I’d have had to worry about
/no one tells you when studying another language about how some mouths are formed and will always have a thick accent. Also the role of personality
/c didn’t help hap and many
/to learn how hist has been distorted
/the economist and nyt
/sac should not have allowed beck to make his course so much harder than the others
/diversity is the job of c
/ba’s can support trump – so how ‘ed’ are they. Same with Hannity
/c: biz is bad, mercenaries are bad, snakes, alegators, sharks, Hiroshima, panama canal, iwo jima?
/chapman u has a c of educational studies
/lot of c is presumptuous.
/search those that can do, those that can’t teach
/ KAREN CHAPMAN, 47, who said she had six part-time jobs and two master’s degrees, in Wilkes County, N.C., where median household income had the second-steepest decline in the nation from 2000 to 2014.
`/ https://www.bing.com/search?q=earn+college+credit&form=EDGHPC&qs=PF&cvid=b74938c509184557b25a246de7bcce42&pq=earn%20college%20credit seems like you might learn more this way.
/course on ethics – cmc
/song of roland, bible as lit, csc,
/I guess some c’s teach art, music, singing, sculpture, writing, lit? poetry?
/pecuniary cannons of taste –
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=pecuniary+canons+of+taste
/the liberal arts, the humanities, not conservative arts
/what about a course on what your parents might have been right about or what you might agree with them someday
/those that go off to Berkeley or ucla and next yr are at sac. Didn’t ucla waste $ on em?
/bonehead eng
/dipiloma mills
/how many nite schs did I go to
/ron getty
/search mugged on way to ccny –
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mugged+on+way+to+ccny
Or assaulted on way to ccny
/I went to some nite sch where the hot drink burned my tongue. Summer sch for geom..? thus free to join choir. Started course at Bernard barouche. New sch for short something. Cop sch. Lbsc with don martin, carol, betty. Commuted to csu with some gal. chapman, summer sch when I guarded? As had to study on days off. Bars on windows. Study? Or sleep charts at cmc with bd and strings. Did I have a car at sac? Sjs, out a yr, sch bus? Csf, didn’t get pc, extra course to stay in dorm. afs.
/the economist puts out graphs we should have had all thru sch.
/how to avoid $$ degrees for those who can’t get jobs or choose jobs that don’t require degrees – like one guy I know of ………….
/thru c and never heard of econ cat…..s on my blog
/those with ivy league eds who didn’t use em. Same with w point.
/took em 3 yrs to catch on to using wiki. 6/l6
/so diligent in my studying in college. What for?
/no grasp of Macbeth, hamlet, all of shakspere
/lst 2 yrs of you have to take general studies
/ c was one of the worst parts of my life – altho give csu – ful? some credit. Why?
/search what percent of courses are not needed, irrelevant, silly, a waste
/always dumping on machiaveli
/in c you learn: obj…, don’t generalize, rationalize, vocab, empirical, qualify, prove, inductive, deductive,
/howard’s expensive ed for what? same as brad, art zinner, smit
/brainwashed on western eur. And ussr. Rest – 0
/in c I made a list of vocab – one that easily could have been given us
/slavery skimmed over in u.s. hist
/schs require you take off your hats indoors?
Rec
The 5 in ed, and c? credit for ….. , comps? Get the degree and begin vs right schs
/part of c is how you talk. Fix
/if my ba didn’t do much, probably same for an ma
/mm went to Fordham
/course on civil war
/Antioch
/course on civil serv from an incredibly boring aussie
/lot of acadmics spend tons of time explaining why they don’t know anything
/search too much theory in c ivory tower
/what is an ed? What actually a c ed is. is a c ed? What do employers want? And expect
What conclusions do grads come to. Hannity
Isn’t part of it screening out those with less talent !
/fix how some get hearts broken
/tons of theory and dumb ideas; so pick your courses and profs with extreme care.
/theory – that’s why you want to get into the real world
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/comp for stu gov. ++ depending on what you learned
/maturity
/ double credit for living elsewhere-depending on what you learned – 50% for travel
/ cs is king rec more interships-summers-credit
`/ a book called “earn credit for what you know”. Sig Military College Credit
`/Your military training can count toward a degree. Official Site. Sig
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Reinventing himself, demonstrable skills, shark tank?
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An educated person: objective, qualifies questions and answers, honest about his background in what he’s talking about when giving his view, vocab, concepts ……………. Articulate. Delineate what he knows from his opinion. Accurate. Be ahead in important ways.
Vs bright. Respect for what he knows and doesn’t know –
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=signs+of+an+educated+person
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Ed: taken out of context, plagerized innuendo, nuance,
Edna didn’t hear of useless courses in her son’s c ed
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/diff in ed can be seen on c span when they take questions on the phone
`/ https://www.makeschool.com/ was on this is life with lisa ling. I sent a note
/search worthless ed, worthless degrees,
/definition of liberal arts education
/ Higher education has long complained that more and more students need remediation at the beginning of college.
/did I think of changing colleges to avoid lang….
/got to get all into c. but not grad sch as less talent
/diversity: I had 0 in c, later had blk coworkers, bosses. No problem
/ www.professorwatch.org – na
/DePaul univ and depauw univ both are pri 24k and 2400
/ http://www.professorwatchlist.org/index.php – not much
/c is dreamland – go to an ivory tower and study phil, ethics,microbiology? , soc, lit, art, music, sculp… and seminary is the worst
/courses at seminaries
/working their way thru college – donna garner at knots for Redlands
/we had to go to chapel or something at chapman
/search worst ivory towers, majors, terms, concepts
/ I criticize government, religion, the military, and ‘education’ so I say the worst would be to go to a government run, religious, military college. I don’t think there is such because religion isn’t stressed in gov mil colleges like it is in religious colleges.
/I feel sorry for many in c – those who work their way thru it, bad majors, profs,
/ one of stan’s stu…….jim brown was mot by stan, taught at chapman? Which meant free tuition for 1 or more kids, which is $50k/yr he married a root girl.
/chas Bradley: not completely ed till you learn a diff lang [and live in a diff place]. He’s l35 lbs
/had to write answers in blue bks – or essays
/bk: what’s happened to the univerty? A soc… exploration of it infantilisation
/criminology should require seeing valachi papers etc. viridiana,
/in c you study the loftiest of ideals and end up yrs later doing dummy work on just collecting the info for a tax preparer. Many things like this.
/dr oliver said ea yr in c gets harder
/not one course in c taught us how to think. So what is it: obj….. op vs fact, emotion, bias
/movie: the paper chase
/search disillusioned college students
/major in biz as low income and buy a brand new car
/pub c are now $10k/yr 3/l7 no one ever says c destroys some. tucker Carlson going for this. issac morehouse founder and ceo of praxis on cnn – http://discoverpraxis.com/ !!!! `/info@discoverpraxis.com learn by doing. They help you set up your website. Biz love it. c keeps you OUT of the real world. and DESTROYS some students. [make a flo chart] dumb graphics
/Update: Since writing this I’ve stumbled upon http://discoverpraxis.com/ – which sounds like a far more efficient approach to getting one into the real world early.
/3 yrs of c and worked in pizza place. 4 yr and drove cab and tons of temp jobs
/here or ed – fastrack at col…….tech…..univ
/what % fail the entrance exams for med, law, grad records exam
/bad time: out of sjs, out a yr, living with folks, sch bus, pizza, finally back in for a yr. then vw, all that hell for a b.a. what crap. All that for a c average. Shows you don’t belong in grad sch vs nat glover.
/beck said something like I wrote better than I tested
/there are diff types of intelligence
/not many reg pix for this. try clip art
/how many grad from c and dk what to do – roger Gorman, woodward
/how much of c is erroneous info
/c is is context – how a word is used
`/ http://profoundlydisconnected.com/foundation/
net found nothing similar. Try voc schs. hm page needs work. Title needs spacing
– APPRENTICE AT A STARTUP. It should be APPRENTICE AT A STARTUP
But more important, it’s not clear what it means. revise.
/Get a full time job in 9 months. Start your career now. No degree required. Should be
Get a full time job in 9 months. No degree required.
/the first vid is too gimmicky and distracting with the cartoons
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/older I get I regret being mislead by c and despair? About the amazing waste in c
/big effort to find right courses and profs.
/search ex-clergy, disillusioned swers, pc vols who dropped out, teachers, all
/c never questioned rel…. wow
/junk we learned about: purgatory, indulgences, justification by faith
/I’d have to prove that how they handle protesters against speakers show how c isn’t the real world
/lst 2 yrs are general studies = ?
/could just list the courses I had that were wastes
/being lib fits with ivory tower.
/ search those critical of c
/tv: broke, busted, disgusted fed gov gave stu loans, all had $, c’s raised perks to attract students and raised tuition 5/l7
/ 20 Differences between High School & College Life – Fastweb
Fastweb › …life › …differences-between-high-school-college
Student Life; Volunteer; Student News. 20 Differences between High School & College Life If college sounds pretty great, … Need money to pay for college?
/ jayne.jung@solarcity.com – gal at hd telling of hm bats. Went to cmc
/why does nursing sch cost more than c in pi
/feel like grad means perfect job. Like perfect romance?
/if c was more cons, it’d be more practical. Sig?
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/those who got some c? cor, laurel, ….
/beck’s hard class was out of sync with sac
/all thru c and never heard something for nothing
/ are there any latino colleges or c’s for other grps? Yeshiva, cath, Hillsdale, indian, thus
https://www.bing.com/search?q=list+of+historically+hispanic+colleges&FORM=R5FD
/cmc – too much decorating for a dance
/I’m afraid to search silly course titles, j, lexicon, academic j, course titles,
/I never got don Quixote nor man of la mancha
/search c vs real world [acadamia vs ….]
/super boring class on civil service by an aussie
/no mention of free trade
/
The Disappearing American Grad Student
By NICK WINGFIELD
Graduate programs in science, technology, engineering and mathematics have the highest percentage of international students of any broad academic field. Why don’t the locals bother?
/the net in c would have been great – graphs etc.
/psych students should have to take the mmpt and work on their heads. SIG
Minnesota multiphasic personality test – [or inventory]
/is c worth the cost – https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/democrats-and-republicans-agree-on-almost-everything-about-college-%E2%80%94-except-whether-its-worth-the-cost/ar-BBFP9sP?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Csf:
/ http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/vs_portal.php
6/l9/l963 arsc@fullerton.edu 657 278 7601 orgf st c. from 61 or 2 to 63.
/facts of life: talent, in for sports, recruiting – amateur, drop outs due to …..menial work, basket weaving, fsee, gre, lsat, gpa,
/ various online options –
/student clearing house . org? for transcripts but have to do it for ea c.
/distance learning
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/one of the worst things facts of life is that some stagger thru c to get grades the smarter kids get with far less effort.
/ag: excess: marching bands,
/search useless courses ……..in sch, in c
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/5/l8 same in oz c doesn’t prep em for biz amazing
`/study abroad – also on youth5
http://www.internationalstudent.com/
http://www.nrcsa.com/index.jsp
http://www.studyabroaddomain.com/
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/25/education/25degree.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130225
/Antioch c
/should get credit for what you learn on tv
/unreal divide twix c and non. Also those who don’t get in, drop out, wrong major, wrong c, debt,
/I kept only geo text and hist texts
/no diversity in c for me and no problem later in ny
/search school college is not the real world is ivory tower, useless courses
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o pointless college courses students take
o why english class is useless
/keith: ….so tired of tiered admission policies that do not reflect the ability of an accepted student to be successful in a high-caliber university (like Principia).
/ Hence my interest in noted author Ray Bradbury’s saying he was ‘one of the few lucky enough not to go to college.’ (Famed Russian author Solzhenitsyn said his ‘education’ was being a prisoner in Siberia.)
/ You can always take make-up courses
/int test, as mentioned, and, over the years, periodically review your primary interests, as you will be happiest following them
/ effort by avoiding the wrong course of study, useless theory, and uninspired books and professors
/Save money by going to public or online colleges, if the courses count toward a degree.
/credit for the knowledge, insights, skills, and maturity you have gained from serious experiences and for what you have taught yourself. This would be a great leap forward. I wish I’d known of these.
/ Initially your degree won’t be worth as much as one from a prestigious college, but this approach has to be the most productive in the long run.
/ Students could be tested and given credit for achievements in outside activities that fit these categories. If this was done, more families would get their students into such activities. Everyone would gain – students, parents, and colleges.
/ College is full of holes and sometimes heartbreak. I hate to see young people misguided and signed up for gross inefficiency.
. – Writing papers on favorite subjects
/college myths, illusions, damage,
/I’d look at the back of guys’ heads and figure how I’d cut their hair
/stu rebellion in 60s wanted relevance.
Intro ———————— – – –
A college degree makes one extremely confident. It boosts a student with great amounts of skill, life experiences and a sense of power. But. how does a college differ from a school?
While being in school, we usually get to deal with people from the same neighborhood, background and ethnicities (in majority of the cases) as you are. But, when you enter a college, everything changes. You get to interact with students from all across the globe, from different cities, states and even countries. Thus, this kind of exposure helps us to become a more well rounded personality.
Also, students usually move out of their homes and shift to dorm rooms when they enter college. A lot of things get changed during this phase. When they perform each and every task on their own, they become self dependent.
The next reason is a no brainer. Obviously, your skill set gets improved considerably after having completed a college degree. Your market value in the job sector increases too. A college degree from a top – tier university opens doorways to lucrative jobs. Thus, ensuring a secured future.
Following are few links where you can find advice regarding the selection of the best colleges in the U.S. for yourself.
Cmc took French, big mistake. too much time decorating the gym? for a dance. Stan Kenton concert too big a deal. Not much to say about the foodball games or the girls at scripps or Pomona, where steve Jacobs was
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Sahs then coast guard then eur.
Cmc: Gung ho. Swam varsity, did well, times came down, then burnt out for 2? weeks. One guy, rick, was extremely flexible. Won all his races. Coach jess ……….took us on a hike up san gorgonio and had a barbeque for us. Said offhand that you can’t believe what you have to put up with as a coach. Nancy gray was the hi point of cmc. Folks met her. Lost touch later. I guess I didn’t have a car that year?
Sac: to jr. college the next yr. tom and hutch were there too. met kay and later set her and smit up on a blind date – June l5? 1960? Did I have a car?
Sjs: san jose the next yr. got into student gov.
Csf: later finished at cal st. Fullerton. I lived in a dorm of 16 guys. Had a ball and don’t know why. Began seeing Chela, frrom Peru – a winner. Graduated and got the break to chaperon a bus of afs students to NY. A month long party. Then 2 yrs in NY, 1 in n.m. 6 in ny, 3 in d.c. and home. The best were in ny. Sent to a number of people.
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/I wouldn’t want to teach at a c except to show what’s wrong with it.
/search how to avoid dumb classes
/net brot 0 similar to praxis
/ https://www.bing.com/search?q=worthless+college+courses&FORM=R5FD1
/ general studies
https://publications.umw.edu/undergraduatecatalog/courses-of-study/general-education/general-education-course-list/ you feel like some are making all this to keep profs employed, etc
/diploma mills
/lot of faculy must know what a farce it is – gal prof at sjs. Same with mil, rel, all
/waste of your parents’ $, taxpyers’ $, professors’ time, your time, ….
/supposed to be love story
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/annual costs 2/l9 from bruce:
/roi – roi return on investment
/c is a terrible strain on parents
/what luck I didn’t have a stu debt
/ general ed requirements : writing, math, natural sci like bio, [physical sci? like chem, physics], social sci like anthro, soc…, ethnic… arts and humanities [oh boy]: phil, …. Econ?
/what are the most popular classes? Ag typing?
/I’d hate to be part of a c , what about a hosp?
/I wouldn’t want to be affiliated with any c except to criticize em and all.
/seems like a screen to filter out the bright.
/what history forgot
/wartime crime
/steps: couldn’t get in, $, couldn’t handle it, drop out, complex, aa, can’t transfer credits?, no degree, debt, useless courses,
/alt: lambda. https://lambdaschool.com/
Univ or waterloo in Canada – dumb site – https://uwaterloo.ca/
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www.educationconnection.com – really bad so far
/search online ed
/average c senior owes 29k. 5/l9
/do c’s use wiki
/search: bitter about c, crushed by c, disappointed by c
/checklists?
/great univ….. vs tanks
/police academy vs the st
/honorary degree for mike Tyson – pic sent to several
/ outcome-based education
/ INFOGRAPHICS ! – https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=School+Food+Waste+Infographic&FORM=IDINTS
/ Stephen jay gould
/ stages: start with hi sch. can’t get into c, can’t afford it, in with loan, poor guidance, gen studies, [all this vs on line and vs alts to c,] bks, profs, classes, 2-1 study, vocab, eng, thinking, theory, diploma mills, useless courses, aa degree, lots but no ba, up against iq’s, grading in curve, fads, diversity, free speech vs ann coulter, c ed in calif is a biz: bldgs. With dumb names, coastline, saddleback’s lit, the trades,
/those who didn’t go or go far or had mixed results: tim butler, linda goode, laurel, robin, gary, don sidner, barkers, Kendrick, gill’s wife, sul?, jenk, hap, j, g, edna, phil, rj, hutch, Patterson, Sheila, Shirley hen…,
`/change title: half was useless
/calif system of higher ed is a big biz: coastline, dumb names of bldgs.,f list of courses I get
/the odyssey and the illiad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad
/never heard of priv…
/sc – good for biz; ucla – good for med
/’humanities’
/didn’t make some of my peers more ethical, just better at dodging facts
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/blks took over stu union bldg. at cornell. Mob threatening so guns smuggled? into them then, not before? Tons of cops arrived. They would leave, but only with their guns. [junk – didn’t need em then] thus big shocking pix. The admin was progressive; the faculty was cons. https://www.bing.com/search?q=black+takeover+cornell&FORM=AWRE
/tucker Carlson : diversity has hurt c
/alt-c – had 0 on net
/mike rowe, work ethic scholarships https://www.mikeroweworks.org/scholarship/
/dumb courses are unfair to wc
/ /what is a page?
/many posts need a comment box below them
/uc to drop sat and act tests. Ty ty 5/22/20
/ Typical of the ivory tower: super long self-serving titles. Tons of self-righteous rhetoric, self-ennobling , feel-good platitudinous boilerplate
/your ranking should be right along so all doesn’t have to depend on mid terms and finals
/sparta camp. Similar at cmc.
/stanbridge univ – https://www.stanbridge.edu/ is a
‘technical college’ ah ha
/seach – c as a racket – college is a racket – Bing
/ the paper chase with timothy bottoms. I just looked it up. hairy
/ c has to be far easier now with the net instead of the stacks. Wiki
/ c is a biz.
/ 10 Worst Paying College Majors (campuspal.org)
/search college curriculum
/profs with bad hair
/online degrees cheaper and faster
/online ed is here to stay 4/2l
/glad I didn’t go to any PRI sch
/linda lou’s hub got a degree. What for
/meetings to plan student union at sjs. One prof seemed like she thot [her being there>] it was a joke.
/bad neighborhood next to usc, yale, u of penn
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1 pub college – half waste of u, folks, taxpayer, scholarships. Contacts
2 priv collage – more waste. Probably better contacts
3 elite prif college – even more waste. Better contacts
Specialty schs like the trades, law, sw, art, journalism, ed, psych? and med are more practical
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/specialized hi schs
/waste some of the course were useless thus: bks, lectures, study, $ of rm and bd, parents, taxpayers, – very unfair to poor students, to students with limited ability, …..disabilities?
alternatives to college – Bing images
/pecuniary cannons of taste. Sinners in the hands of an angry god. The accolades stop at the edge of the campus
/ All thru college I heard about PARADISE LOST. I just read a summary on wiki. Nothing but comic book biblical SHIT. 10k words Paradise Lost – Wikipedia
/ode to a country churchyard
/principia
/sinners in the hands of an angry god, dante’ diving comedy, paradise lost
/famous historical books
/pecuniary cannons of taste
/ More California colleges remove SAT, ACT requirements during application process won’t click l0/2l
/college degrees are overrated nyt peter coy
/why give scholarships to kids that move away
/ UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests
The University of California adopts test-free admission after finding no unbiased alternative to the SAT.
/ Cal State poised to drop SAT admission requirement as chancellor supports scrapping test
Dec. 15, 2021 which I say could have predicted:
U.C. Berkeley Says It May Have to Cut Student Admissions by Thousands nyt 2 /l7/22
/ The Worst College for Your Money in Every State (moneywise.com)
/ cracks in the ivory tower – Bing cracks in the ivory tower: gen – ed courses are a waste? Get them out of way in hi sch with advance placement to save tons and grad yr to l.5 yrs early. C’s attract tons to reject to make them look more exclusive. Terrible as it wastes tons of $ and time. Something about tenure [is anti-free market]. This was on freedom fest freedom fest – Bing. Lot wrong with rankings by us news and world report
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/ How many college students have their hearts broken by their grades – Bing
/ gen ed at college – Search (bing.com)
/ tell me more kelly corrigan – Bing video scott Galloway said higher ed is a big cartel. Wow
/ useless general education req – Search (bing.com)
/ list of gen ed courses – Search (bing.com)
/titan hall – 2 story craftsman house – Bing images
/ imposters in the temple – Search (bing.com)
/ programs like praxis – Search (bing.com)
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/at scripps there was a looker – shirley ….. I was narrowminded then, case you didn’t notice, and had some talk with her. she told art bircher who some time later came over with another guy to have a big talk with me. I don’t remember any details. The rest of the year he looked down on me.
/revolt of the college educated working class
/cmc camp, sparta camp,
/huge effort to decorate for a dance at cmc
/search those that can’t, teach – those that can’t, teach – Search (bing.com)
/ the college scam by john stossel – Search (bing.com)
/the college scam by chas kirk – charlie kirk the college scam book – Search (bing.com)
/
Elite Universities Are Out of Touch. Blame the Campus.
/I used to love learning ir, hist, pol….in c. in the stacks, at hm, in lectures
/had to take a yr out of c
/just think of how folks sacrifice for this kids in c. mil, +
/college sports
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/an aa must be mostly gen ed
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As the student debt relief debate goes on, the rich are getting college subsidies.
/morning becomes media, Agamemnon, euthidicies, shakespear, iamic pentameder,
/ economic benefits of slavery – Search (bing.com) [and the shallows wouldn’t care]
/wendy glen [dorm] at sjs
/ effect of being rejected by college fraternity – Search (bing.com)
/ 3/l0/23 la: Jaded about education, more Americans are skipping college
/l00k for a ba – public c. l70 – pri
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College Sports Are a Treasure. Don’t Turn Them Into the Minor Leagues.
/what about other countries?
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Crunching the puny financial benefits of many university courses / ‘gened’ is a waste – Search (bing.com) / dead poets society – Bing images / cmc: decorating the gym, football game[s], sending daryl to Hawaii?, fires in trash, spring sing, stan Kenton concert, / shortcuts to getting into medical school – Search (bing.com) / do you need 4 years of college to get into medical school – Search (bing.com) |
/ shortcuts to getting into law school – Search (bing.com)
/ I took gre, law sch ap… test, fse, fsee
/ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/25/opinion/college-students-monks-mental-health-smart-phones.html
/ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/25/opinion/college-students-monks-mental-health-smart-phones.html
/it’s so wonderful. Vs little mention of the waste, hearbreak, wrong majors, cost, debt, those failing the cre, fsee, law sch, med sch
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New Grads Have No Idea How to Behave in the Office. Help Is on the Way. – WSJ
/ California’s highest-earning college majors may surprise you – Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
/ 7/23 – The Republican war on colleges (msn.com)
/should teach hopeless causes
/pt out the heartbreak, including failing the fsee, law sch ap… gre,
/the more I look back, the more I see the misery of half of college. What a joke. it’s like a screening process. Think of those who have 3 yrs. [and work in a pizza place]
/ Politicians are trying to undercut colleges. Despite the consequences, we must speak up. (msn.com)
/ The Number One Cause of College Unhappiness | Psychology Today
How many drop out. don’t finish, don’t pass tests after c like ….
/ those than can, do; those that can’t, teach – Search (bing.com) – never heard it till yrs after c.
/where does this belong: you can’t teach stupid meaning – Search (bing.com)
/because the stakes are so small
Bill Maher Has One Piece of Advice for America’s Youth: ‘Don’t Go to College’ (msn.com)
/ the higher education octopus – Search (bing.com)
/ dei = diversity, equity, inclusion – dei meaning diversity – Search (bing.com)
Diversity, equity, and inclusion – Wikipedia
/ Employers Are Fed Up With College ‘Waste’ — Here’s Who They’re Hiring Instead (msn.com)
/ Alternatives to a 4-Year College: What to Know (msn.com)
/ l2/23 – terrible writing: skip it. The Worst Schools in the U.S: You’ve Been Warned (daily-choices.com)
/ which education is the most practical – Search (bing.com)
/ bill maher on education – Search (bing.com)
/chapman, cmc, sac, lb, sjs, csf. City c of ny, barnard Baruch, new sch
/why gen ed classes are a waste of time – Search (bing.com)
/love story – the whole point of c
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/ 30 Colleges That Leave Grads Struggling to Earn $35,000 (msn.com)
/ America’s elite universities are bloated, complacent and illiberal (economist.com)
/ A new book rebukes the “luxury beliefs” of America’s upper class (economist.com)
/ A third of Asian Americans who live in poverty have college degrees. What’s going on? (msn.com)
/ Smashing the paper ceiling: Why employers are dropping college degree requirements (msn.com)
/ colleges reinstate tests – Search (bing.com)
/ Opinion | Biden, Let the Protests of 1968 Be a Warning – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
/ The Most Beautiful College Campuses in the World (msn.com)
/no ba for some med and law schools
/ Gen-Z Graduates Face the Harsh Reality of Worthless Degrees (msn.com) and more on: Microsoft Start (msn.com)
/ which phd graduate schools do not require a b.a. – Search (bing.com) they said no gre or gmat nec
/ which phd programs do not require a gre?
/ US Colleges are closing at an alarming rate: List of public and private school closures (msn.com)
/ Opinion | Colleges Can’t Say They Weren’t Warned – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
/ whole fam worked at getting 3 boys thru c. look at the results. Same w hutch, phil, tj,
/ What Does College Football Have to Do With College? – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
/ how many students get their hearts broken in college – Search academically
/ To Dial Down Campus Tensions, Colleges Teach the Art of Conversation – The New York Times l2/24 re is….
/ latin, music, language, art, speech?
/ 
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Nearly half of families no longer see college as a good investment: Author
/ Columbia University says it has suspended and expelled students who participated in protests
/ Computer Science Grads Struggle to Find Jobs in the A.I. Age – The New York Times
